Jonathan Fairfield Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Extradition is now sought for a British national wanted for brutal murder of his Thai girl friend The Royal Thai Police is now in the process of seeking the extradition of a 47-year-old British national after he was arrested by Spanish police in Ibiza as he took his car to be serviced. Shane Looker from Stoke, England, was wanted in Thailand for the 2014 murder of a Thai girl, Laxami “Pook” Manochot in Tamuang district of Kanchanaburi province. He was the last person to have been in contact with her after her dismembered body was found in a suitcase thrown into the Mae Klong river in Kanchanaburi. The Thai police had a video footage from a CCTV capturing Mr Looker and Ms Pook leaving Nana Plaza in the red-light district of Bangkok. The Thai police later sought cooperation from Interpol to arrest him. Looker was the last known person to be seen with Pook on November 2, 2014. Police have DNA evidence connecting him to her murder. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/extradition-now-sought-british-national-wanted-brutal-murder-thai-girl-friend/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-06-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Father Fintan Stack said: If I were his defence lawyer the easiest way to avoid extradition would be to point out Section 44 and no country will extradite while the justice system is functioning under military government control. There's a line in the General Exclusions of every single car insurance policy issued in Thailand that says it does not cover loss and liability arising directly or indirectly from war, invasion, acts of foreign enemies, hostilities or warlike operations (whether war be declared or not), civil war, mutiny, rebellion, revolution, insurrection, military or usurped power... etc., etc.." All policies are still valid though. The only thing that buggers up extradition is if death penalties still apply in the country he is being extradited to. A simple assurance from the Thai authorities that he will not face the death penalty and he will be handed over. If he pleads guilty, he avoids the death penalty anyway. "Welcome Back, Kotter Looker." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 She was his girlfriend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: She was his girlfriend? Close enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: They have not taken DNA from Mr. Looker as far as we are aware so how can DNA (presumably from the victim's body) be matched? The police had a search warrant and visited the home of Mr. Looker in Hua Hin and found the shorts and t-shirts he was wearing on the same night as he was seen on CCTV with the deceased lady. DNA samples were taken from several items in the house and matched the DNA found under the vitcim nails. Not saying he is guilty, just waiting to hear what he has to say, as he stated 2 years ago that he did not kill her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laab Muu Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Give him the needle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Meanwhile in kalaland, extradition requests for a police killer have not been sent out yet...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laab Muu Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 10 hours ago, NanLaew said: The only thing that buggers up extradition is if death penalties still apply in the country he is being extradited to. A simple assurance from the Thai authorities that he will not face the death penalty and he will be handed over. If he pleads guilty, he avoids the death penalty anyway. The only person who can decide if someone is sentenced to death is the presiding judge in a trial. The other 'Thai authorities' have no jurisdiction in the matter. The only assurance that the Thai government can make is that he will be given a fair trial and not subjected to inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment. They have done it in the past with the Brit 'pibull' Thai boxer who stabbed and killed a former US marine in Phuket a few years ago. Some deal was obviously made, but only the trial judge can decide if the death penalty is handed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Quite vicious attack and dumping of body. Those three little girls may be old hands at this? You need more than just rocks. Like saw, chain saw, plastic, gloves, gown, knowledge of area, trust your taxi driver and to be a callous barsted. Thais are very suspicious of any falang with a suit case being thrown away? You would have to take the "Red Bull" clause in the law as it stands. With a death sentence in play, and the current history of how people are tried in capital crimes, do u think many countries would be sending people back to Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Laab Muu said: The only person who can decide if someone is sentenced to death is the presiding judge in a trial. The other 'Thai authorities' have no jurisdiction in the matter. The only assurance that the Thai government can make is that he will be given a fair trial and not subjected to inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment. They have done it in the past with the Brit 'pibull' Thai boxer who stabbed and killed a former US marine in Phuket a few years ago. Some deal was obviously made, but only the trial judge can decide if the death penalty is handed down. Sorry Laab Muu but i read different; 'Following a two year legal battle to avoid extradition to Thailand, Aldhouse was returned to Phuket last December on the condition that he would not face the death penalty.' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/10479926/British-kickboxer-gets-25-years-for-murder-of-US-Marine-in-Thailand.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: They have not taken DNA from Mr. Looker as far as we are aware so how can DNA (presumably from the victim's body) be matched? It might be so simple that he´s DNA is registered in connection to earlier crimes made. In that case they can have the result sent to them already. Edited June 11, 2017 by Get Real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Laab Muu said: The only person who can decide if someone is sentenced to death is the presiding judge in a trial. The other 'Thai authorities' have no jurisdiction in the matter. The only assurance that the Thai government can make is that he will be given a fair trial and not subjected to inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment. They have done it in the past with the Brit 'pibull' Thai boxer who stabbed and killed a former US marine in Phuket a few years ago. Some deal was obviously made, but only the trial judge can decide if the death penalty is handed down. Thanks for the full enlightenment there. As I said, Thai authorities = presiding trial judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickmouse1 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I thought they were finally getting the BOSS EXTRADITED?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahkit Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Don't they need to form a committee before they can apply for his extradition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Not much of a looker, is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 21 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: They have not taken DNA from Mr. Looker as far as we are aware so how can DNA (presumably from the victim's body) be matched? I get the impression that DNA these days is being used by Thai Plod as a way of making up for their many inadequacies and lack of real evidence in high profile cases (Kho Tao is the obvious example). If I were his defence lawyer the easiest way to avoid extradition would be to point out Section 44 and no country will extradite while the justice system is functioning under military government control. Ahhhh. you're a Insider. Why you will know, they have not the DNA of this Guy? Or is that just the usual rattle......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, blazes said: Not much of a looker, is he? he's a hansum looker in nana plaza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 11 hours ago, Laab Muu said: The only person who can decide if someone is sentenced to death is the presiding judge in a trial. The other 'Thai authorities' have no jurisdiction in the matter. The only assurance that the Thai government can make is that he will be given a fair trial and not subjected to inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment. They have done it in the past with the Brit 'pibull' Thai boxer who stabbed and killed a former US marine in Phuket a few years ago. Some deal was obviously made, but only the trial judge can decide if the death penalty is handed down. Sorry but do not believe so. The prosecutor brings the charges against the defendant and the judge and jury are limited to the charges brought against the defendant. Prosecutors and governments can make written agreements with foreign courts and countries to not seek the death penalty. It is the government/prosecutors right to pursue or waive charges for the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humqdpf Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Mickmouse1 said: I thought they were finally getting the BOSS EXTRADITED?????? They are looking like they are doing so, just in the same way as in the West End of London threatres every night someone on stage gets "murdered." It looks very convincing but at the end the "dead" person takes a bow at the curtain call. Lets wait until Boss is a) found b ) in a country that will extradite to Thailand c) Thailand actually makes the extradiction petition in the proper way according to the holding country's rules and laws d) the handover takes place and Boss is flown back to the Kingdom e) he is not given bail but kept in prison f) he is actually put on trial and g) he is found guilty and h) sentenced. So many steps, so much time. Maybe the statute of limitations will be gone over before we even pass c). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasanews Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Shall not kill, and the worst is body dismemberment is way too much. I hope he gets executed. Bad Karma will hunt him down for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laab Muu Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Boycie said: Sorry Laab Muu but i read different; 'Following a two year legal battle to avoid extradition to Thailand, Aldhouse was returned to Phuket last December on the condition that he would not face the death penalty.' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/10479926/British-kickboxer-gets-25-years-for-murder-of-US-Marine-in-Thailand.html Yes, I agree with you. As I stated in my post 'some sort of deal' was done, however whatever deal was done (unless it was regarding what charges would be brought) could not be legally binding, the only person involved in a trial who decides the penalty imposed on the defendant is the trial judge. 39 minutes ago, Wake Up said: Sorry but do not believe so. The prosecutor brings the charges against the defendant and the judge and jury are limited to the charges brought against the defendant. Prosecutors and governments can make written agreements with foreign courts and countries to not seek the death penalty. It is the government/prosecutors right to pursue or waive charges for the death penalty. Firstly you are correct that the public prosecutor brings the charges against the accused to court, and the charges brought will obviously ultimately effect the punishment that is handed down should the accused be found guilty, the public prosecutor can also petition the trial judge to pass the death penalty should the accused be found guilty. Secondly, there are no trials by jury in Thailand. Thirdly, the judge in the case is ultimately the person who sentences the guilty or exonerates the innocent. The judge is the ONLY person in the country who can pass sentence, there is no other authority in the kingdom who can tell a judge what sentence he can or cannot pass on in an individual case, the judge is only bound by the Thailand criminal code which sets out sentencing guidelines, Judges in Thailand can only be appointed and removed by the king. Here is a list of offences which can be punishable by death in Thailand. http://www.deathpenaltyworldwide.org/country-search-post.cfm?country=Thailand#f33-3 All of the above said, I AM NOT SAYING THAT A DEAL CAN'T OR WON'T BE MADE, i'm saying that any deal except on what charges will be brought can NOT be legally binding in Thailand because the only person who could make that deal would be the judge in the trial, and a judge is not appointed to the case until a trial date is set. I hope that has made my point-of-view clearer to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laab Muu Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Wake Up said: It is the government/prosecutors right to pursue or waive charges for the death penalty. The government, prosecutor or anyone else other than the judge does not have the jurisdiction to waive the death penalty. The only thing that they can do to avoid the death penalty being imposed is to bring lesser charges which do not carry the possibility of the death penalty, they do not decide the punishment, the judge follows the criminal procedure code of Thailand and can impose the death sentence if they see fit to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Extradited to Thailand, he better start packing his suitcase. No, don't, er, just bring a toothbrush. Phew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfdgfdfdgs Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) "DNA samples were taken from several items in the house and matched the DNA found under the vitcim nails." Well if he had sex with her and/or was in close contact with her, the girl would almost certainly get his DNA under her nails, wouldn't she, one way or the other. I'd imagine if mine and your gfs got their fingernails tested now, our DNA would be under there, but we didn't kill anybody, right? Not sure how that is reliable evidence, all it proves is she was with him for a while. If it's his blood, that changes things. Edited June 11, 2017 by dfdgfdfdgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkiwi Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 If it was just a take out from Nana what possible reason would someone have to cut her up....? Sheer lunacy?Hopefully they can drag this worthless pice of shxt back and give him what he deservs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 6/10/2017 at 6:18 PM, NanLaew said: Close enough. P 4 P one night stand, e.g., Hooker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfdgfdfdgs Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Body was found in Kanchanaburi. Who takes a girl from Nana to Kanchanaburi for one night. It's a 2-hour drive one-way in a private car and longer on the train or bus. So he was "the last known person to be seen with her" and that they have "DNA evidence" which consists of his DNA under her nails. And people on here are already assuming guilt and asking for his execution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Wilsonandson said: Extradited to Thailand, he better start packing his suitcase. No, don't, er, just bring a toothbrush. Phew! For a minute there I thought you said hairbrush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laab Muu Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 It gets worse for him, he's got Jason Coghlan representing him. Oh dear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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