Chiang Mai MP’s ‘unusual wealth’ to be seized: court

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Chiang Mai MP’s ‘unusual wealth’ to be seized: court

By The Nation

 

The Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office Holders on Thursday ruled to seize assets of former Chiang Mai MP Kasem Nimmonrat, who was allegedly close to Pheu Thai Party executives while he served as the provincial administration’s adviser, because of his unusual wealth.

 

Assets including company shares, land deeds and other sources of wealth worth about Bt186.6 million in total.

 

The National Anti-Corruption Commission had already resolved that the former MP could not explain or demonstrate how he had acquired the assets. The commission brought accusations against him, which forwarded the case to the courts and ended in its conclusion Thusday.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/breakingnews/30309318

 

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[Cuchulainn]

.........  Chiang Mai MP Kasem Nimmonrat, who was allegedly close to Pheu Thai Party executives  ........

 

Well blow me down with a feather.  

 

(Cue Eric to defend his bedroom pin-ups).

[colinneil]

Maybe he got his wealth by saving all his small change    

[trogers]

Move over Benz Racing...?

[AhFarangJa]

Wot....no rich wife / sister in law ???????....

 

[OneZero]

Is Nimmanhaemom Road named after some distant relative?

 

[andersonat]

I can imagine that if the The National Anti-Corruption Commission looked into the affairs of the very rich people in Thailand, they would find that a significant fraction of Team Rich could also not be able to explain or demonstrate how they had [legally] acquired their assets.

 

Edited March 17, 2017 by andersonat

[Lupatria]

1 hour ago, andersonat said:

I can imagine that if the The National Anti-Corruption Commission looked into the affairs of the very rich people in Thailand, they would find that a significant fraction of Team Rich could also not be able to explain or demonstrate how they had [legally] acquired their assets.

 

Isn't your imagination quite a bit uniform (typo?)

[sanukjim]

17 hours ago, colinneil said:

Maybe he got his wealth by saving all his small change    

Yea,$5,300,000.on a medium salary.

[elgordo38]

4 hours ago, andersonat said:

I can imagine that if the The National Anti-Corruption Commission looked into the affairs of the very rich people in Thailand, they would find that a significant fraction of Team Rich could also not be able to explain or demonstrate how they had [legally] acquired their assets.

 

I think they are being selective. Between now and the next election they will periodically trot more of these PTP illegal enrichment cases to subtly entrench their own ideas of who should govern which of course will be themselves in one guise or another. 

[ianf]

28 minutes ago, elgordo38 said:

I think they are being selective. Between now and the next election they will periodically trot more of these PTP illegal enrichment cases to subtly entrench their own ideas of who should govern which of course will be themselves in one guise or another. 

Could you elaborate? Evidence? Analysis? W.H.Y.?

[elgordo38]

Just now, ianf said:

Could you elaborate? Evidence? Analysis? W.H.Y.?

Sorry I had to go with the following " I think they are being selective " key word think. My crystal ball is in for a silicon patch and so it is rather cloudy at the moment. I am going to butcher a chicken and read its entrails and after that I will get back to you. Please be patient as I am new at entrail reading. 

[ianf]

4 minutes ago, elgordo38 said:

Sorry I had to go with the following " I think they are being selective " key word think. My crystal ball is in for a silicon patch and so it is rather cloudy at the moment. I am going to butcher a chicken and read its entrails and after that I will get back to you. Please be patient as I am new at entrail reading. 

Your response highlights the stupidity and prejudice one finds in forums. Not funny at all.

[biggles45]

And your response highlights the totally blinkered approach often seen on Thai forums, but I did find it very funny. !!! 

[darksidedog]

7 hours ago, andersonat said:

I can imagine that if the The National Anti-Corruption Commission looked into the affairs of the very rich people in Thailand, they would find that a significant fraction of Team Rich could also not be able to explain or demonstrate how they had [legally] acquired their assets.

 

In India they have the Lok Ayudya, who looks for inexplicable and disproportionate assets. They are very busy and regularly relieve crooked politicians of significant sums.

I suspect here though, those targeted will be those in opposition to the PM and pals.

[thaiguzzi]

Bit strange though, don'cha think?

Ya know Chiang Mai, Udon, Ubon, back to Chang Rai, all being investigated for unusual wealth.

Yet, in Surat Thani, one of Thailand's  most famous, most influential and WEALTHY politicians, never gets a look in. Strange that. Innit.

[gdgbb]

On 17/03/2017 at 9:05 PM, thaiguzzi said:

Bit strange though, don'cha think?

Ya know Chiang Mai, Udon, Ubon, back to Chang Rai, all being investigated for unusual wealth.

Yet, in Surat Thani, one of Thailand's  most famous, most influential and WEALTHY politicians, never gets a look in. Strange that. Innit.

Nor strange at all, unless you are accusing him of something.  Maybe he has justified his assets and the sources and nothing amiss was found?  It does happen.

[heybruce]

On 3/17/2017 at 4:08 AM, elgordo38 said:

I think they are being selective. Between now and the next election they will periodically trot more of these PTP illegal enrichment cases to subtly entrench their own ideas of who should govern which of course will be themselves in one guise or another. 

 

On 3/17/2017 at 4:37 AM, ianf said:

Could you elaborate? Evidence? Analysis? W.H.Y.?

Evidence that the military wants to stay in power?  The constitution and the way it was "approved" in a sham referendum.

 

Evidence of unusual, unexplained wealth in the junta?  You can start here:   http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/thai-junta-beset-by-corruption-scandals/

[elgordo38]

21 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

Evidence that the military wants to stay in power?  The constitution and the way it was "approved" in a sham referendum.

 

Evidence of unusual, unexplained wealth in the junta?  You can start here:   http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/thai-junta-beset-by-corruption-scandals/

Thanks for covering for me. I hate these why what for provide evidence questions. Its to early in the day for that. 

[heybruce]

9 hours ago, elgordo38 said:

Thanks for covering for me. I hate these why what for provide evidence questions. Its to early in the day for that. 

No problem.  It was a troll question really, who doesn't know the military is corrupt and determined to stay in power?

[andersonat]

10 hours ago, heybruce said:

 

Evidence that the military wants to stay in power?  The constitution and the way it was "approved" in a sham referendum.

 

Evidence of unusual, unexplained wealth in the junta?  You can start here:   http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/thai-junta-beset-by-corruption-scandals/

 

HB  -  The document you cited was from a few years ago, but it was still informative and relevant. Thanks for the link.

 

[heybruce]

10 hours ago, heybruce said:

 

Evidence that the military wants to stay in power?  The constitution and the way it was "approved" in a sham referendum.

 

Evidence of unusual, unexplained wealth in the junta?  You can start here:   http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/thai-junta-beset-by-corruption-scandals/

 

10 minutes ago, andersonat said:

 

HB  -  The document you cited was from a few years ago, but it was still informative and relevant. Thanks for the link.

 

The junta learned its lessons from the requirement for members of the NLC to disclose financial assets--they now only require politicians to disclose financial information, not their own people.  Even though politicians no longer have any power. 

 

In spite of this the evidence is there even if the media must be very cautious in reporting it. During the people smuggling embarrassment (I know, it was a humanitarian crisis to the world, but simply an annoyance to the junta) the junta insisted guilt lay entirely with the police and local politicians, not the military.  Then the police, demonstrating why it's a bad idea to finger your partner in crime, released evidence that forced the arrest of LtGen Manas for high level involvement in people smuggling.  After that the junta made far fewer accusations towards the RTP, and talk of major RTP reform went away.

 

Now we have the junta warning trouble-makers not to make waves about a new casino built, possibly illegally, on the Thai-Cambodian border.  There warnings are less than subtle:

 

" On Monday, Deputy Prime Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan said he would not be responsible if anything unfortunate happened to Veera." http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30310548  

 

The message is clear:  Investigating and charging out-of-power politicians is fine.  Investigating what's going on with the junta is not.

[elgordo38]

On 3/17/2017 at 3:47 PM, ianf said:

Your response highlights the stupidity and prejudice one finds in forums. Not funny at all.

I am sorry that your not happy with my offerings for your personal information there is a block button push it. I in turn will push mine and we will be mutual mute friends. Have a great day. Work a bit on your approach to people it rather sucks. 

[elgordo38]

On 3/20/2017 at 10:12 PM, gdgbb said:

has justified his assets and the sources and nothing amiss was found? 

Interesting comment one must wonder which horse he is backing in the political race. 

[gdgbb]

On 30/03/2017 at 0:53 PM, elgordo38 said:

Interesting comment one must wonder which horse he is backing in the political race. 

I wonder why you didn't copy what I actually said which was, "Maybe he has justified his assets and the sources and nothing amiss was found?"  That one word that you deliberately omitted makes a big difference.

[elgordo38]

7 hours ago, gdgbb said:

I wonder why you didn't copy what I actually said which was, "Maybe he has justified his assets and the sources and nothing amiss was found?"  That one word that you deliberately omitted makes a big difference.

Then again Maybe he did not. Does the word maybe make a big difference?. Maybe. 

[gdgbb]

2 hours ago, elgordo38 said:

Then again Maybe he did not. Does the word maybe make a big difference?. Maybe. 

It bloody well did when you deliberately misquoted me.  You took it from my making a suggestion to your making it appear that it I had made a categoric statement that he had justified his assets.  That was not what I had said. 

 

By the way there is a rule on Thaivisa that does not allow the altering of other poster's quotes if that alteration gives the quote a different meaning from the original.

[elgordo38]

1 hour ago, gdgbb said:

It bloody well did when you deliberately misquoted me.  You took it from my making a suggestion to your making it appear that it I had made a categoric statement that he had justified his assets.  That was not what I had said. 

 

By the way there is a rule on Thaivisa that does not allow the altering of other poster's quotes if that alteration gives the quote a different meaning from the original.

My apologies for not understanding your intent. 

[gk10002000]

Well, siezing is one thing, but how about simple criminal charges of tax evasion, then of course further investigation if necessary for criminal activities that generated the monies?  Or does he get off easy here, no jail time, and just gives up a lot of money?  Where does the money and assets go?  The general treasury , which I am pretty sure the junta can dive into anytime they want?

[elgordo38]

On 3/17/2017 at 3:47 PM, ianf said:

Your response highlights the stupidity and prejudice one finds in forums. Not funny at all.

Had to give biggles a like. Your confusing humor with stupidity and prejudice. I think your humor level is down a litre or two. Practice doing ha ha's in front of a mirror and smiling.