webfact Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Mother 'not responsible' for killing eight children in Australia An Australian woman who killed eight children in a stabbing attack at her home will not stand trial because she was of "unsound mind" at the time. Raina Thaiday was experiencing a psychotic episode when she turned on her four sons, three daughters and a niece in Cairns in December 2014. The legal decision - made last month but only now made public - means she cannot be held criminally responsible. Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-39777191 -- © Copyright BBC 2017-05-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 And people argue weed is harmless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Sorry Thechook......I must be missing the report that you read ---re Marijuana being responsible for this horrific episode.......could you link me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 56 minutes ago, oxo1947 said: Sorry Thechook......I must be missing the report that you read ---re Marijuana being responsible for this horrific episode.......could you link me to it. Dr Frank Varghese, one of two psychiatrists assisting Justice Dalton, said Thaiday's "apocalyptic delusional state" was one of the worst cases of schizophrenia he had ever seen. He said it may have been triggered by Thaiday's long-term cannabis usage, which only stopped months before the killings. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-04/mother-killing-eight-children-in-cairns-wont-face-criminal-trial/8489830 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Whatever the cause it is a complete tragedy and if the woman ever returns to her right senses then she will suffer greatly for what she did. I assume that although she cannot be held responsible she will be held accountable and kept under lock and key/supervision etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 "He said it "may" have been triggered by Thaiday's long-term cannabis usage, Thank you for the link simple1---it seems that the "May have" was not worth reporting in any other news outlet, so I had a problem finding it--possibly because of the opinions of all the other psychiatrists --who discounted this out of hand---again thank you for the link Several psychiatrists have spent the past two years trying to unpack what was going through Thaiday's head when she went on the rampage, early on December 19, 2014. One thing was abundantly clear, they say. She was not on drugs or affected by alcohol. She just simply had not understood what she was doing. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-04/cairns-children-killings-what-drove-raina-thaiday-slay-8-kids/8492742 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, simple1 said: Dr Frank Varghese, one of two psychiatrists assisting Justice Dalton, said Thaiday's "apocalyptic delusional state" was one of the worst cases of schizophrenia he had ever seen. He said it may have been triggered by Thaiday's long-term cannabis usage, which only stopped months before the killings. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-04/mother-killing-eight-children-in-cairns-wont-face-criminal-trial/8489830 One might conclude that she was "self medicating" with pot, and that when that stopped, she listened to the voices and killed the kids. If (and a big "if") there is a relationship, then the pot made her less likely to kill, not more likely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Why do people blame everything on Weed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jerry787 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 nothing to do with weed, medical weed also help to make people being more relaxed and cool down.... often there is always the bigot little officer or doctor blaming on weed and forgetting alcohol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketjock Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 2 hours ago, TheFishman1 said: Why do people blame everything on Weed Why do weed user blame everything on anything but weed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBsinter Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 47 minutes ago, phuketjock said: Why do weed user blame everything on anything but weed? Because sometimes you can get away with Murder................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 5 hours ago, oxo1947 said: "He said it "may" have been triggered by Thaiday's long-term cannabis usage, Thank you for the link simple1---it seems that the "May have" was not worth reporting in any other news outlet, so I had a problem finding it--possibly because of the opinions of all the other psychiatrists --who discounted this out of hand---again thank you for the link Several psychiatrists have spent the past two years trying to unpack what was going through Thaiday's head when she went on the rampage, early on December 19, 2014. One thing was abundantly clear, they say. She was not on drugs or affected by alcohol. She just simply had not understood what she was doing. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-04/cairns-children-killings-what-drove-raina-thaiday-slay-8-kids/8492742 ...she picked up a knife..hmm..she wasn't going to peel spuds..and she didn't peel spuds..i would say her intent was clearly expressed..maybe she has a diluted diminished responsibility as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwct Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 She was having a few joints with the neighbor in the evening. In the morning she had a few more before going out and looking for mushrooms. Then the neighbor came home and said lets cook some mushroom and weed brownies. Well, it;s history now! RIP to the children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney earl Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 WHAT A JOKE THIS DECISION IS.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I hate reading stories like this. People who do such heinous things - didn't just pop into existence the day before. They've been around for decades and have had mental illness issues for many years prior. Did any people who knew her speak up? If I have a neighbor or friend who exhibits homicidal tendencies, I'm going to speak up - possibly to authorities. People who know her are at least partially responsible for her horrible crimes. To take it a stop further: I've long advocated for laws which forbid dangerous people from procreating. I'm not talking just about edicts, but actual tube-tying. I'm fully in favor of forced tube-tying for any male/female over the age of 20 who proves (testimony from 2 or more experts) they are dangerous to their own offspring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 15 hours ago, Jerry787 said: nothing to do with weed, medical weed also help to make people being more relaxed and cool down.... often there is always the bigot little officer or doctor blaming on weed and forgetting alcohol.... She probably also drinks coffee, ingests sugar, and smokes tobacco. Are we going to also blame those drugs for her murderous behavior? No. She has a brain. If it's a sick brain which compelled her to murder, then acknowledge that. At the least, she should be locked up in solitary for the rest of her miserable life. Leave a razor and hangman's noose in her cell so she can take her own life when she wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 The article says nothing as to what will happen to her now. I hope she is confined for at least as long as if she had known what she was doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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