Metropolitan police chief pledges fair probe into five deaths at CPF plant in Bangkok

[Jonathan Fairfield]

Metropolitan police chief pledges fair probe into five deaths at CPF plant in Bangkok

 

 

Bangkok’s police chief on Tuesday promised fairness to all parties involved in the investigation into the deaths of five people, including a veterinary student, at a chicken processing plant of listed agro-industrial and food conglomerate CPF last week.

 

Pol Lt-General Sanit Mahatavorn said he would take all things into consideration and base the probe on justice and fairness.

 

He was referring to widespread criticism that police might side with CPF in the investigation because it is a big company.

 

On Friday, a Chulalongkorn University student, on her third day of an educational visit to the CPF plant in Bang Na district, died after falling into a wastewater pond. Four CPF employees who tried to save her also died. 

 

Hydrogen sulphide, a poisonous colourless gas, may have contributed to their deaths. But questions remain about the cause of the incident.

 

Sanit said police were collecting evidence which they would compile with experts’ opinions to learn what actually happened. He declined to disclose information police obtained from interviews with witnesses, saying police needed evidence to back up any claims.

 

“We are looking into the details to establish who should be responsible for the criminal charge and civil charge in which employers have joint responsibilities with employees for damage to outsiders,” Sanit said.

 

Because of a lack of CCTV cameras at the scene of the accident, police have to be thorough in their investigation, he said.

 

Sanit also referred to the surrender of Preecha Tamporn, 51, the company’s chief of wastewater ponds. Preecha turned himself in about 4pm on Monday at Bang Na police station before being questioned for about four hours.

 

He was then charged with negligence, causing deaths, before being released on bail. The penalties are a jail term of not more than 10 years and a fine not exceeding Bt200,000.

 

Sanit said Preecha was at the area when the tragic accident happened. “I assigned police to check the factory plan to know every details of the crime,” he said.

 

The police chief added that the accident sent a signal to operators and factories to examine risk areas ensure maximum safety for everyone.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30319258

 

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-06-27

[rkidlad]

Who's this guy? He must be new.

 

Again, when the police have to come out and say stuff like "we'll catch the 'real' culprit" and "the investigation will be fair and persons guilty will be brought to justice" then you know something's up.

 

The police should really be suing themselves for defamation. They're implying that people don't trust them. 

[BigBadGeordie]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

 

Pol Lt-General Sanit Mahatavorn said he would take all things into consideration and base the probe on justice and fairness.

I am sure he will, but justice and fairness to whom?

[spidermike007]

A fair trial, would mean arresting, and charging the chairman, and CEO of this company for negligence. Will that ever happen? Of course not. Has that ever happened here? People in a position of great power, wealth, rank, or those that are well connected NEVER pay a price for their crimes here. NEVER. Little P. will expend every ounce of energy, to insure that, and to protect them. That is why he is in power. He is the ultimate protector, and gatekeeper. Do not upset the apple cart, please.

[colinneil]

Sanit says there will be a fair probe.

This from the man who gets monthly payments from large companies.

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

Metropolitan police chief and fair probe = oxymoron

[Briggsy]

The families of 188 victims still waiting for a fair investigation of the Kader toys fire 24 years on.

[klauskunkel]

6 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Pol Lt-General Sanit Mahatavorn said he would take all things into consideration and base the probe on justice and fairness.

What a sweet man, and a hard worker, too. Did you look up all these nouns?

[webfact]

Police vow fair CPF probe
By THE NATION

 

 

Employee charged with negligence amid concern Group will be let off by police

 

BANGKOK’S POLICE chief yesterday promised fairness to all parties involved in the investigation into the deaths of five people, including a veterinary student, at a chicken processing plant of listed agro-industrial and food conglomerate CPF last week.

 

Pol Lt-General Sanit Mahatavorn said he would take all things into consideration and base the probe on justice and fairness. He was referring to widespread criticism that police might side with CPF in the investigation because it is a big company.

 

On Friday, a Chulalongkorn University student, on her third day of an educational visit to the CPF plant in Bang Na, died after falling into a wastewater pond. Four CPF employees who tried to save her also died. 

 

Hydrogen sulfide, a poisonous colourless gas, may have contributed to their deaths. But questions remain about the cause of the incident.

 

Sanit said police were collecting evidence, which they would compile with expert opinions, to learn what had happened. He declined to disclose the information police had obtained from interviews with witnesses.

 

“We are looking into the details to establish who should be responsible for the criminal charges and civil charges, in which employers have joint responsibilities with employees, for damage to outsiders,” Sanit said.

Because of a lack of CCTV cameras at the scene of the accident, police had to be thorough in their investigation, he said.

 

Sanit also referred to the surrender of Preecha Tamporn, 51, the company’s chief of wastewater ponds. Preecha turned himself in about 4pm on Monday at Bang Na police station before being questioned for about four hours.

 

He was then charged with negligence causing deaths before being released on bail. The penalties are a jail term of not more than 10 years and a fine not exceeding Bt200,000.

 

Sanit said Preecha was in the area when the accident happened. “I assigned police to check the factory blueprint to know every detail of the crime,” he said.

 

The police chief added that the accident sent a signal to operators and factories to examine at-risk areas to ensure maximum safety.

 

Meanwhile, parents of a CPF employee, Pornsak Boonban, 40, who was among the five victims, said the corporation had already paid compensation of Bt3 million, but added that they would have preferred that their son was still alive.

 

“No matter how much money we receive, we do not want it in exchange for our son’s life,” Pornsak’s mother, Somta Boonban, 68, said during preparations for her son’s funeral in Chaiyaphum’s Konsawan district.

 

Somta said the family had been shocked by the accident, adding that Pornsak was the only family member working because the parents were too old to work.

 

“Pornsak worked to take care of the family. He sent home about B5,000 every month. The sum is enough for us to live,” Somta said.

 

In addition to the Bt3 million that CPF paid, victims’ families will also receive money from the Security Fund.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30319287

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-06-28

[Dobredin Ghusputin]

11 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

the company’s chief of wastewater ponds

 

Wow, they must've reached really high up in the ranks to pin it on the chief sh!t shoveller.

[Happyman58]

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

A fair trial, would mean arresting, and charging the chairman, and CEO of this company for negligence. Will that ever happen? Of course not. Has that ever happened here? People in a position of great power, wealth, rank, or those that are well connected NEVER pay a price for their crimes here. NEVER. Little P. will expend every ounce of energy, to insure that, and to protect them. That is why he is in power. He is the ultimate protector, and gatekeeper. Do not upset the apple cart, please.

Mike you are so right They got their man The Manager The owners are safe he will take the wrap they will not have to answer nothing

[Happyman58]

2 minutes ago, Dobredin Ghusputin said:

 

Wow, they must've reached really high up in the ranks to pin it on the chief sh!t shoveller.

When the good general said he would take everything into consideration he was looking at the size of the brown envelope to see if his cut would be good. Then he would consider if he wanted more

[JAG]

Am I alone in finding it ironic that theMetropolitan Police Chief himself has to go public and declare that the investigation will be fair?
.Surely that should be taken for granted?

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, Happyman58 said:

When the good general said he would take everything into consideration he was looking at the size of the brown envelope to see if his cut would be good. Then he would consider if he wanted more

 

Possibly. But not necessarily. I do not think that envelope is necessary, in the case of the wealthy, the powerful, the connected, and pretty much all active police officers, active army officers, and those currently in the administration. I think it is a given, that they will be protected, at all costs, and under nearly any circumstances. I believe that is a large part of why the little man was installed. To ensure their protection. Those people are always above the law. Those people live by a different set of rules, and the law is applied unevenly for them. And perhaps this is part of the reason Thailand still has tier 2 status, in the new report. Corruption continues to be rampant, despite protestations to the contrary by those in power. Most of us know better than to accept anything they say, at "face" value.

[atyclb]

investigation and outcome will be as fair as that of the red bull ferrari guy

[Srikcir]

16 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Thailand still has tier 2 status

It has Tier 2 Watch List status which is between Tier 3 and Tier 2.

Kind of giving credit for going through the motions to address human trafficking but reserving final judgement as to whether anything is actually done to significantly mitigate it.

[Retiredandhappyhere]

"Police vow fair CPF problem

 

Why does the Thai Government continually feel the need to tell us that their latest project is "transparent" and the police continually tell us that their latest investigation will be "fair", whereas most other Governments and their organisations do not seem to feel the same need.

 

Is it because the public in most other countries by and large take that as a given and also have an investigative Press which is likely to ask awkward and embarrassing questions, whereas in Thailand......................................

[spidermike007]

On 6/29/2017 at 2:10 AM, Srikcir said:

It has Tier 2 Watch List status which is between Tier 3 and Tier 2.

Kind of giving credit for going through the motions to address human trafficking but reserving final judgement as to whether anything is actually done to significantly mitigate it.

 

The primary issue appears to be the complete and utter unwillingness to charge any persons in a position of power, with a crime. Only small potatoes and people without connections or wealth are getting charged, such as an occasional fishing boat captain, etc. Nobody of any significant, current rank in the police, the army, or the administration is getting arrested. Nobody. So, there is still a real reluctance to solve this problem, despite protestations contrary to that, from the little man, and his foreign minister. They are not serious people, and they do not intend to improve the nation, if it gets in the way of the gravy train. No courage. No progressive minds at the top. 

 

Little P. - moving Thailand backwards at an alarming, and astonishing pace. 

[Happyman58]

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

The primary issue appears to be the complete and utter unwillingness to charge any persons in a position of power, with a crime. Only small potatoes and people without connections or wealth are getting charged, such as an occasional fishing boat captain, etc. Nobody of any significant, current rank in the police, the army, or the administration is getting arrested. Nobody. So, there is still a real reluctance to solve this problem, despite protestations contrary to that, from the little man, and his foreign minister. They are not serious people, and they do not intend to improve the nation, if it gets in the way of the gravy train. No courage. No progressive minds at the top. 

 

Little P. - moving Thailand backwards at an alarming, and astonishing pace. 

So true Mike  Is there such a thing as a fourth world country  I am sure Thailand would be one of them

[spidermike007]

18 minutes ago, Happyman58 said:

So true Mike  Is there such a thing as a fourth world country  I am sure Thailand would be one of them

 

30 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

The primary issue appears to be the complete and utter unwillingness to charge any persons in a position of power, with a crime. Only small potatoes and people without connections or wealth are getting charged, such as an occasional fishing boat captain, etc. Nobody of any significant, current rank in the police, the army, or the administration is getting arrested. Nobody. So, there is still a real reluctance to solve this problem, despite protestations contrary to that, from the little man, and his foreign minister. They are not serious people, and they do not intend to improve the nation, if it gets in the way of the gravy train. No courage. No progressive minds at the top. 

 

Little P. - moving Thailand backwards at an alarming, and astonishing pace. 

 

A quote from an article- Gen Prayut said he stressed at a cabinet meeting on Tuesday the need to take tough legal action against business operators and officials suspected of involvement in trafficking. 

That is an amusing quote, since he is adamant about not charging any officials for any crimes. Absolutely adamant. He will use every ounce of power, to protect these individuals, and that is part of the reason the country still has tier 2 status. Perhaps they truly deserve tier 3.

[YetAnother]

On 6/27/2017 at 5:52 PM, Jonathan Fairfield said:

widespread criticism that police might side with CPF in the investigation because it is a big company.

anyone want odds on this ?

[bamukloy]

44 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

 

A quote from an article- Gen Prayut said he stressed at a cabinet meeting on Tuesday the need to take tough legal action against business operators and officials suspected of involvement in trafficking. 

That is an amusing quote, since he is adamant about not charging any officials for any crimes. Absolutely adamant. He will use every ounce of power, to protect these individuals, and that is part of the reason the country still has tier 2 status. Perhaps they truly deserve tier 3.

I gotta commend posters like this, balls of brass really! 

Constant criticisms, naming individuals (which they could surely call defamation)

And all the brown paper bag BS of course no one has any proof of or actually seen.

 

Its amazing really to read all the criticism here and i wonder if all the farang crackdowns has come since people have started mouthing off on social media.

 

I dont agree with everything here either but i know that shutting up and not getting involved in things i cant change will certainly improove my chances of staying longer 

glad im on retirement extension