webfact Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Video: last tragic moments of European expat on big bike Picture: Sanook BANGKOK: -- Dash cam footage has emerged of the last tragic moments of the European man on a big bike killed near Suvarnabhumi airport. Christian Melzer died when he collided with the side rail of an overpass on the King Kaew Road leading in the direction of the airport, Sanook reported. The clip was uploaded to Facebook by 'Ashf Up' who said that the accident occurred on Friday at 3.30pm (this was not the same as that recorded on the actual footage because the device was faulty). The poster said that all they were able to do was call the authorities to the scene. Both Lat Krabang and Bang Kaew police attended with Por Teck Tung foundation medics. Sanook.com said that the man - whose nationality was not known - had multiple bone fractures and injuries though he was still wearing his helmet when he was found. His bike continued rider-less for some way along the overpass before toppling over. It was a Yamaha 1200 cc registered in Mahasarakham. The foreigner who was killed had earlier made online appeals for help because of a medical condition. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-02-27 WARNING: The video contains graphic content that viewers may find disturbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang1979 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said: Where's that: "You unsympathetic as$&ole " button when you need it ! Sent from my iPhone with the usual amount of sincerity and sarcasm Unfortunately humanity or compassion is often absent in the cesspit that some TV expats belong in. Instead it's replaced by a haughty, "i'd never find myself in this position" demeanour which is manifested in comment that is cowardly tapped into the keyboard and posted before crawling off to the next post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanInBKK Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Quite a sad and unfortunate event. At least the dashcam footage has surfaced putting to rest spurious talk about how the accident happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I am still shaking after seeing that, at least i lived after my accident. Please folks stop the clever comments.... not very nice... Show a little respect. R.I.P. sad and tragic way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I had a car accident several years ago in the rain at speed and I bounced off the central barriers a few times before dragging the car to the hard shoulder, a write-off. Shaken, but unscathed. You have a chance in a car, but a motorbike is unforgiving. I can't work out how this happened, did he swerve to avoid something before hitting the barrier? RIP Herr Melzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Incredibly sad and knocks all the conspiracy theories into a cocked hat! RIP to the poor bloke and condolences to his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 doesnt anyone think there is a bit more to it, you dont just fall of a bike going straight or minor bend he was already half off the bike as he went past that car and looked like he was already unconscious . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 46 minutes ago, AlexRich said: I had a car accident several years ago in the rain at speed and I bounced off the central barriers a few times before dragging the car to the hard shoulder, a write-off. Shaken, but unscathed. You have a chance in a car, but a motorbike is unforgiving. I can't work out how this happened, did he swerve to avoid something before hitting the barrier? RIP Herr Melzer. I would understand an accident. But drunk driving and driving with a medical condition, or on medications that impairs your driving ability is a deliberate choice, and not an accident. It is fortunate that he was on a bike and not driving a car, and up on an elevated highway that no other parties became a victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 RIP Mr Melzer. Once the tire of his bike touched the foot of the wall, it was game over in terms of control. Dave66: the footage doesn't cover the initial hit to the wall so one can't really know what happened but to me it seems likely that his front tire touched the wall and then the bike made some sudden strong movements and threw him off. I don't think it would be easy holding on to the handlebars under these conditions and the forces pushing him outward are enough in even such a relatively slight bend. Also his left leg surely touched the wall which causes quite some pain I'm sure and also puts force on his body to move over left. BTW again (like nearly always) the bike identification is completely wrong. It's not 1200cc and not even a Yamaha. It looks like a 400cc Honda CB400, about 20 years old. Not sure why they are obsessed with reporting cc numbers and brand names and then get it in so many cases wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docphil Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I love how people think 250cc is "big" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Bad outcomes happen all the time... he probably wasn't in the best frame of mind nor health considering his FB rant... life is unfair....Deal with it..some can some can't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The womans shrieking disturbed me even more….I can only assume this guy had passed out/dozed off before clipping that side wall. Crazy way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, eisfeld said: RIP Mr Melzer. Once the tire of his bike touched the foot of the wall, it was game over in terms of control. Dave66: the footage doesn't cover the initial hit to the wall so one can't really know what happened but to me it seems likely that his front tire touched the wall and then the bike made some sudden strong movements and threw him off. I don't think it would be easy holding on to the handlebars under these conditions and the forces pushing him outward are enough in even such a relatively slight bend. Also his left leg surely touched the wall which causes quite some pain I'm sure and also puts force on his body to move over left. BTW again (like nearly always) the bike identification is completely wrong. It's not 1200cc and not even a Yamaha. It looks like a 400cc Honda CB400, about 20 years old. Not sure why they are obsessed with reporting cc numbers and brand names and then get it in so many cases wrong. So you are the expert now? It was in fact a Yamaha XJR 1200. I knew the guy and I knew the bike. Edited February 27, 2017 by Sheryl civility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar God Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I didn't think bikes were allowed on elevated roadways in Thailand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccastime Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 10/3/2015??maybe the date on the cam is wrong.but so sad for this lad to die in this way.does look like a deliberate accident though.r.i.p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebluewater Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Take a look at the pavement that the first rider is avoiding and watch the front wheel of the dead guys motorcycle as it hits a good sized fault in the road. I think there may have been a loss of control due to it and got him off the bike, up on the railing, and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladada Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Wow. That is horrific. On first view it would seem to me that he already lost control before he came into the viewpoint of this dashcam. But like blueblue says you can see the road fault the first guy avoids, shouldnt be too hard for some onsite RTA investigators to figure this out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I just could nt figure out how this happened? Fell asleep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Some offensive posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpaul1 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Why are so many people so insensitive? The appeal that I heard about on the facebook page for expat bikers was for advice on a good hospital and treatment ans far as I know, not specifically for money. Come on, loads of people ask similar things on this forum. It is not clear at all if this had anything to do with the accident. Like others have mentioned, he looks unconscious prior to being on cam and maybe he passed out or maybe not. It's an overpass not an elevated road so motorcycles are allowed there. So many smug heartless posters on TV. So many with some sort of chip on their shoulder or complex because of other people choosing to ride motorcycles and have a lifestyle they don't choose or cant' have for whatever reason (age, demanding wife, lack of balls etc). I'm referring to not just this but many threads where they attack all motorcyclists as reckless and dangerous. I can just imagine them spitting vinegar and p**S every time a motorcycle overtakes them in traffic etc. If you want to use the argument that motorcycles are dangerous then it is true of cars too and nobody should drive and we should all stick to bicycles and walking. RIP Christian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabula Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Possible suicide to cover up intent? Previous cry for help? RIP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Reports in other source say that he got a recommendation for a hospital and probably on the way to that. I am not a motorbike expert and this is the best picture I could find so far: (the report with the picture also writes 1200 cc) Click on pictures so see best size: Edited February 27, 2017 by KhunBENQ first pic replaced with better one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaijoe Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 WHERE are these videos? I cant view any of them, dont even show where to click just a picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Anyway this case is another drastic warning: either have the money for treatment (no less than a million) or have insurance. And his case: he was fighting for 6 months with this problem! Did he not even have the money for a low cost oneway to Germany where he would have been treated without any question. (in his case a viable option which is not available to accident victims or the like) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpaul1 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kabula said: Possible suicide to cover up intent? Previous cry for help? RIP... Ok , here goes, just for the record. In case I should die in a motorcycle accident or any other accident etc, I won't keep you guys guessing. I will make it easy for you and will tell you guys before that I will commit suicide. If I haven't told you beforehand then just presume it was an accident ok, no need to presume this. It truly is pathetic how so many unfortunate deaths are twisted around and discussed in such a way. Truly pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, farang1979 said: Unfortunately humanity or compassion is often absent in the cesspit that some TV expats belong in. Instead it's replaced by a haughty, "i'd never find myself in this position" demeanour which is manifested in comment that is cowardly tapped into the keyboard and posted before crawling off to the next post. God Bless you Sir.............Fortunately I listen to my home "phone in" Radio Show daily and hear many wonderful stories of man's GENEROSITY to their fellow man....and (for a short time anyway) it restores my faith in the fact that there are many generous lovely people out there with hearts full of compassion and love for their fellow man. A man once said to me on this very subject......".but Pattaya doesn't attract many of that kind"....Sad...but bordering on the truth. Edited February 27, 2017 by dotpoom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, thaijoe said: WHERE are these videos? I cant view any of them, dont even show where to click just a picture The video link at the bottom of the opening post does not work? For me it does. Try this link only to Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ShisuTheDog/videos/10155100409084851/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenoilif Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, KhunBENQ said: Anyway this case is another drastic warning: either have the money for treatment (no less than a million) or have insurance. And his case: he was fighting for 6 months with this problem! Did he not even have the money for a low cost oneway to Germany where he would have been treated without any question. (in his case a viable option which is not available to accident victims or the like) I think this is another case of someone having their priorities in the wrong order. Too many times you hear of stories of foreigners ending up destitute, extremely sick, or dead because they put selfish wants ahead of their own health and once the situation becomes life threatening they end up begging people for help. Fortunately for them, Thais are extremely empathetic people and they usually will get a few rounds of charity but even the locals can spot a free-loader. Pitiful is probably the best description for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabula Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, tpaul1 said: Ok , here goes, just for the record. In case I should die in a motorcycle accident or any other accident etc, I won't keep you guys guessing. I will make it easy for you and will tell you guys before that I will commit suicide. If I haven't told you beforehand then just presume it was an accident ok, no need to presume this. It truly is pathetic how so many unfortunate deaths are twisted around and discussed in such a way. Truly pathetic! I guess you didn't see the question marks! Having owned a Private Investigation Agency and a Insurance Adjustment Co for 30 years qualifies me as an expert witness in Superior Court. I specialized in Product Liability investigations for Honda, and Yamaha for 11 years. We were recommended by the AM best Company for 11 years doing work for over 300 Insurance companies. Most of those product investigations were multi million dollar cases. What I saw in that video leaves me with questions? Especially with a prior cry for help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 A couple of obvious nonsense posts and replies to them removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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