Demolition crews move in to demolish South Pattaya "boutique hotel"

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Demolition crews move in to demolish South Pattaya "boutique hotel"

 

Picture: STV Pattaya

 

PATTAYA: -- Cranes, backhoes and demolition workers moved into Soi V.C. in South Pattaya yesterday to begin the dismantling of a 13 story hotel that defied building regulations.

 

The hotel - belonging to the Jomtien Holiday group is being razed at a cost of 2.9 million baht. The work is expected to take 6 months, reported STV Pattaya.

 

The case has dragged on in the courts after it was accepted that it had been illegally extended from seven floors to 13.

 

A property of 7 stories opposite may also be pulled down but has had a stay of execution as a possible solution is found. This was also illegally added to from five to seven floors.

 

Source: STV Pattaya

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-05-03

[colinneil]

Cost of 2.9 million baht, who will be paying the bill?

[dotpoom]

Always amazes me how little it costs to demolish a place here....same on that building down at Ballihai Pier. 

   Can' t begin to imagine what it would cost to take down a 13 story back home......the dynimite alone would cost that?

[jacko45k]

14 minutes ago, dotpoom said:

Always amazes me how little it costs to demolish a place here....same on that building down at Ballihai Pier. 

   Can' t begin to imagine what it would cost to take down a 13 story back home......the dynimite alone would cost that?

Actually I was thinking it seemed a lot!

Looked ready to fall down on its own.

[Wiggy]

"A property of 7 stories opposite may also be pulled down but has had a stay of execution as a possible solution is found." 

 

In other words: "Unless a huge brown envelope changes hands the other building will be demolished as well."

Edited May 3, 2017 by Wiggy

[Balance]

I doubt if there is a controlled explosion demolition firm in Thailand.  I think they take them down from the top by hand.

[Wiggy]

8 minutes ago, Balance said:

I doubt if there is a controlled explosion demolition firm in Thailand.  I think they take them down from the top by hand.

Just as well. If they tried a controlled explosion here, half of Pattaya would probably go up with it (which might not be such a bad thing).

Edited May 3, 2017 by Wiggy

[Emster23]

Will they move on and do that place down by Bali Hai pier next? Maybe Flying Pigs demolition company can do the job

[wvavin]

Not enough brown envelopes to pass around resulting to demolition. 

[mark01]

Always "selective" enforcement of building regulations.

Apply to all or none at all.

[ginjag]

1 hour ago, Wiggy said:

"A property of 7 stories opposite may also be pulled down but has had a stay of execution as a possible solution is found." 

 

In other words: "Unless a huge brown envelope changes hands the other building will be demolished as well."

So many examples,  WHAT ABOUT  View Talay  Jomptien,  and others built directly in front of other condo's,  Majestic condo Jomptien,   block built directly in front of,  no notification of intent--blocked the view 4th floor,  no sorry or compensation.      EXPLAIN  Pattaya City Council.......rules for some not for others

 

[ginjag]

Walking street demolition  ???       big business here,  top officials from government own  ????

[Toshiba66]

I find this story really frightening. They virtually doubled the height of the building. Were the footings and engineering able to permit the extra weight? How many other buildings are like this in Thailand? Its a wonder the thing didn't fall down by itself.

[xen]

The demolition company has probably figured out how much baht pocket-money it will gain from " recycling " the materials and fittings  to other building companies on top of the 2.9 million baht they are being paid. This is the only time they are interested in recycling is when there is baht involved.

Edited May 3, 2017 by xen
added an omitted word

[Guderian]

16 minutes ago, Toshiba66 said:

I find this story really frightening. They virtually doubled the height of the building. Were the footings and engineering able to permit the extra weight? How many other buildings are like this in Thailand? Its a wonder the thing didn't fall down by itself.

 

As I pointed out on this board many years ago, there's a nice condo on Jomtien Soi 9 that was built on top of old piles in poor condition. At that time i was driving along that soi almost every day so I saw just about everything that went on. The farang developer was adamant that all the old piling had been removed and replaced with new. Full of good intentions, no doubt, he was probably sitting in his nice air conditioned office and listening to what his foreman told him rather than getting his boots dirty and going to watch what his workers were up to. Maybe it didn't matter in the end, the condo is still standing, but it just goes to show you that unless you actually watched the construction you can never be sure what you're buying here.

[Minnehaha]

1 hour ago, Balance said:

I doubt if there is a controlled explosion demolition firm in Thailand.  I think they take them down from the top by hand.

Yes I would expect so. 

And this price can easily employ hundreds of Cambodians for years. 

2.9 mil. Take away 800.000 for company and have 2 Mill to pay 300 baht day or 400 to allow for mgt costs.

Is that cheap?

Would dynemite be more or less expensive?

Not sure about nearby buildings ... 

 

[Retiredandhappyhere]

2 hours ago, dotpoom said:

Always amazes me how little it costs to demolish a place here....same on that building down at Ballihai Pier. 

   Can' t begin to imagine what it would cost to take down a 13 story back home......the dynimite alone would cost that?

Yes, but back home they would employ safety measures to try to avoid three or four demolition workers being killed when the structure collapses prematurely on top of them, which seems to happen quite often here either in the building process or in the demolition.

 

Safety measures cost money whereas life is cheap.

[hkt83100]

58 minutes ago, Toshiba66 said:

I find this story really frightening. They virtually doubled the height of the building. Were the footings and engineering able to permit the extra weight? How many other buildings are like this in Thailand? Its a wonder the thing didn't fall down by itself.

Remember Korat in 1993... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_Royal_Plaza_Hotel

[Toshiba66]

4 minutes ago, hkt83100 said:

Remember Korat in 1993... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_Royal_Plaza_Hotel

Exactly what was frightening me.

 

The main reason for the collapse was the addition of floors without properly considering the strength of the structure and soil stability.

[ujayujay]

2 hours ago, Wiggy said:

"A property of 7 stories opposite may also be pulled down but has had a stay of execution as a possible solution is found." 

 

In other words: "Unless a huge brown envelope changes hands the other building will be demolished as well."

Oh come on.....this brown envelope- blabla sucks....

[Wiggy]

7 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

Oh come on.....this brown envelope- blabla sucks....

My mistake - there's no corruption in Thailand, is there?

[F4UCorsair]

B2.9 million???    Must be a boutique demolition for that price.   

 

I can't see how it could cost so little, 26 weeks at a little over B100,000 per week.  B100,000 is only about US$3,000,  $500 a day for 6 days a week.   Working on B300 a day per worker, about $9.00, just over 50 workers, and that's BEFORE a profit is made by the demolition company.    

 

I can't see how it could possibly be done for that, by Cambodians or anybody.

 

Could it be B29 Million??    More realistic.

[aslimversgwm]

6 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

Oh come on.....this brown envelope- blabla sucks....

Yes it does get rather tedious. Not everything or everybody is corrupt - these 'brown envelope' postings have become so cliched as to be derisory with no clear evidence to support the comment. 

[Belzybob]

6 minutes ago, aslimversgwm said:

Yes it does get rather tedious. Not everything or everybody is corrupt - these 'brown envelope' postings have become so cliched as to be derisory with no clear evidence to support the comment. 

ROFL

[Destiny1990]

2 hours ago, ginjag said:

So many examples,  WHAT ABOUT  View Talay  Jomptien,  and others built directly in front of other condo's,  Majestic condo Jomptien,   block built directly in front of,  no notification of intent--blocked the view 4th floor,  no sorry or compensation.      EXPLAIN  Pattaya City Council.......rules for some not for others

 

U can block others  as long as the building permit matches the number of floors.building permit for a 7 story building and a building permit for a 30 story building is not the same.

[Wiggy]

40 minutes ago, aslimversgwm said:

Yes it does get rather tedious. Not everything or everybody is corrupt - these 'brown envelope' postings have become so cliched as to be derisory with no clear evidence to support the comment. 

Ever heard of 'tongue-in cheek'? Lighten up.

[Monkeyrobot]

I can only see 7 floors in that pic , what's the problem.

 

[ginjag]

46 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

U can block others  as long as the building permit matches the number of floors.building permit for a 7 story building and a building permit for a 30 story building is not the same.

I think what is true and what happens is a different kettle of fish.

[JSixpack]

Bad news for our soon-to-be castrated members, or ex members:

 

On 7/31/2013 at 6:15 PM, 2169 said:

  On 7/31/2013 at 7:59 AM, Gsxrnz said:

I'll bet both my nuts that the buildings will still be standing in 7 years, never mind 7 days.

I'm with u on this mate

 

The original threads were full of the usual ace TVF Colorectal Examiners, tea money choristers, and brown envelope bots.

 

On July 31, 2013 EyesWideOpen said:

 

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Anybody who has been in Thailand for a while knows this building will

NOT be demolished. This threat is simply the endplay in extracting the

proper amount of money in a brown envelope....

 

But you can't win with a Chorister or a Bot. If it's not demolished, it's tea money. If it is demolished, it's lack of tea money. And of course it was built illegally in the first place because of tea money. In Tea Money We Trust.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 3, 2017 by JSixpack

[Jeremy50]

Is any other colour acceptable?