Iran vows "roaring missiles" if threatened, defies new sanctions

[surangw]

who is selling them the missiles ?

[rijb]

Iran is threatening to fire 'untested' missiles?  Let them.

[Naam]

15 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

The  Islamic government of Iran violated the terms of a weapons deal in 1979 and kidnapped the staff of the American Embassy in Tehran. That is when the Iranian funds were frozen. We kept that money for almost 40 years and we could have continued to do so until when and if there was a court  decision otherwise. We certainly did not have to pay them when we did.

your "facts" are getting more and more ridiculous. there was no weapons deal in 1979 that was violated! after meddling* (including overthrowing a government) in Iranian affairs for nearly 30 years the immediate cause of the hostage taking was the U.S. refusal to extradite its puppy the Shah to stand trial in Iran.

 

meddling* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état

 

[Andaman Al]

6 minutes ago, Naam said:

your "facts" are getting more and more ridiculous. there was no weapons deal in 1979 that was violated! after meddling* (including overthrowing a government) in Iranian affairs for nearly 30 years the immediate cause of the hostage taking was the U.S. refusal to extradite its puppy the Shah to stand trial in Iran.

 

meddling* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état

 

Naam, alternative facts and fake news is OK for Republicans. It is the new bar, their new standard. 10 notch's up the ladder from political spin.

[Naam]

2 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

Naam, alternative facts and fake news is OK for Republicans. It is the new bar, their new standard. 10 notch's up the ladder from political spin.

unfortunately some people are not ashamed to post pure refined rubbish and that continously over years

[beechguy]

On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 10:50 AM, Credo said:

Trump thinks it's a good idea to get along with Russia because we've done some very bad things.   Obama thought it was a good idea to get along with Iran so they wouldn't build a nuclear weapon.   

 

And only a moron would believe, they won't buy or build one anyway

[rijb]

25 minutes ago, Naam said:

unfortunately some people are not ashamed to post pure refined rubbish and that continously over years

You two arrogant know-it-alls don't know what you're talking about.  I was working there in 1979.  The Shah didn't have to leave.  Carter's interference opened the door for Khomeini.

 

Carter was too stupid to understand how evil Khomeini was.  A lot of our Iranian friends were killed by that bastard.  

 

The Americans were not held hostage for some higher purpose.  They were Khomeini's revenge.  

 

The US should have given that money to the hostages and their families.

 

The Iranian leaders can't be trusted.  A nuclear deal with them was bound to fail.

Edited February 8, 2017 by rijb

[ilostmypassword]

8 minutes ago, rijb said:

You two arrogant know-it-alls don't know what you're talking about.  I was working there in 1979.  The Shah didn't have to leave.  Carter's interference opened the door for Khomeini.

 

Carter was too stupid to understand how evil Khomeini was.  A lot of our Iranian friends were killed by that bastard.  

 

The Americans were not held hostage for some higher purpose.  They were Khomeini's revenge.  

 

The US should have given that money to the hostages and their families.

You seem to forget that it was the US and the UK who plotted to overthrow the legitimate government of Iran and install that farcical creature the self-styled Shah of Iran. And that led to Khomeini.

Edited February 8, 2017 by ilostmypassword

[rijb]

1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said:

You seem to forget that it was the US and the UK who overthrew the legitimate government of Iran and installed that farcical creature the self-styled Shah of Iran. And that led to Khomeini.

I don't care about domino theories.  The threat about roaring missiles is real.  We should beat them to it.

[Ulysses G.]

2 hours ago, Naam said:

your "facts" are getting more and more ridiculous. there was no weapons deal in 1979 that was violated! 

 

Nonsense as usual. The weapons were sold to the Shah and Komeni violated the terms of the sale by breaching contractual obligations to maintain the security of classified security information provided under the terms of the FMSP. That is why the US kept much of the money.

Please do stop making false accusations about issues that you obviously know very little about.

Edited February 8, 2017 by Ulysses G.

[stevenl]

The  Islamic government of Iran violated the terms of a weapons deal in 1979 and kidnapped the staff of the American Embassy in Tehran. That is when the Iranian funds were frozen. We kept that money for almost 40 years and we could have continued to do so until when and if there was a court  decision otherwise. We certainly did not have to pay them when we did.

Pay them? It was their money.

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[Ulysses G.]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Pay them? It was their money.
 

As already pointed out, that was under dispute.

[stevenl]

As already pointed out, that was under dispute.

Another alternate fact.

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[boomerangutang]

On 2/7/2017 at 8:30 AM, Ulysses G. said:

Nope. They just reported the Obama administration's spin. Read further. Marco Rubio was a lot more accurate about the "deal": “President Obama’s disastrous nuclear deal with Iran was sweetened with an illicit ransom payment and billions of dollars for the world’s foremost state sponsor of terrorism.”

Obama was returning Iran's money to Iran. That's hard for Trump and his fans to understand, because Trump has made it ok (in their minds) to not pay as promised. Trump has built his decades-long career on avoiding payments-due and avoiding taxes.
 

9 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

The  Islamic government of Iran violated the terms of a weapons deal in 1979 and kidnapped the staff of the American Embassy in Tehran. That is when the Iranian funds were frozen. We kept that money for almost 40 years and we could have continued to do so until when and if there was a court  decision otherwise. We certainly did not have to pay them when we did.

The US withheld money due (to Iran) for political reasons.  That was probably justified.  But it was still Iran's money.  So, when making a deal for lessening Iran's Nuke program, Iran's money was released to Iran.  Yet more proof, if any were needed, that Obama's people are much better deal-makers than Trump.  

 

        It's doubtful Trump ever even read 'Art of the Deal' as it was completely written by another man, and Trump doesn't like to read.  Trump admitted recently, he hadn't read an edict he signed, which mistakenly (according to Trump) put Bannon as top Security Advisor for the USA.  ....or maybe Trump read it, but didn't understand it.  Either one is in-line with Trump's dufus character.

 

8 hours ago, beechguy said:

And only a moron would believe, they won't buy or build one anyway

          Iran's leaders want to be a nuclear power.  Who can blame them?   They had enemies before, and now they've got the US Dufus in Chief breathing down their necks.  If Trump had a modicum of sense, he would do what Gore and many other intelligent people have been trying to do for decades: lessen nuclear arms worldwide, until they no longer exist.  It happened for smallpox and mustard gas, ....it can possibly happen for nukes - but not as long as Bannon and Trump are in power.

 

 

Edited February 9, 2017 by boomerangutang

[Scott]

I believe this topic is about firing missiles.   Stay on topic.