rooster59 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 MRT probes the fall of a lifting frame Metropolitan Rapid Transit Authority (MRT) has launched an investigation to determine how a lifting frame at the construction site of the electric train project fell on two cars and whether the contractor has strictly complied with safety standard. Two cars on in-bound Pahonyothin road near Ratchayothin intersection were damaged and, luckily, the drivers of both cars escaped unhurt. The accident took place at about 3.30 pm. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/mrt-probes-fall-lifting-frame/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-03-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Will be the usual story, the brakes failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 "Whether it has strictly complied with safety stands"... Would any intelligent person actually make such a comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf99 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 What is missing in the photograph are the lifting slings....maybe that is the rusty objects just on the left edge of the photo. The other thing and and I am not an NDT specialist (Non Destructive Testing) it looks like white Magnetic Particle spray is on the lifting eye on the right side but the 3 other lifting eyes are very rusty ......so someone has "checked " them - maybe ? But competently ...I very much doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf99 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Further to my last...I now see 3 make shift lifting eyes badly welded to the frame and also the remains of some weld from another that is missing/snapped off..... So were they lifting with smaller slings and shackles....? more incriminating evidence of deadly overhead lifting operations.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, lonewolf99 said: Further to my last...I now see 3 make shift lifting eyes badly welded to the frame and also the remains of some weld from another that is missing/snapped off..... So were they lifting with smaller slings and shackles....? more incriminating evidence of deadly overhead lifting operations.... I see 4 well built lifting rings still in place each with 4 gussets to stop rotatiIon by providing lateral restraint. Edited March 18, 2017 by Reigntax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 1 hour ago, lonewolf99 said: Further to my last...I now see 3 make shift lifting eyes badly welded to the frame and also the remains of some weld from another that is missing/snapped off..... So were they lifting with smaller slings and shackles....? more incriminating evidence of deadly overhead lifting operations.... Here is the website for ItalThai..........http://www.italthaiengineering.com/?lang=en I am sure if you contact them, since you seem to be most competent in this area, they will be pleased to hear your comments about their equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 No one killed this time.....Everything is OK....till next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajarngreg Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 What's a safety standard here? Aeeh, a motorbike with bicycle rims, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 10 hours ago, rooster59 said: fell on two cars and whether the contractor has strictly complied with safety standard. What a silly question of course he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 And the second car is? I can count only one, have they already removed the second. Or is it an insurance scam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 As the four padeyes are still in place look for unchecked old frayed webbing lifting straps. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 7 hours ago, Reigntax said: I see 4 well built lifting rings still in place each with 4 gussets to stop rotatiIon by providing lateral restraint. The photos seem to indicate that the frame was being lifted directly above traffic, is that allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 4 hours ago, scorecard said: The photos seem to indicate that the frame was being lifted directly above traffic, is that allowed? It would be a situation any smart person would try to avoid for obvious reasons however i assume on some construction sites this may not always be possible. Whether the lift is occurring within the boundary of the site, or outside, it would generally occur above either construction workers or public areas for some part of time. Lifting equipment design factors of safety are usually extremely high to avoid a situation such as occurred. There is no failure on the lifting "eyes", the cradle appears to have been empty during the fall which suggests either the cradle was not attached correctly, or it was the load being lifted and was not restrained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Of course the Contractor adhered to safety standards. As we all know such Thai standards are very high and always enforced. Sheesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Reigntax said: It would be a situation any smart person would try to avoid for obvious reasons however i assume on some construction sites this may not always be possible. Whether the lift is occurring within the boundary of the site, or outside, it would generally occur above either construction workers or public areas for some part of time. Lifting equipment design factors of safety are usually extremely high to avoid a situation such as occurred. There is no failure on the lifting "eyes", the cradle appears to have been empty during the fall which suggests either the cradle was not attached correctly, or it was the load being lifted and was not restrained. Yep. No shackles to be seen so most likely web straps under the frame and it slipped out or they were old and gave way. Edited March 19, 2017 by overherebc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 19 hours ago, Reigntax said: I see 4 well built lifting rings still in place each with 4 gussets to stop rotatiIon by providing lateral restraint. But I see no lifting harness. Strange. In an incident like this it is normal to leave the site untouched for the investigation team to view. So where is the lifting tackle? Maybe there wasn't any. Maybe it wasn't being lifted at the time. It could have slipped or been knocked by another force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, Moonlover said: But I see no lifting harness. Strange. In an incident like this it is normal to leave the site untouched for the investigation team to view. So where is the lifting tackle? Maybe there wasn't any. Maybe it wasn't being lifted at the time. It could have slipped or been knocked by another force. Im sure it was just positioned on the ground and that car ran into it causing such impact that it came to rest on the bonnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 24 minutes ago, Moonlover said: But I see no lifting harness. Strange. In an incident like this it is normal to leave the site untouched for the investigation team to view. So where is the lifting tackle? Maybe there wasn't any. Maybe it wasn't being lifted at the time. It could have slipped or been knocked by another force. If it fell out because it was just slung with straps then they will still be fixed to whatever was lifting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda13 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Car manufacturers are just going way overboard with the size of bonnet emblems nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keep it real Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 driver at fault, shouldn't got up that morning, had breakfast and drove the car on that road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunderland Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 There are no safety standards. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemguy Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 A similar accident happened when they were building the Sukhumvit line back in 1999. The left hand side extension beam for sliding the concrete section forward dropped down and crushed a taxi cab and killed the cab driver Then the family of the Taxi driver had to fight the whole way for any insurance compensation and finally the insurance company paid pittance to the family of the Taxi cab driver. It was in the news papers for about 6 months before they finally settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemguy Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 51 minutes ago, keep it real said: driver at fault, shouldn't got up that morning, had breakfast and drove the car on that road! You about summed it up correctly .... Blame the victim... It works well in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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