The poisonous Brother in Law

[jeab1980]

I cant blive ive just read  66 pages of complete and total drivel. Should have know better opening salvo dont bother commenting on good brothers in law.lol

[oldhippy]

30 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

I cant blive ive just read  66 pages of complete and total drivel. Should have know better opening salvo dont bother commenting on good brothers in law.lol

I know your apologist humourless drivel from many other threads, so your reaction does not come as a surprise.

Perhaps you should follow your own often repeated advise: If you don't like it, why stay?

 

[owl sees all]

36 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

 

I cant blive ive just read  66 pages of complete and total drivel. Should have know better opening salvo dont bother commenting on good brothers in law.lol

 

I can't believe you did either. If you had, you would realise what a great topic this has been for so many people here. It has certainly helped me with my prob's.

[jeab1980]

12 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

I know your apologist humourless drivel from many other threads, so your reaction does not come as a surprise.

Perhaps you should follow your own often repeated advise: If you don't like it, why stay?

 

Oh hello troll how are you. See you still use the same old same old then. Ps ive never said what you quoted old age is racking your one cell.

Edited August 27, 2017 by jeab1980

[jeab1980]

7 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

I can't believe you did either. If you had, you would realise what a great topic this has been for so many people here. It has certainly helped me with my prob's.

Great topic my backside thigh slapping more like

[owl sees all]

2 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

Great topic my backside thigh slapping more like

Maybe you have not experienced some of the prob's that regular posters have had. But for those of us that have felt own-in-the-dumps or worse then these "66 pages of complete and total drivel" have been a great help both with advice and empathy

[Rc2702]

Pay no attention to this guy. I doubt he can actually read 3 pages of anything let alone understand some of the real life experiences. I have read his drivel too. He called a teacher a loser for simply being honest, he condemns whole countries as unsafe should he have an infraction in them and seriously if he had read the whole 66 pages of different perspectives and all he can muster is those few words I'd be placing him next to the word troll in a dictionary. 

[Been there done that]

4 hours ago, Rc2702 said:

Pay no attention to this guy. I doubt he can actually read 3 pages of anything let alone understand some of the real life experiences. I have read his drivel too. He called a teacher a loser for simply being honest, he condemns whole countries as unsafe should he have an infraction in them and seriously if he had read the whole 66 pages of different perspectives and all he can muster is those few words I'd be placing him next to the word troll in a dictionary. 

Before or after yours ?

[Rc2702]

Just now, Been there done that said:

Before or after yours ?

S comes before T in the alphabet son.

 

Best regards

 

Superman.

 

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

On 26/08/2017 at 10:19 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Gordon Brown threw 6 billion quid into it, and it made no difference. The management, IMO, are the problem, as in my experience they never ventured into the workplace, had no idea of the reality, and probably didn't care as long as they were all right, Jack. Certainly, the manager of the hospital I worked at for 10 years was invisible and incompetent.

The politicians would rightly be too scared to make the requisite changes, so IMO it is going to be unsustainable and will collapse for financial reasons.

The hospital I worked at was blatantly angling to become more private than public, and the management would no doubt in my mind want to go fully private, so they could become very rich. The consultants already are, as they have their private patients.

Absolutely right!

But what can be done to save it?

I think it will be about as easy as eradicating corruption in Thailand (which sort of puts us back topic).

 

In 1942 the Beveridge Report was published (under Churchill's coalition), but I have not studied it enough to know what funding was proposed.

In 1948 I don't think the future funding was considered seriously either, with National Insurance contributions supposed to cover it as far as I have read. Please let me know better details if you have them.

Most Labour Governments since, including the current opposition, just want to throw more money at it because it gets the votes. If the left were actually interested in anything other than getting into power they would come up with a sensible solution, but the last lot, Bliar and B&B Gordan, just sold the buildings off, the same as they did with the UK gold reserves, at rock bottom price. The NHS is now saddled with paying the landlords and their maintenance crews huge sums. As you say gross mismanagement, but not just by the NHS.

 

Any Ideas?

We have seen the introduction of a compulsory Pension Plan introduced recently, and I think something like that could be a way forward. What do you think?

 

Anyway, thanks for an interesting discussion.

Cheers, G

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2017 by George FmplesdaCosteedback

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Wish you hadn't mentioned sausage rolls- can't find them here, along with tomato relish, powdered tomato soup or tinned spaghetti, all things I miss. Seems strange though, as they sell powdered mushroom soup and baked beans in tins in Big C.

 

Anyway, good to know that things are getting better, if slowly. Appreciate the NHS while it's still there, and don't forget to say thank you to any staff that help you. It's much appreciated by them.

Aussie NHS I guess, TDL has to deal with the UK NHS, but so far seems be to going well.

 

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

On 26/08/2017 at 10:23 PM, sandrabbit said:

I just remembered something I meant to mention to you from a long way back on this thread, you said you were a Hawkwind fan, my location is

 

 

If I previously posted this apologies, getting older gets in the way  ..........

 

 

Thanks for that.

Do you remember Van der Graaf Generator or Curved Air?

DTL said he didn't remember Caravan, Land of the Grey and Pink was classic.

Those were the days: Hair to my waist, hipster loon pants, Ace of Hearts T-shirt, platform boots and a white Afghan jacket.

Good job there are no pictures

I was on more medication then than I am now (joking of course).

 

G

 

 

[Odysseus123]

2 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Aussie NHS I guess, TDL has to deal with the UK NHS, but so far seems be to going well.

 

George,

Yes the Aussie NHS which is a state administered structure based on Medicare,with Federal oversight and funding.Hence the New South Wales Department of Health.

 

I deliberately chose a smaller regional hospital and health service rather than a large Sydney based one.

 

To repeat-and at the risk of sounding tiresome-make sure that you have adequate insurance/funds to cover you if things start to go medically wrong in Thailand.If you are elderly please check your policy for "pre-existing conditions" and"exclusions" as you can end up paying big and ever escalating premiums for basically nothing.

 

Just a friendly warning-that's all.

[jeab1980]

13 hours ago, Rc2702 said:

Pay no attention to this guy. I doubt he can actually read 3 pages of anything let alone understand some of the real life experiences. I have read his drivel too. He called a teacher a loser for simply being honest, he condemns whole countries as unsafe should he have an infraction in them and seriously if he had read the whole 66 pages of different perspectives and all he can muster is those few words I'd be placing him next to the word troll in a dictionary. 

And you my friend are a Troll. Who i might add no wont bother! your not worth it. Should be you your brother in law should be calling a waster.

Edited August 28, 2017 by jeab1980

[jeab1980]

17 hours ago, owl sees all said:

Maybe you have not experienced some of the prob's that regular posters have had. But for those of us that have felt own-in-the-dumps or worse then these "66 pages of complete and total drivel" have been a great help both with advice and empathy

Regular posters of ?  lol  dont make me laugh it the regular feeding frenzy or back slapping or the secret handshake posters you mean.

This by the way is about the actual thread 

"Poisonous brother in law" nothing to do with the miriad of off shoots its spawned.

Edited August 28, 2017 by jeab1980

[LannaGuy]

Wow this is still going?  hope all is well and the escape was made and all ended happily...  

[owl sees all]

10 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

Regular posters of ?  lol  dont make me laugh it the regular feeding frenzy or back slapping or the secret handshake posters you mean.

This by the way is about the actual thread 

"Poisonous brother in law" nothing to do with the miriad of off shoots its spawned.

The OP was about Thai families-in-law and their destructive nature.

 

It has wandered off into poster's personal dilemmas and dramas.

 

There have also been posts with some great music.

 

Most posts have been typed in with some undertanding of the family problems many face here in LOS. And all through this there is humour; dark at times but we are mostly able to laugh at ourselves and our predicaments.

 

Please join us J1980. You would be made very welcome. Spill the beans on your BIL probs. We might be able to help you.

[jeab1980]

16 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

The OP was about Thai families-in-law and their destructive nature.

 

It has wandered off into poster's personal dilemmas and dramas.

 

There have also been posts with some great music.

 

Most posts have been typed in with some undertanding of the family problems many face here in LOS. And all through this there is humour; dark at times but we are mostly able to laugh at ourselves and our predicaments.

 

Please join us J1980. You would be made very welcome. Spill the beans on your BIL probs. We might be able to help you.

I have 2 fantastic BIL's but op said in his opening salvo im not allowed to post that!. Most threads get shut down or warned for wandering off topic. This one hasnt wandered off topic its gone  3000miles away. 

If i had a problem with Visa's i would ask for advise on here and listen to the resident expert.( singular). If which i dont but if i had a problem related to my Family. Pink pigs would fly before i asked for advise of the biggest thai hating forum in Thailand.

However if i wanted to be a part of the TEAM and get an overwhelming endorsment off TV readers and posters regarding thai's being usless then yes i would post that on here.

Awaiting the oh my god hes a Thai appologist remarks. Bring them on boys.

[sandrabbit]

1 hour ago, jeab1980 said:

I have 2 fantastic BIL's but op said in his opening salvo im not allowed to post that!. Most threads get shut down or warned for wandering off topic. This one hasnt wandered off topic its gone  3000miles away. 

If i had a problem with Visa's i would ask for advise on here and listen to the resident expert.( singular). If which i dont but if i had a problem related to my Family. Pink pigs would fly before i asked for advise of the biggest thai hating forum in Thailand.

However if i wanted to be a part of the TEAM and get an overwhelming endorsment off TV readers and posters regarding thai's being usless then yes i would post that on here.

Awaiting the oh my god hes a Thai appologist remarks. Bring them on boys.

next one blocked ........

 

can't be bothered to listen to someone who comes on here just to pick arguments, must be better topics with more aggressive posters to respond to.

 

 

[sandrabbit]

7 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Thanks for that.

Do you remember Van der Graaf Generator or Curved Air?

DTL said he didn't remember Caravan, Land of the Grey and Pink was classic.

Those were the days: Hair to my waist, hipster loon pants, Ace of Hearts T-shirt, platform boots and a white Afghan jacket.

Good job there are no pictures

I was on more medication then than I am now (joking of course).

 

G

 

 

My brother just older than me was into most of them, I was more of a rocker but you have left a huge gap - the brilliant Camel.

[jeab1980]

14 minutes ago, sandrabbit said:

next one blocked ........

 

can't be bothered to listen to someone who comes on here just to pick arguments, must be better topics with more aggressive posters to respond to.

 

 

Good wont have to bother listening to you.

What you really meant was i dont like it when others have diffrent points of view. 

 

[owl sees all]

2 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

Most threads get shut down or warned for wandering off topic. This one hasnt wandered off topic its gone  3000miles away.

I must say J1980 that you make an interesting point here.

 

The OP has  deviated slightly from the first page of posting but the content has been stimulating. As for wandering off-topic for 3000miles; well that's an exageration. I aliken our thread to a river that has burst its banks and flooded the nearby fields. The rain stops and the water soon returns to the main course with even more nutriants to help us understand the Thai madness.

 

2 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

I have 2 fantastic BIL's but op said in his opening salvo im not allowed to post that!

One BIL is not around at the mo'. He has gone to town to see his big-breasted gf. His wife is - as I speak - hanging out the washing. He is the best of the three that I have the association with in Thailand.

 

Perhaps the OP didn't understand the message you were trying to put across J1980. Some contributions could be invaluable to us on this thread. 

 

Anyway, as long as you don't wander off-topic please feel free to contribute in your unique way.

Edited August 28, 2017 by owl sees all
added more content

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Absolutely right!

But what can be done to save it?

I think it will be about as easy as eradicating corruption in Thailand (which sort of puts us back topic).

 

In 1942 the Beveridge Report was published (under Churchill's coalition), but I have not studied it enough to know what funding was proposed.

In 1948 I don't think the future funding was considered seriously either, with National Insurance contributions supposed to cover it as far as I have read. Please let me know better details if you have them.

Most Labour Governments since, including the current opposition, just want to throw more money at it because it gets the votes. If the left were actually interested in anything other than getting into power they would come up with a sensible solution, but the last lot, Bliar and B&B Gordan, just sold the buildings off, the same as they did with the UK gold reserves, at rock bottom price. The NHS is now saddled with paying the landlords and their maintenance crews huge sums. As you say gross mismanagement, but not just by the NHS.

 

Any Ideas?

We have seen the introduction of a compulsory Pension Plan introduced recently, and I think something like that could be a way forward. What do you think?

 

Anyway, thanks for an interesting discussion.

Cheers, G

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ideas a plenty, G, but they don't listen to people that work in the system. They only commission hugely expensive reports that they ignore.

The seeds of the NHS disaster were sown from the very beginning when the government allowed consultants to treat private patients in the public hospitals. The, IMO, corrupt b'tards had to be bribed as some, IMO, care little for the common man and want to become rich. Having said that, some I knew were very nice, but all were doing very well financially. Not one supported the nursing staff when we were being treated badly by management.

In NZ they have separated public from private, but the consultants work in both and some play the system. We had one consultant that operated on unsuitable private patients, and when it all went wrong shipped them out to be cared for in the public system. Corruption is everywhere. I could tell enough horror tales about hospitals to fill a book, but no one is listening, no one cares ( till they end up in the system ).

 

NHS:

stop free routine operations and care for non citizens that never paid tax in Britain

go back to student nurse in hospital training. Work and learn apprentice system.

Employ 3 enrolled nurses per 1 registered nurse on wards. Nursing staff are apparently the single largest cost to the NHS. All registered nurses is insane, IMO.

go back to the basics that the NHS was created to do. Stop all voluntary surgery for anything that isn't life threatening eg plastic surgery for purely cosmetic reasons

cease operations that cost millions for hardly any patients. ie treat the maximum number of patients for the available money. Life is s*** and people die, even young ones, but the NHS isn't there to save everyone. Politicians shouldn't be allowed to dictate priorities.

Pass a law like in NZ that people can't sue for accidents etc, to stop ambulance chasing lawyers and frivolous lawsuits. ( See ACC New Zealand ).

 

Many more but enough to think about.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Thanks for that.

Do you remember Van der Graaf Generator or Curved Air?

DTL said he didn't remember Caravan, Land of the Grey and Pink was classic.

Those were the days: Hair to my waist, hipster loon pants, Ace of Hearts T-shirt, platform boots and a white Afghan jacket.

Good job there are no pictures

I was on more medication then than I am now (joking of course).

 

G

 

 

Wasn't the long hair a pain to look after? My ex spent so much time on hers.

 

I grew up when crew cuts were in and joined the military after school- no long hair for me, though I did think sideburns to the bottom of the ear were pretty cool.

 

Now of course, I have little hair to offend. Now, it grows faster in my nose and ears than on top of my head

[transam]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Wasn't the long hair a pain to look after? My ex spent so much time on hers.

 

I grew up when crew cuts were in and joined the military after school- no long hair for me, though I did think sideburns to the bottom of the ear were pretty cool.

 

Now of course, I have little hair to offend. Now, it grows faster in my nose and ears than on top of my head

We should create a nose hair club for rockers.......

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

14 hours ago, sandrabbit said:

My brother just older than me was into most of them, I was more of a rocker but you have left a huge gap - the brilliant Camel.

Yep I remember Camel. I was at heart a rocker, Stones are my all time favourites and I was/am a massive Zep fan.

That said there were lots of good bands I was happy to listen to when it was someone else changing the album on the record player. My mates always seemed to keep me busy with packet of Rizla and an album cover on my knees back then...

Cheers G

PS. I just had a look on Wiki for Camel, yes a good band indeed, and history shows a connection with Wishbone Ash (saw them a few times) and Caravan.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 28, 2017 by George FmplesdaCosteedback

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Wasn't the long hair a pain to look after? My ex spent so much time on hers.

 

I grew up when crew cuts were in and joined the military after school- no long hair for me, though I did think sideburns to the bottom of the ear were pretty cool.

 

Now of course, I have little hair to offend. Now, it grows faster in my nose and ears than on top of my head

Thanks for those posts. You have some excellent criticisms and  ideas that I wholeheartedly agree with.

Trouble is nobody is listening as you say. Ho hum.

 

Fairy Liquid "shampoo" every 3 days or so and a trim once every 2-3 months kept the hair okay. I cut it into a sort of "Rod Stewart" for my first real full time job in '74. I experimented with facial hair after that, but until I was about 30 always had a bald spot that had stopped me growing a Mexican mustache or good beard, but side burns were never a problem. They got me in the pubs at 15.

Still got some on my head, bit of a comb over at the back and all white now. Tweezers sort out the rest... Ouch!

Ha ha!

Cheers,

G

 

 

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

16 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

I have 2 fantastic BIL's but op said in his opening salvo im not allowed to post that!. Most threads get shut down or warned for wandering off topic. This one hasnt wandered off topic its gone  3000miles away. 

If i had a problem with Visa's i would ask for advise on here and listen to the resident expert.( singular). If which i dont but if i had a problem related to my Family. Pink pigs would fly before i asked for advise of the biggest thai hating forum in Thailand.

However if i wanted to be a part of the TEAM and get an overwhelming endorsment off TV readers and posters regarding thai's being usless then yes i would post that on here.

Awaiting the oh my god hes a Thai appologist remarks. Bring them on boys.

Time you found another playground...

I have no problems as yet with current family or BiLs, but had enough in the past to contribute on this thread.

 

"If you have nothing worthwhile to say, say nothing," somebody once said... Wise advice I think.

 

  sent off!

 

 

 

 

 

[Odysseus123]

Beautiful late winter's morning over here.I awoke to the dawn chorus of the birds in the trees and it is so clear that the mountains stand out in stark relief to the west and north.

It sure is a pretty town and a friend took me up to one of the local lookouts on Saturday so that I could check my bearings.

I had a great conversation with an aboriginal chap yesterday.He is an ex-boxer and his son had recently been to Thailand to learn Muay Thai.

 

Otherwise it is just resting and keeping my weight of the leg as much as possible.

 

I wonder what my 3 brothers in law are doing?Oh..ha..ha..ha..

[jeab1980]

3 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Time you found another playground...

I have no problems as yet with current family or BiLs, but had enough in the past to contribute on this thread.

 

"If you have nothing worthwhile to say, say nothing," somebody once said... Wise advice I think.

 

  sent off!

 

 

 

 

 

Self appointed god eh. Good job i dont listen to fools. I will say as i please on an open forum. We all have views but as mine differ from yours and other thai haters on here. The wolves forms in self defence. 

Edited August 29, 2017 by jeab1980