Gonzo the Face Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Has anyone heard anything about guest houses being forced into closure for not having or being able to get an hotel license? Referring to CM here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I keep reading the many reports that tourism in Chiang Mai is booming. The hotels and guest houses are fully booked for months ahead at a time, the bars are teeming with customers with beautiful girls, music and beers in abundance and the rich Chinese are poring in, in their thousands spending like there is no tomorrow. Although not witnessed any of this myself, I`ve seen it all on the Internet, so it must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 That would be an awful lot of guest houses ! Not to mention probably a lot of hotels too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 The only places I have heard of being closed down are the ones with Chinese connections/ownership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted April 12, 2017 Author Share Posted April 12, 2017 54 minutes ago, cmsally said: That would be an awful lot of guest houses ! Not to mention probably a lot of hotels too. The word I got was about 200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I know of one that has closed where the defacto owner has sold up and returned to the UK, on the back of currency exchange rate strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 A friend of mine sold up in the south and went back to UK but only because of increase of values and with the profit could buy a nice house in UK. All I see are guesthouses opening , not closing. Even 200 could be the total amount of Chinese owned ones. I can think of a good few off hand. The only way you could check it out was if you had names of places closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Here is a link to the items on the proposed crackdown back in Feb. What has happened to make you raise this question at this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gonzo the Face said: The word I got was about 200 thats a big number to be closed, where did u get the word from, ??? of course, u cannot tell, where the source came from, Why Total B/S its a Patti Smith good evening to all Edited April 12, 2017 by evenstevens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 It would be ironic if that was the case with illegal airbnb type business booming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesquite Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Rumor mongering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 The inspectors were putting pressure on a friend, they were threatening to change his guest house to a hotel which would have required a fire escape and a few other expensive upgrades. He negotiated and they decided he was a guest house.. The biggest fiasco is the hotel/ condominum on Nimann across from Maya. The owner built as a condo opened as a hotel city shut him down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 But is there such a thing as a "guest house license". I think the OP's point was that there are only "hotel licenses". A case of one boot is supposed to fit all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, moe666 said: The inspectors were putting pressure on a friend, they were threatening to change his guest house to a hotel which would have required a fire escape and a few other expensive upgrades. He negotiated and they decided he was a guest house.. The biggest fiasco is the hotel/ condominum on Nimann across from Maya. The owner built as a condo opened as a hotel city shut him down You mean this one? https://www.booking.com/hotel/th/eastin-tan-chiang-mai.en-gb.html?aid=311984;label=eastin-tan-chiang-mai-vjTobb7Be7WOf8zj2arH4wS162172792940%3Apl%3Ata%3Ap1%3Ap2%3Aac%3Aap1t1%3Aneg%3Afi%3Atikwd-92736784028%3Alp1012742%3Ali%3Adet%3Adm;sid=c45d6f2b09e08ca9d94a9e7fd1a61fec;ucfs=1;room1=A,A;dest_type=city;dest_id=-3247115;srfid=8e01b3ffe6712fb9a3a1e155b63a3f0815779964X1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyas Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, evenstevens said: no just calling a spade a spade, to recap O/P asked for any confirmation if any guest house, in C/mai being forced to close ,for not being able to acquire a hotel licience and followed up posting a number of 200 have been closed by his sources (Word) till now, no member has given any shred of evidence on this thread, to support that this indeed , has happen, in C/mai not even one guest house , let alone 2OO, as I posted y/day that is a big number to be closed so who is bull dusting who, ,instead of rubbishing my post with the above comments,take a good look at yourself, no wonder Maerim Plaza was not your fit its a Gary Puckett and The Union Gap ,late evening to all Not "closed down" [yet] ,but being looked at.. CHIANG MAI: -- Chiang Mai district chief Preecha Sirinam has admitted that 198 hotels in the downtown area of the city are operating without a license. Many have been contacted but some are still refusing orders to register their businesses at district offices. Some of these have Chinese people as nominees, he said . The city is mounting a crackdown on hotels as part of government and Interior Ministry policy to tighten up the trade and thereby improve safety for guests, Thairath reported. Edited April 13, 2017 by happyas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Final notice: Continue bickering and making things personal and you will receive a suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I find it difficult to take in that 200 CM guest houses or hotels could be shut down, but to put it mildly, this would not surprise me if it happened. No one in their right mind would think about either opening a bar, a guest house/hotel or a cafe/restaurant in Chiang Mai. Considering that new regulations could be imposed at a moments notice, I wouldn`t even take over any of these types of businesses for free, it must be a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Just as an update on this.... anyone seen or heard of any of their neighborhood guesthouses being shut or unable to rent nightly? What about condos renting nightly. What about homestays, or boarding rooms? I can tell you firsthand that its hit me. Just wondering if there are any others. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I haven't heard anything , how has it hit you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 I am not allowed to operate as a guest house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Gonzo the Face said: I am not allowed to operate as a guest house. Who says ? (You can pm me if you prefer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Our great and wonderful municipal brain trust, It gets down to most guest houses do not have hotel licenses. I have tried now for over 20 years, but to get a hotel license you need to provide architectual drawings and most guest houses like mine. built maybe 90-100 years ago just never had such an animal. Typical Thai fashion, they pass a law that sounds good, but never look into the details. Thats why I was asking if anyone knew of other guest house being shut down. Edited April 28, 2017 by Gonzo the Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 In the real world, the civilized world that is, when a law like is passed that would have a possible negative effect on so many they would grandfather in those operating prior to then law going into effect. But this is Thailand...nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 29 minutes ago, Gonzo the Face said: In the real world, the civilized world that is, when a law like is passed that would have a possible negative effect on so many they would grandfather in those operating prior to then law going into effect. But this is Thailand...nuff said How can we help, what do you need, there's loads of CM posters willing to help if you can steer it all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 54 minutes ago, simoh1490 said: How can we help, what do you need, there's loads of CM posters willing to help if you can steer it all? 54 minutes ago, simoh1490 said: How can we help, what do you need, there's loads of CM posters willing to help if you can steer it all? Simoh1490 ???? are you sure you are on the right forum ???? I must say that was a very un -TV thing to say, but it just may restore my belief in humanity. More seriously , if you get the chance please stop by. Be good to put a face to that offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Crikey if we carry on like this, we will be known as the "nice forum". I will be in touch Gonzo, maybe simoh would like to join us ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 to get a hotel license you need to provide architectual drawings I suppose its not as simple as getting a local architect to draw up some plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 You need to have plans but those plans/building should also fit the "current regulations". Then you need to have the plans signed off as well as satisfying the regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 13/04/2017 at 10:37 AM, moe666 said: The inspectors were putting pressure on a friend, they were threatening to change his guest house to a hotel which would have required a fire escape and a few other expensive upgrades. He negotiated and they decided he was a guest house.. The biggest fiasco is the hotel/ condominum on Nimann across from Maya. The owner built as a condo opened as a hotel city shut him down And so it should happen. Many of these cheap stay guest houses are potential death traps. Upstairs rooms with no windows, no fire escapes and only way out the building is via a staircase leading to the main entrance. If in the event of a fire there could be no escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 8 hours ago, cmsally said: Crikey if we carry on like this, we will be known as the "nice forum". I will be in touch Gonzo, maybe simoh would like to join us ! I'm happy to join in and help with whatever can be done,somebody needs to steer me though otherwise I'll be running round in circles! I'll stop by and see John by Monday, anything other than that, folks can PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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