Violence in South continues

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Violence in South continues

 

 

YALA: -- Fires broke out simultaneously last night at a construction site and a para wood factory in Yala province, causing heavy damages to both places.

 

The two fires were initially believed to be the work of southern insurgents as security authorities found hundreds of caltrops scattered on the roads to the two places to stop and impede vehicles.

 

At the fire inside the construction site of Shinavorn Construction Co in Muang district, seven vehicles which included a tractor, a backhoe and pickup trucks were burnt.

 

Meanwhile at almost the same time in Bannang Star district, fire also broke out at a para wood factory.

 

After being alerted of the fire, water trucks and rescue team immediately rushed to the scene but they were impeded by caltrops scattered along the way on Highway 410 to the factory.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/violence-south-continues-2/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-02-16

[ELVIS123456]

Thats funny - all the other news stories today have been responded to by all the Expat/Whingers (the usuals) with all their criticism and abuse of the Thai 'system' and its people - but nothing negative about this story. Interesting. 

 

OK. I will say something. This 'story' shows how fanatical muslims must be kept out of all western civilisations (or those trying to be). Everywhere they go Muslims take over (eg here it is Malaysia and Indonesia) through any and all means, and only then do they 'settle' down. Then they move onto the next country/society. Reminds me of something else .......  You?

 

 

[Bluespunk]

Wow, a conflict based around independence/autonomy from an occupying power continues, despite there being no significant attempts to bring about a peaceful solution. 

 

Shocker. 

[Bluespunk]

7 minutes ago, ELVIS123456 said:

Thats funny - all the other news stories today have been responded to by all the Expat/Whingers (the usuals) with all their criticism and abuse of the Thai 'system' and its people - but nothing negative about this story. Interesting. 

 

OK. I will say something. This 'story' shows how fanatical muslims must be kept out of all western civilisations (or those trying to be). Everywhere they go Muslims take over (eg here it is Malaysia and Indonesia) through any and all means, and only then do they 'settle' down. Then they move onto the next country/society. Reminds me of something else .......  You?

 

 

You do realise that the current regions involved in this conflict were an independent kingdom before they were occupied don't you?

 

You know they had their own cultural, social and religious practices going back centuries before their absorption by this foreign power?

 

I only ask as you seem to be assuming Islam is the invading faith in this region. 

[ELVIS123456]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

You do realise that the current regions involved in this conflict were an independent kingdom before they were occupied don't you?

 

You know they had their own cultural, social and religious practices going back centuries before their absorption by this foreign power?

 

I only ask as you seem to be assuming Islam is the invading faith in this region. 

Oh - there you are :) - morning.

 

So let me get this right - you imply Islam is the 'natural' society of Malaysia and Indonesia??  Because they started coming hundreds of years ago and therefore they are the 'natural' social and religious 'practice' of the people in Malaysia and Indonesia??

Well - clearly sir you understanding of the world stopped in the 12th century - when Islam was at its height - before being driven out of most of Europe.

 

Oh - but maybe you are saying that the Siam/Thai 'invasion' is a special case that deserves violent 'correction' - unlike all the other conquering and nation building that has taken place in SEAsia for centuries and centuries.

 

Tell me - who/what makes you think drawing a line in the sands of history can make all things before the line OK and things after it not OK??

 

Actually - dont bother.  Enjoy the cornflakes.

 

[Bluespunk]

12 minutes ago, ELVIS123456 said:

Oh - there you are :) - morning.

 

So let me get this right - you imply Islam is the 'natural' society of Malaysia and Indonesia??  Because they started coming hundreds of years ago and therefore they are the 'natural' social and religious 'practice' of the people in Malaysia and Indonesia??

Well - clearly sir you understanding of the world stopped in the 12th century - when Islam was at its height - before being driven out of most of Europe.

 

Oh - but maybe you are saying that the Siam/Thai 'invasion' is a special case that deserves violent 'correction' - unlike all the other conquering and nation building that has taken place in SEAsia for centuries and centuries.

 

Tell me - who/what makes you think drawing a line in the sands of history can make all things before the line OK and things after it not OK??

 

Actually - dont bother.  Enjoy the cornflakes.

 

The majority of the people of the region involved  in the ongoing conflict are Muslim and have been so for centuries.

 

They were Muslim before their country was invaded and incorporated into a foreign state. 

 

They have the right to follow the majority faith of the region.

 

And reject that of the occupying power.

 

Though I should point out I have no sympathy for the violence being perpetrated by both sides in the current conflict.

Edited February 16, 2017 by Bluespunk

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, ELVIS123456 said:

must be kept out of all western civilisations

Thankfully, Islam Occupied part of Europe to help it survive The Dark Ages by providing a "golden age" of creativity and toleration versus Western intolerance for science and anything faith not Christian-based.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_world_contributions_to_Medieval_Europe

 

[Srikcir]

Jan. 31, 2017:

"Junta chairman Prayuth Chan-ocha told reporters Tuesday he has seen progress in an ongoing peace dialogue with separatists in the Deep South following the death of their “spiritual leader” last month."

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2017/02/01/prayuth-upbeat-peace-talks-insurgent-leaders-death/

 

The spiritual leader provided a calming for insurrection violence. Now gone the military leaders will take more offensive actions, especially with the complete abandonment of the Thai military for peace talks.

 

[14Stevie]

1 hour ago, Srikcir said:

Thankfully, Islam Occupied part of Europe to help it survive The Dark Ages by providing a "golden age" of creativity and toleration versus Western intolerance for science and anything faith not Christian-based.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_world_contributions_to_Medieval_Europe

 

And now the situation is reversed with intolerant radical islamists wanting to maim, kill and destroy anything that is Christian - or indeed anything that they perceive as an affront to their radical interpretation of islam as witnessed in the destruction of Iraqi and Syrian cultural heritage sites.

 

[JimboJ]

 

19 hours ago, Srikcir said:

Thankfully, Islam Occupied part of Europe to help it survive The Dark Ages by providing a "golden age" of creativity and toleration versus Western intolerance for science and anything faith not Christian-based.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_world_contributions_to_Medieval_Europe

 

The link above is mainly about transmissions from Greece and China.  There is a link to Muslim inventions, the most notable of which are improvements to ceramic techniques and coffee. So we have Islam to thank for Sarbucks.

 

Another view of the Dark Ages is that they were prolonged by the military pressure of Islam, especially piracy and slave trading around the previously civilized Mediterranean.

 

All the comments above ignore the fact that the southern provinces are Malay speaking.  Who would want to learn Thai if they could avoid it?

[ELVIS123456]

On 2/16/2017 at 1:51 PM, Bluespunk said:

The majority of the people of the region involved  in the ongoing conflict are Muslim and have been so for centuries.

 

They were Muslim before their country was invaded and incorporated into a foreign state. 

 

They have the right to follow the majority faith of the region.

 

And reject that of the occupying power.

 

Though I should point out I have no sympathy for the violence being perpetrated by both sides in the current conflict.

We agree about the violence - no sympathy either.

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, ELVIS123456 said:

We agree about the violence - no sympathy either.

Yes. 

 

Both sides are responsible for horrific acts of terror. 

 

Violence has failed and both both need to start meaningful peace talks. 

 

It's the only way forward. 

Edited February 18, 2017 by Bluespunk

[Srikcir]

25 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

It's the only way forward. 

As long as the military leads peace negotiations (unlike when it was excluded by Yingluck), there is no way forward.

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, Srikcir said:

As long as the military leads peace negotiations (unlike when it was excluded by Yingluck), there is no way forward.

I honestly don't care who leads it as long as a deal is reached that both sides can accept.