Help to Identify this snake

[finewine]

Found just outside our house in Rayong. Enjoying a tasty frog snack.

 

Is it a venomous snake? 

 

Hope someone can help - about 20 inches long

[Sheryl]

I think it is an Oriental rat snake (they eat frogs too). Common and non-venomous.

https://www.thailandsnakes.com/non-venomous/oriental-rat-snake-non-venomous-not-dangerous/

 

Moving this to the plants and pets forum for opinions from others as that is where the snake wallahs on TV hang out

[Flustered]

Looks more like a Oligodon purpurascens (Brown Kukri Snake) to me. However, all snakes should be considered venomous and not handled. 20" is still long enough to put me off.

Did it have fries with the frog?

Edited February 2, 2017 by Flustered

[Flustered]

2 hours ago, Arjen said:

20Inch? That is not a SI unit? How long is this in meters?

 

20 inches is what we call "real money" and is 50.8 cms. It's an imperial measurement and measure/weight is about the only thing us old Brits are fluent in several languages in.

[meatboy]

we had one of the same last week ?

20" is what JOHN HOLMS HAD,

[Muzarella]

Looks like a tree snake....Just let them alone.

[Old Croc]

9 hours ago, Flustered said:

20 inches is what we call "real money" and is 50.8 cms. It's an imperial measurement and measure/weight is about the only thing us old Brits are fluent in several languages in.

I thought the UK had converted to metric. Only Liberia, Myanmar and the United States of America still use the  antiquated Imperial system.

(I have to admit I do have some old mates in Australia who still talk in miles and gallons and will never change) 

 

 

I agree with your snake assessment.

[steven100]

It's a cobra. 

 

 

[Laza 45]

23 minutes ago, steven100 said:

It's a cobra. 

 

 

Haha!..have another beer...  

[finewine]

Thanks for the replies. From other snake pictures and requests I had thought it was probably either a kukri or oriental rat snake. The kukri sounds a bit more dangerous, but at least this one will be resting for a week. Amazing how quickly it swallowed the frog - less than 5 minutes.  Will our dog be safe, as she attacks and kills small animals?

[TKDfella]

Is the same as this one?

[Old Croc]

7 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

Is the same as this one?

No. Golden Tree Snake.

[ujayujay]

Ratsnake. Not venomenous.

[masuk]

14 hours ago, Arjen said:

20Inch? That is not a SI unit? How long is this in meters?

 

water meter or speedometer?  SI clearly sets out that measurements are METRES.

 

ASEAN countries are allegedly metric, following SI.   not an import from overseas who still use ye olde miles, lb, feet,, etc

[catman20]

6 hours ago, meatboy said:

we had one of the same last week ?

20" is what JOHN HOLMS HAD,

and look where it got him 

[TKDfella]

3 hours ago, Old Croc said:

No. Golden Tree Snake.

Thank you

[masuk]

Golden tree snake

[wpcoe]

Looks like it's going to thread itself into a knot?  

[F4UCorsair]

18 hours ago, Arjen said:

20Inch? That is not a SI unit? How long is this in meters?

 

Half a metre.......roughly. 1  metre = 39.37 Inches, so just over half a metre.  English spelling pf 'metre'.

[F4UCorsair]

6 hours ago, Old Croc said:

I thought the UK had converted to metric. Only Liberia, Myanmar and the United States of America still use the  antiquated Imperial system.

(I have to admit I do have some old mates in Australia who still talk in miles and gallons and will never change) 

 

 

I agree with your snake assessment.

But Is that US Gallons or Imperial Gallons?   For reference, 44 Imp Gals = 55 US Gals or 200 litres.

 

Edited February 3, 2017 by F4UCorsair

[Flustered]

3 hours ago, masuk said:

water meter or speedometer?  SI clearly sets out that measurements are METRES.

 

ASEAN countries are allegedly metric, following SI.   not an import from overseas who still use ye olde miles, lb, feet,, etc

If anyone wonders how Imperial measurement, weights and the old English Pounds, Shillings and Pence came from, it is fascinating.

 

It takes ages to study it but they are all based on creating a sensible measurement/weight system instead of confusing one. The money system was a mathematical bit of genius (something the Romans did for us). The Metric system is actually very sensible and simple  considering it was invented by a Frenchman.

 

The snake however is another question........?

[Sheryl]

9 hours ago, finewine said:

Thanks for the replies. From other snake pictures and requests I had thought it was probably either a kukri or oriental rat snake. The kukri sounds a bit more dangerous, but at least this one will be resting for a week. Amazing how quickly it swallowed the frog - less than 5 minutes.  Will our dog be safe, as she attacks and kills small animals?

 

How small is your dog?

 

Unless it is a teacup sized pet I don't think you have anything to worry about from this specific snake, it doesn't hunt or eat anything much larger than a frog or rat.

 

But if your dog is in the habit of chasing/catching snakes, I would worry about that as sooner or later she may encounter a venomous one.

[MyFriend You]

10 hours ago, ujayujay said:

Ratsnake. Not venomenous.

No don't tell him that - tell him all snakes in Thailand are poisonous so leave them all alone........

[sugarcane24]

It's one of the kukri snakes. Pattern matches very well.

 

Vern L.

 

ThailandSnakes.com

[sugarcane24]

On 2/02/2017 at 11:14 PM, Flustered said:

Looks more like a Oligodon purpurascens (Brown Kukri Snake) to me. However, all snakes should be considered venomous and not handled. 20" is still long enough to put me off.

Did it have fries with the frog?

According to Vern from ThailandSnakes.com it is indeed a kukri snake.

[Naamblar2014]

Kukri for sure.  Not venomous but relations of mine often mistake it as a viper (venomous ) and unfortunately want to kill it.