Officers sacked over illegal auction of Army cars

[HocusPocus67]

1 hour ago, YetAnother said:

If I was Thai and I saw the lack of punishment, I would also turn to all this misbehavior

 

 

And that, my friend explains why laws are ignored and the populace is dishonest and largely goes unpunished.

 

When there is no penalty for a spot of corruption or thievery or murder or assault, or stupid driving, then there is no disincentive for doing it. Thailand is a cess-pit with some pretty flowers around it to make it look attractive, but the longer you stay around it, the worse the smell seems.

[Cadbury]

8 hours ago, wow64 said:

The strongest action wassacking them. 

 

Here is an idea.. send them to jail.

wassacking, them? Wasn't sure what you meant. Did you mean asswhacking them?

[Ricardo]

And if wassacking fails, then promote them sideways, to become inactive police ?

[Golden Triangle]

Gawd, is nothing sacred here, I wish had tried this back in my time in the British Army, you can have any colour you like as long as it's Matt green and/or Black 

 

[greenchair]

Is this a case of. .....

Please help us get rid of these 1100 illegal cars owned by the army, but if you get caught. ....

We know nothing, you're on your own. 

[halloween]

Didn't ANYBODY notice this bit " The details of the cars, such as the engine and the identification numbers, did not match those of the Army, he said. "

 

They were selling cars which didn't belong to the RTA, most likely stolen, and using forged paperwork for provenance. If they were RTA vehicles, it would be a military crime, and they would be prosecuted by the military. Selling stolen civilian vehicles AS military cars is a civilian crime, for which they have been sacked from the RTA and will be prosecuted by civilian authorities.

[Chris Lawrence]

24 minutes ago, halloween said:

Didn't ANYBODY notice this bit " The details of the cars, such as the engine and the identification numbers, did not match those of the Army, he said. "

 

They were selling cars which didn't belong to the RTA, most likely stolen, and using forged paperwork for provenance. If they were RTA vehicles, it would be a military crime, and they would be prosecuted by the military. Selling stolen civilian vehicles AS military cars is a civilian crime, for which they have been sacked from the RTA and will be prosecuted by civilian authorities.

In any event Hall it should go thru the military court. That way no one will hear what happened.

[paz]

11 hours ago, futsukayoi said:

Also disgusting to let them keep all the gains.  Confiscate all their assets and those of any family / friends who gained.

All assets? Surely in the civil country you come from, asset seizure can't exceed presumed illicit profit?

[metisdead]

An off topic trolling post has been removed as well as the replies. 

[cardinalblue]

That many cars - huge internal cover up in the accounting/auditing depts....

 

fraud for personal gain of gov property should be a criminal offense...

 

cant only be fired...some people made a lot of money and should be held accountable for civil and criminal damages...

 

country too <deleted> soft/lenient 

[Laab Muu]

3 hours ago, halloween said:

Didn't ANYBODY notice this bit " The details of the cars, such as the engine and the identification numbers, did not match those of the Army, he said. "

 

They were selling cars which didn't belong to the RTA, most likely stolen, and using forged paperwork for provenance. If they were RTA vehicles, it would be a military crime, and they would be prosecuted by the military. Selling stolen civilian vehicles AS military cars is a civilian crime, for which they have been sacked from the RTA and will be prosecuted by civilian authorities.

Fake documents claimed to be pertaining to the military, fake signatures of high-up military persons on the documents claiming to sign vehicles off from the military for sale. If civilians are currently being prosecuted in military court in Thailand, then surely these military officers who were committing fraud, deception and theft based solely on their connection to the military should be prosecuted in a military court.

[parryhandy]

so if you bought one of these vehicles in good faith your now screwed ??

[Laab Muu]

6 minutes ago, parryhandy said:

so if you bought one of these vehicles in good faith your now screwed ??

Of course, they are stolen vehicles with fake documentation.

[kaorop]

 

1 hour ago, cardinalblue said:

That many cars - huge internal cover up in the accounting/auditing depts....

 

fraud for personal gain of gov property should be a criminal offense...

 

cant only be fired...some people made a lot of money and should be held accountable for civil and criminal damages...

 

country too <deleted> soft/lenient 

this is just low level stuff, of course the full scale stuff is rarely, if at all, heard of, to ingrained to entrenched, to protected. I've seen large properties seemingly privatized on military land.

[baboon]

17 hours ago, starky said:

Oooh they got sacked what a horrible punishment , obviously dont have military prisons or corporal punishment here..although it does mean missing out on a lot of ill gotten gains.

But isn't being stripped of the uniform and therefore their share of the take from the Garden of Plenty the real punishment? 

These guys are Officers so prison is not an option.

[fruitman]

14 hours ago, IAMHERE said:

No illegal cars; undocumented cars.

So the army sold undocumented cars by auction?

 

Where did those cars come from? Does the army get taxfree cars or so?

 

I still don't know what was wrong about this story, were they 1100 stolen cars or what?

[halloween]

7 hours ago, baboon said:

But isn't being stripped of the uniform and therefore their share of the take from the Garden of Plenty the real punishment? 

These guys are Officers so prison is not an option.

The term "officers" is routinely used here to describe military personnel of any rank. Besides that, the concept that all commissioned officers are gaining personal benefit from the military holding power, or that they are immune from incarceration, is from your imagination.

[Smarter Than You]

41 minutes ago, halloween said:

The term "officers" is routinely used here to describe military personnel of any rank. Besides that, the concept that all commissioned officers are gaining personal benefit from the military holding power, or that they are immune from incarceration, is from your imagination.

Remember ...

[Ace of Pop]

The term "officers" is routinely used here to describe military personnel of any rank. Beside that, the concept that all commissioned officers are gaining personal benefit from the military holding power, or that they are immune from incarceration, is from your imagination.

True enough, as in Farm Hands are Farmers First Aiders , are Doctors.


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[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, halloween said:

The term "officers" is routinely used here to describe military personnel of any rank. Besides that, the concept that all commissioned officers are gaining personal benefit from the military holding power, or that they are immune from incarceration, is from your imagination.

"Denying the truth doesn't change the Fact".

[billd766]

12 hours ago, baboon said:

But isn't being stripped of the uniform and therefore their share of the take from the Garden of Plenty the real punishment? 

These guys are Officers so prison is not an option.

 

It is not only being stripped of the uniform and decorations, but also the pension, possible promotion to a government civilian job and other benefits plus the enormous loss of face which would probably hurt the most.