Chao Lao Beach Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 On 6/5/2017 at 4:03 PM, bheard said: Can't see that it's idiotic. What is idiotic is coming to Thailand as a tourist without travel insurance. Travel insurance is a waste for most seasoned travelers, however MEDICAL Insurance to cover you abroad is not. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Chao Lao Beach said: Travel insurance is a waste for most seasoned travelers, however MEDICAL Insurance to cover you abroad is not. Big difference. ??????????????????????????????? what a totally weird comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasg Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I agree. Travel insurance normally gives you very good medical cover. I was just having a look at the travel insurance that is provided by the Post Office in the UK. The usual baggage insurance, cancellation, losing cash/passport etc plus £5 million medical insurance. Standard policy for me and my wife, £118 for a month. I don't think I've ever seen a travel insurance policy that doesn’t include medical insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 33 minutes ago, rasg said: I agree. Travel insurance normally gives you very good medical cover. I was just having a look at the travel insurance that is provided by the Post Office in the UK. The usual baggage insurance, cancellation, losing cash/passport etc plus £5 million medical insurance. Standard policy for me and my wife, £118 for a month. I don't think I've ever seen a travel insurance policy that doesn’t include medical insurance. Sure, but they (?) want to make it compulsary for Thailand. How are they going to check the fine print (what are the exeptions)? I can't even understand the fine print in MY language.... If this would be enforced, it would only be a money maker for immigration officials and / or Thai insurance companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usacb500biker Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I am 75, no one will insure me, I am out of HERE...I will Die on my motorcycle at 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cletus Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, oldhippy said: Sure, but they (?) want to make it compulsary for Thailand. How are they going to check the fine print (what are the exeptions)? I can't even understand the fine print in MY language.... If this would be enforced, it would only be a money maker for immigration officials and / or Thai insurance companies. Nonsense. Usually you get an insurance card or a small paper print that sums up your insurance covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro69 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 hours ago, oldhippy said: Sure, but they (?) want to make it compulsary for Thailand. How are they going to check the fine print (what are the exeptions)? I can't even understand the fine print in MY language.... If this would be enforced, it would only be a money maker for immigration officials and / or Thai insurance companies. The hospitals checking that for you b4 they do any move, and once they learn your covered, they gonna milk the insurance company like there is no tomorrow. After a scooter crash last year, I got first patched up in the local governement hospital, 730 bath, including 2 x-rays. The same bill in the insuranced covered hospital run into 22000, they did nothing more than redo the patches, and put an displaced finger back in place. And on the top they put a to tight cast on which gets only better after almost a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 So if you have an accident or illness, your insurance company will pay for whatever hospital you go to, cheap government hospital or expensive private hospital? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I have international BUPA medical insurance. Why should I get travel insurance? Why should the Thai government be concerned if my plane is delayed, cancelled or if lose a camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 12 hours ago, melvinmelvin said: ??????????????????????????????? what a totally weird comment Nothing weird about it at all. I have travelled with medical insurance for years....never bothered with travel insurance. How much is it for 9 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 5 hours ago, jethro69 said: The hospitals checking that for you b4 they do any move, and once they learn your covered, they gonna milk the insurance company like there is no tomorrow. After a scooter crash last year, I got first patched up in the local governement hospital, 730 bath, including 2 x-rays. The same bill in the insuranced covered hospital run into 22000, they did nothing more than redo the patches, and put an displaced finger back in place. And on the top they put a to tight cast on which gets only better after almost a year. How long were you in hospital? How much were you out of pocket? If the insurance company accepted your claim..then no problem...All good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, oldhippy said: So if you have an accident or illness, your insurance company will pay for whatever hospital you go to, cheap government hospital or expensive private hospital? Depends on TnCs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnThailandJohn Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I am not sure why everyone is complaining. As a matter of responsibility, you should have insurance that works when in a foreign country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 In the UK most people get free travel insurance via their home insurance or it comes free with a bank account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnThailandJohn Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 9 hours ago, oldhippy said: Sure, but they (?) want to make it compulsary for Thailand. How are they going to check the fine print (what are the exeptions)? I can't even understand the fine print in MY language.... If this would be enforced, it would only be a money maker for immigration officials and / or Thai insurance companies. The same way auto insurance companies are licenced through a state and coverage must meet minimum criteria when issuing auto insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnThailandJohn Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Curious ... for those of you who live in places like the UK and Canada, where healthcare is guaranteed ... how do they handle foreign tourists needing medical care? Is it free, billed or do they require payment upfront? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmanly Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I buy travel insurance that covers me for unlimited medical only. All the add ons are non existent on the policy. I do this because I my clothes, camera and phone are worthless products and I am happy to replace these myself at cost. The medical is all I need. These policies are surprisingly quite cheap. I would never trust any Thai insurance that you would be forced to buy at the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, The manic said: Nothing weird about it at all. I have travelled with medical insurance for years....never bothered with travel insurance. How much is it for 9 months? yes it is weird, your comment also listen, Thailand receives tourists from all over the world, from myriad countries in Asia and the Pacific from both north and south America from myriad countries in Europe Arab countries Kaek countries African countries you two speak of med ins and trav ins as being standardized issues, homogeneous across the world what you call med ins wherever you come from does not necessarily match what is understood by med ins on Fiji you talk as if all insurance products in the world are structured in accordance with what you shop that is weird and it is very far from correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmanly Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I might also add, I have travelled to over 50 countries in my life time and not one has ever required me to have travel insurance. Why is Thailand the only country wanting this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmanly Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, JohnThailandJohn said: Curious ... for those of you who live in places like the UK and Canada, where healthcare is guaranteed ... how do they handle foreign tourists needing medical care? Is it free, billed or do they require payment upfront? In Australia they would be taken to a Public hospital and be treated immediately. Then they would be billed. Nothing to stop them flying out the next day and not paying though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadgw Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 The only thing that is BS is any foreigner who comes here as a tourist or to live / retire without having medical insurance cover.... gotta have rocks in their heads!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 52 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said: yes it is weird, your comment also listen, Thailand receives tourists from all over the world, from myriad countries in Asia and the Pacific from both north and south America from myriad countries in Europe Arab countries Kaek countries African countries you two speak of med ins and trav ins as being standardized issues, homogeneous across the world what you call med ins wherever you come from does not necessarily match what is understood by med ins on Fiji you talk as if all insurance products in the world are structured in accordance with what you shop that is weird and it is very far from correct Not at all. I have medical insurance. I think medical insurance is useful for all nationalities. I understand why the Thai government might have an interest in this area. I have no idea why they should be intersted in me or anybody else having insurance for delayed flights, for stolen items and for lost items. Travel insurance might include medical insurance but I believe many inexperienced travellers are using the wrong term. You might think I am weird but I do not need travel insurance. I need medical insurance. What is weird is accepting the daft idea that the Thai government want to force me to insure against lost luggage etc. May I ask what kind of insurance you have? You might find your house insurance covers you for lost and stolen items. You might find your bank gives you free travel insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, bmanly said: In Australia they would be taken to a Public hospital and be treated immediately. Then they would be billed. Nothing to stop them flying out the next day and not paying though. In Thailand they Take your passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, bmanly said: I might also add, I have travelled to over 50 countries in my life time and not one has ever required me to have travel insurance. Why is Thailand the only country wanting this? I think they mean medical insurance not travel insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, JohnThailandJohn said: Curious ... for those of you who live in places like the UK and Canada, where healthcare is guaranteed ... how do they handle foreign tourists needing medical care? Is it free, billed or do they require payment upfront? No. The NHS gets ripped off for millions every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmanly Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, The manic said: In Thailand they Take your passport. Maybe that's what we should do. No pay = no passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmanly Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, The manic said: I think they mean medical insurance not travel insurance. Then I will re phrase it, why is Thailand the only country that I have travelled too that is thinking about bringing in compulsory medical insurance? None of the other 50 + countries I have been to require this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 This is a year old post. No reason to dig it up unless you need posts ... sure its a job I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 hours ago, bmanly said: I might also add, I have travelled to over 50 countries in my life time and not one has ever required me to have travel insurance. Why is Thailand the only country wanting this? as far as I know; all Thais travelling to Europe (Schengen) need a visa, an insurance for the period of the visa must be shown before visa is issued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, The manic said: Not at all. I have medical insurance. I think medical insurance is useful for all nationalities. I understand why the Thai government might have an interest in this area. I have no idea why they should be intersted in me or anybody else having insurance for delayed flights, for stolen items and for lost items. Travel insurance might include medical insurance but I believe many inexperienced travellers are using the wrong term. You might think I am weird but I do not need travel insurance. I need medical insurance. What is weird is accepting the daft idea that the Thai government want to force me to insure against lost luggage etc. May I ask what kind of insurance you have? You might find your house insurance covers you for lost and stolen items. You might find your bank gives you free travel insurance. my point is; you say medical ins unqualified, we are here talking about maybe a hundred different countries, if not more, the term medical insurance does NOT mean the same across the board the same goes for the term travel ins me personally? I use travel insurance, have used the same company for 30 years and am quite simply very pleased. the medical coverage is excellent (limit less) and it does not bother me the least that my camera and mobile is insured for theft/loss, even if of no interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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