jerojero Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 The majority of the English speaking world would say truck. It's just Britain who say lorry. Lorry 'bout dat, chief.
Shawn0000 Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 On 21/03/2017 at 10:35 AM, tharae said: The majority of the English speaking world would say truck. It's just Britain who say lorry. No, it is like I said, just North America and Australia, the rest, Africa, India, Malaysia, Singapore, etc. all say lorry, about 1.5 billion saying lorry to half a billion saying truck.
tharae Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 18 hours ago, Shawn0000 said: No, it is like I said, just North America and Australia, the rest, Africa, India, Malaysia, Singapore, etc. all say lorry, about 1.5 billion saying lorry to half a billion saying truck. Bad news. Of the english speaking counties (english as a first language )North America (incl Canada), Australia, New Zealand say truck. While UK, South Africa, Northern Ireland use the term Lorry. Neither India, Malaysia or Singapore use English as a first language. Neither does Pakistan, who BTW use the term truck. Hope that clears it up for you.
Shawn0000 Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 1 hour ago, tharae said: Bad news. Of the english speaking counties (english as a first language )North America (incl Canada), Australia, New Zealand say truck. While UK, South Africa, Northern Ireland use the term Lorry. Neither India, Malaysia or Singapore use English as a first language. Neither does Pakistan, who BTW use the term truck. Hope that clears it up for you. How does that translate into bad news in your mind? Who cares about the first language? This was about which countries use which term. India, Malaysia and Singapore all use English to a great extent, in fact English is an official language in all of those countries, their laws were written in English and they use English as a business language. Once you stop moving the goal posts you will have to admit that lorry is a more commonly used term than truck worldwide, that is just a fact.
tharae Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Shawn0000 said: How does that translate into bad news in your mind? Who cares about the first language? This was about which countries use which term. India, Malaysia and Singapore all use English to a great extent, in fact English is an official language in all of those countries, their laws were written in English and they use English as a business language. Once you stop moving the goal posts you will have to admit that lorry is a more commonly used term than truck worldwide, that is just a fact. Just because you reach a call centre in Bangalore every time you need tech support it doesn't mean everyone in India speaks english. Far from it. If you want to include India then you will have to include China, who use the term truck. So the facts are that truck is the most widely used term. Move on.
Shawn0000 Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, tharae said: Just because you reach a call centre in Bangalore every time you need tech support it doesn't mean everyone in India speaks english. Far from it. If you want to include India then you will have to include China, who use the term truck. So the facts are that truck is the most widely used term. Move on. No, English is the joint official language along with Hindi, nothing like that in China, you clearly haven't the first idea what you are talking about so I suggest it is you who "moves on".
tharae Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Shawn0000 said: No, English is the joint official language along with Hindi, nothing like that in China, you clearly haven't the first idea what you are talking about so I suggest it is you who "moves on". Hindi is the official language of India. English is also used, just as it is is in every other country in the world. You're just trying to use India to prop up your flimsy argument. The fact is Truck is used where english is used as the main language in every country except UK, SA, and a couple of smaller jurisdictions. So no, Lorry isn't used in the majority of english speaking countries. Although I do know a couple guys named Lorry. You sound upset. Sorry if I have offended you.
Shawn0000 Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, tharae said: Hindi is the official language of India. English is also used, just as it is is in every other country in the world. You're just trying to use India to prop up your flimsy argument. The fact is Truck is used where english is used as the main language in every country except UK, SA, and a couple of smaller jurisdictions. So no, Lorry isn't used in the majority of english speaking countries. Although I do know a couple guys named Lorry. You sound upset. Sorry if I have offended you. English and Hindi and the two official languages of India, you know not what you speak, they had intended to phase out English as an official language fifteen years after independence, but they later negated that act and English remains the joint official language along with Hindi, There are only four countries where they also say truck that use English as an official language, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, whereas there are 54 countries that use English as their main language. Funny that you bring up South Africa, where English is a minority and unofficial language, but reject India where it is an official language. There were actually 22 other countries you could have chosen in Africa, 3 of which use English as their primary language, but you chose South Africa, shows just how little you know about English usage worldwide. Anyway, there are far more English speaking countries just in Africa that say lorry than there are in the world who say truck, whether you want to talk about numbers of speakers or numbers of countries, lorry, and British English in general, wins hands down. And what made me sound upset to you, surely not simply repeating the same inane language you used to me?
tharae Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 14 hours ago, Shawn0000 said: English and Hindi and the two official languages of India, you know not what you speak, they had intended to phase out English as an official language fifteen years after independence, but they later negated that act and English remains the joint official language along with Hindi, There are only four countries where they also say truck that use English as an official language, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, whereas there are 54 countries that use English as their main language. Funny that you bring up South Africa, where English is a minority and unofficial language, but reject India where it is an official language. There were actually 22 other countries you could have chosen in Africa, 3 of which use English as their primary language, but you chose South Africa, shows just how little you know about English usage worldwide. Anyway, there are far more English speaking countries just in Africa that say lorry than there are in the world who say truck, whether you want to talk about numbers of speakers or numbers of countries, lorry, and British English in general, wins hands down. And what made me sound upset to you, surely not simply repeating the same inane language you used to me? Less than 10% of the population in India speak English. Hardly what you would call an English speaking country. Many other countries where English is used as a secondary language have much higher rates of literacy in the English countries and use the term truck. 8% of the population of India is circa 100M. I'm a generous person and you insist on fallaciously including India, so i'll let you use the 100m. Using your figures, again, i'm a generous person, that's less people using the term lorry. None of the rest of Europe uses the term lorry. So you can do whatever maths you like, more people use the term truck. Oh, and there is no lorry manufacturing industry in any country in the world, only a truck manufacturing industry. Lorry is simply a colloquial term for truck. Not even the UK has a lorry manufacturer - it's Leyland trucks Ltd, not Leyland Lorries Ltd. So looks like you're the one who doesn't know what they're talking about. And no, don't bother playing back your dodgy argument again.
Shawn0000 Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 38 minutes ago, tharae said: Less than 10% of the population in India speak English. Hardly what you would call an English speaking country. Many other countries where English is used as a secondary language have much higher rates of literacy in the English countries and use the term truck. 8% of the population of India is circa 100M. I'm a generous person and you insist on fallaciously including India, so i'll let you use the 100m. Using your figures, again, i'm a generous person, that's less people using the term lorry. None of the rest of Europe uses the term lorry. So you can do whatever maths you like, more people use the term truck. Oh, and there is no lorry manufacturing industry in any country in the world, only a truck manufacturing industry. Lorry is simply a colloquial term for truck. Not even the UK has a lorry manufacturer - it's Leyland trucks Ltd, not Leyland Lorries Ltd. So looks like you're the one who doesn't know what they're talking about. And no, don't bother playing back your dodgy argument again. Its over ten percent who speak English in India now, about 125 million people which makes it the second highest number of English speakers in any country in the world. Utterly hilarious that you wanted to include the 9.6% of South Africans who speak English, all 4 million of them, but do not want to include the higher percentage and far greater number of speakers in India, where English is actually an official language. You really haven't done well here. Who knows what you were thinking when you decided to write, " what ever way you do the math" having just been shown that there are only 4 countries where English is an official language use truck whereas 34 countries where English is an official language use lorry, but never mind darling, now you feel the need to once again move the goal posts to include all of Europe. And lorry is not a colloquial term, it is the British English word, it predates the use of truck in this usage by about 50 years, both having been railroad terms.
ableguy Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 On 3/20/2017 at 11:10 AM, tandor said: ...according to the article...hmmm..the driver did fess up to a previous trip! They always do have you not noticed ? Now I wonder why ?
tharae Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 22 hours ago, Shawn0000 said: Its over ten percent who speak English in India now, about 125 million people which makes it the second highest number of English speakers in any country in the world. Utterly hilarious that you wanted to include the 9.6% of South Africans who speak English, all 4 million of them, but do not want to include the higher percentage and far greater number of speakers in India, where English is actually an official language. You really haven't done well here. Who knows what you were thinking when you decided to write, " what ever way you do the math" having just been shown that there are only 4 countries where English is an official language use truck whereas 34 countries where English is an official language use lorry, but never mind darling, now you feel the need to once again move the goal posts to include all of Europe. And lorry is not a colloquial term, it is the British English word, it predates the use of truck in this usage by about 50 years, both having been railroad terms. It's already been established that in English speaking countries (that is, where English is spoken as first language) the collective majority use the term truck. You're still desperately predicating your fallacious argument on the inclusion of India. If you really want to use India, then you have to include Pakistan, who use the term truck. All of South America, Europe and most of Asia including China, Japan and South Korea use the term truck. Let me know if you come up with anything new that is material, princess.
Shawn0000 Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 2 hours ago, tharae said: It's already been established that in English speaking countries (that is, where English is spoken as first language) the collective majority use the term truck. You're still desperately predicating your fallacious argument on the inclusion of India. If you really want to use India, then you have to include Pakistan, who use the term truck. All of South America, Europe and most of Asia including China, Japan and South Korea use the term truck. Let me know if you come up with anything new that is material, princess. Collectively, yes, by population there are more people in countries where English is the first or an official language that use American English, but by number of countries, if we look at how widespread, then it is not even close, the number of countries using British English far exceed those using American, but then not when you include second language speakers, then American English again exceeds, a relatively recent change but one that has already happened.
Gonzo the Face Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 Lets get off this truck/Lorry bantering and settle it once and for all.... and get back to this thread topic. OK children???? Now which of the following do you think more people in this world would comprehend???? ^ Keep on "Lorryin" * Keep on "Truckin" nuff said
SteveB2 Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 For Gawd's sake Mods, close this thread. It's been taken over by ranting TEFL-ites
tharae Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 On 3/25/2017 at 10:43 AM, Shawn0000 said: Collectively, yes, by population there are more people in countries where English is the first or an official language that use American English, but by number of countries, if we look at how widespread, then it is not even close, the number of countries using British English far exceed those using American, but then not when you include second language speakers, then American English again exceeds, a relatively recent change but one that has already happened. Quick update for you, cos I know you're so wedded to India using the word Lorry when referring to a truck. Here is a link to road signs used in India. Not a lorry in sight. http://www.aasindia.org/Traffic signs.pdf
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