Dumbastheycome Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 hours ago, BigKahuna said: Unemployment at 10 year lows. Are the armament factories back in full swing then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob13 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, BigKahuna said: . You say policies take time to work yet you complain that not enough has been achieved in 3 months. So far trump has flip flopped and back again on every major policy he ran on. He's running up the largest bill for security for his family so they can jet-set around the world and for him to play golf and rent rooms to his presidential security detail at maralago 3 times a month. He lies, he makes things up, he hasn't had a single moment where he's done anything that is remotely presidential. Policies take time, you set them, you work them through and you wait. All he does, is say, things like 'the US will stay out of Syria', then piss away $60 million worth of ammo accomplishing nothing, because he gave the enemy a heads up. Policy wise he's done nothing but prove he has no policy other than adding to his bank account. You can like Obama and W or hate them doesn't matter , they did have the sense to set there policies and spend their terms in office trying to push them through. US was in bad form when he came in and if he continues at the same pace, it'll be far gone by the next election. The best policy he spoke about in his campaign was the infrastructure rebuild, what happened there? Hadn't heard him say boo about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 You have ALL got it wrong!! They are going to Australia to get some "cannon fodder" as they have done in EVERY conflict....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmj Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Maybe China has warned him off... Anyway he's better when he says <deleted> all instead of the u-turns, see what happens when NK test their next missile and I'm betting they will pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 It was not Trumps fault that the biggest navy in world doesnt know where its ships are. The left hand doesnt know what the right hands doing. Recipe for disaster in a real war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free123 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Rob13 said: Good strategy in an actual conflict and you're planning a sneak attack.Making idle threats are useless at best. Trump comes off looking uninformed and lying as usual. Another dropped ball. always remember America is democracy they received what they elected..they graved for and received.a 13 y.old with nuclear toys and the world as his playground...trump should shake hand with n k. kim yong...two likemindet weirdos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Donald Trump is incompetent pure and simple. His constant lying and use of social media to discuss complex issues shows he has no real grasp of the issues. Now North Korea knows he was lying about his so called armada which really wasn't one and they may make a miscalculation the next time. I really don't think Trump cares how many people die from his lying and incompetence because as a a man with a personality disorder he needs to be relieved of his Presidency by invoking the 25th Amendment. People who oppose his Presidency are not 'haters'. We wanted him to succeed but his lack of any redeeming qualities as well as incompetent decisions and a poor staff to match make him a pariah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 It gets even worse... The Don doesn't even know the history or present leader on North Korea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 They are ONLY going to Aus (and probably N.Z. to see if they can recruit someone else to go in and get killed when it hits the fan with China anyway!! Technology is only so good, sitting off shore and pressing buttons while looking at a computer screen only gets you so far!! Sooner or later someone has to do the REAL dirty work, Australia hellooooo, are you available ...AGAIN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Oh and by the way, who cares about US politics anyway? No one else in the world had any input, we just sit back and wait and see! You have a form of democracy, you made your bed..... now lie in it!! Stop hijacking the thread, it's about your "amada" going to Nth Korea, you can hit them from home, why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I don;t think the Australians will be too quick to want to fight another Korean war under the leadership of Donald Trump and I doubt the Australian Prime Minister has forgotten how Trump spoke to him during the last phone call. I certainly haven't forgotten it and I am sure neither has the Australian public. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut...Every Time he says something he shows his ignorance and lack of maturity. His style might work as a Billionaire when negotiating a land sale but never as President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Thaidream said: I don;t think the Australians will be too quick to want to fight another Korean war under the leadership of Donald Trump and I doubt the Australian Prime Minister has forgotten how Trump spoke to him during the last phone call. I certainly haven't forgotten it and I am sure neither has the Australian public. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut...Every Time he says something he shows his ignorance and lack of maturity. His style might work as a Billionaire when negotiating a land sale but never as President. I hope you are right but in the past the powers to be have always crumpled! Aus is / has become so dependant, or so they think, and then there is the money issue as always..... Ah politics!! and power.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Chicken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 8 hours ago, webfact said: As Trump warned North Korea, his 'armada' was headed toward Australia I have fought alongside my American Brothers in Arms in 3 wars. Love them, love the way they work and love their professionalism. Things could not be more embarrassing for them at the moment with this Commander in Chief, I feel for them. Stay strong guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, soalbundy said: Chicken Yes Americans are when it comes to shedding blood! Look at the record in the first and second world wars, not to mention Viet Nam, Afganistan and the gulf wars! A TOTAL reliance on technology, and when the body bags started coming home total protest.... Per population and comitment well work it out, 1 minute ago, Andaman Al said: I have fought alongside my American Brothers in Arms in 3 wars. Love them, love the way they work and love their professionalism. Things could not be more embarrassing for them at the moment with this Commander in Chief, I feel for them. Stay strong guys! Yep I know guys that have fought with them, and they too have had NOTHING but praise for the guys on the ground, but their reliance on their so called technology and pulling other smaller less wealthy nations into the fray... I am not so sure .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 ^^^ I think one big issue Boomerangutang is that N Korea has a standing army alone of over 4 million and roughly 2 million are stationed along the S Korean border. Nukes cannot be used to hit along the S Korea border and by the time the first launches of conventional weapons occur those 2 million will be moving like ants across into S Korea with whatever mayhem may follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Trump is gonna get those pesky North Koreans once & for all !!! go get'em tiger ......Yee haw! Go Donny go! Kick some NKorean ass. The truth of the matter is that Trump is stupid enough and reactionary enough to actually start another war. He's a bully and now has the might of US military to play with, that just feeds his insatiable ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Re-assuring news from Pence who has assured the Japanese that Trump is seeking a sanctions approach to NK through China and he has no intention of any military action against Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahuna Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, dunroaming said: Re-assuring news from Pence who has assured the Japanese that Trump is seeking a sanctions approach to NK through China and he has no intention of any military action against Kim. Well that was obvious wasnt it? Trump is anti war. Never ever seen such negative press. 18 months of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, dunroaming said: Re-assuring news from Pence who has assured the Japanese that Trump is seeking a sanctions approach to NK through China and he has no intention of any military action against Kim. So which one is the lying BS(er)? Trump is turning East Asian politics and stability on its arse. I guess it is cool to start conflicts 9000 miles from home. No words acceptable to this forum can be used to describe Trump and his morality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikster Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 4 hours ago, boomerangutang said: Trump's greatest achievement in his first 84 days is continuing to stifle investigations into his possible-treasonous activities. Trump's military strategy is starting to shape up, and here's what it looks like: A>>> Without any prior diplomatic maneuverings, just knee jerk to unleash massive ballistic force by un-manned means. B>>> zero follow-up C>>> rinse and repeat All the while, talk little with allies and less with adversaries. Have no care about expenditures. $10 million or $10 billion in bombs, ....doesn't matter. What matters most is the following: >>>> look tough >>>> divert from investigations >>>> don't release tax info >>>> continue to demonize (and fire, if possible) any person or entity who questions your illegal domestic activities >>>> continue to blame Obama, HRC, Pelosi, and anyone else for your own failings. And you are aware of US Military Strategic plans how .. your decades of military service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, BigKahuna said: Well that was obvious wasnt it? Trump is anti war. Never ever seen such negative press. 18 months of crap. Trump (through Pence) said two days ago that all options were open when it came to NK including military action. Your boy Trump has no idea what to say next.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 5 hours ago, pitrevie said: I am not surprised the Armada is heading towards Australia, does Turnbull think Trump has forgotten that phone call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 This is like the time 'Dubya' was told that Air Force One was flying over the Republic of Georgia, he called the VP and said "What's going on Dick ? Those boys down in Atlanta got their own country now ?" Trump is clueless because he spends his time watching Fox and Friends for all his 'intel'. Help us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikster Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, RigPig said: Yes Americans are when it comes to shedding blood! Look at the record in the first and second world wars, not to mention Viet Nam, Afganistan and the gulf wars! A TOTAL reliance on technology, and when the body bags started coming home total protest.... Per population and comitment well work it out, Yep I know guys that have fought with them, and they too have had NOTHING but praise for the guys on the ground, but their reliance on their so called technology and pulling other smaller less wealthy nations into the fray... I am not so sure .... Well, I suppose your handle is half right. How many tens of thousands of dead and wounded does it take to avoid being called "chicken"? Who do you think saved Australia from the Japanese in WWII? "A TOTAL reliance on technology .." Odd! Didn't seem do hi-tech when I was humping the hills on 14 day "excursions" in the Central Highlands ci. '64. I met a number of good Aussies in 'Nam, especially a Caribou pilot who flew supplies into our camp. They deserve a classier and more honest spokesman than you. So I will end this with a well deserved salute. .!.. Edited April 19, 2017 by klikster corrections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Of course , the military has plans for every scenario everywhere in the World . A war on the Korean peninsula would be devastating. Seoul would be partially destroyed by NK artillery and it is possible that the NK Army could actually occupy part of it. The Americans would need at least 100,000 ground troops real quick to turn back the NK onslaught and total air control. There is no doubt the US would win with the help of the Japanese and possibly other Allies should the North fire the missiles towards either S. Korea; Japan or the US. The scenario becomes more complicate with an American First Strike based on the theory that NK is preparing to actually target a South Korean City; Japan or America. Then it is America who has struck first and the World waits for the NK reaction. The problem I have with Trump is that his mind seems to operate on a different level and not think about the results of his actions or his orders. The US military is trained to follow orders- they do not make the decision to attack or not. Should Donald Trump make a decision based on his own mind set ad his own limited interpretation of the pro's and con's the World is in trouble. I truly hope that he listens to his military command who usually attempts to avoid a war- not start one. A new Korea War would be devastating in the numbers of deaths- not to mention the economic disaster that would result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikster Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 56 minutes ago, Andaman Al said: ^^^ I think one big issue Boomerangutang is that N Korea has a standing army alone of over 4 million and roughly 2 million are stationed along the S Korean border. Nukes cannot be used to hit along the S Korea border and by the time the first launches of conventional weapons occur those 2 million will be moving like ants across into S Korea with whatever mayhem may follow. Spot on, AA. Was involved in one of those "strategic game" operations in'65. The ROK's are good soldiers, but Seoul is very near the DMZ. A war would be a disaster for a people who have had a long brutal one about 70 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The American military now do have a lot of technology but wars are won by air power and the guy on the ground who has to take territory and holdit. I second the poster who states that in Vietnam- he didn't see much technology and like me when I was there- he had a rucksack and a rifle. We sure as hell didn't have any cell phones; computers to check our social network or even email to send a message to a loved one. The Gulf Wars- one and two and even Afghanistan all depended on the same way wars have always been fought- Armor, Artillery and Infantry- supported by air power. A new war in Korea might be more high tech as far as using computers to analyze intelligence or disruption of certain computerized elements of the enemy. However, since NK doesn't use much real sophisticated technology- another war would be mostly fought the same way as the others. I , also enjoyed working with the Aussies in Vietnam- very professional and highly trained. They always had your back- not to mention a cold brew or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 No matter. Kim's missile test didn't go so well anyway, blew up shortly after launch. Little doubt there's a couple Boomers hanging out up there. The carrier strike group is eye candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Off topic trolling posts and replies. The topic is open for discussion, this discussion is not about other posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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