HocusPocus67 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 hour ago, YetAnother said: If I was Thai and I saw the lack of punishment, I would also turn to all this misbehavior And that, my friend explains why laws are ignored and the populace is dishonest and largely goes unpunished. When there is no penalty for a spot of corruption or thievery or murder or assault, or stupid driving, then there is no disincentive for doing it. Thailand is a cess-pit with some pretty flowers around it to make it look attractive, but the longer you stay around it, the worse the smell seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, wow64 said: The strongest action wassacking them. Here is an idea.. send them to jail. wassacking, them? Wasn't sure what you meant. Did you mean asswhacking them? Edited July 2, 2017 by Cadbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 And if wassacking fails, then promote them sideways, to become inactive police ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) Gawd, is nothing sacred here, I wish had tried this back in my time in the British Army, you can have any colour you like as long as it's Matt green and/or Black Edited July 2, 2017 by Golden Triangle Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Is this a case of. ..... Please help us get rid of these 1100 illegal cars owned by the army, but if you get caught. .... We know nothing, you're on your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Didn't ANYBODY notice this bit " The details of the cars, such as the engine and the identification numbers, did not match those of the Army, he said. " They were selling cars which didn't belong to the RTA, most likely stolen, and using forged paperwork for provenance. If they were RTA vehicles, it would be a military crime, and they would be prosecuted by the military. Selling stolen civilian vehicles AS military cars is a civilian crime, for which they have been sacked from the RTA and will be prosecuted by civilian authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 24 minutes ago, halloween said: Didn't ANYBODY notice this bit " The details of the cars, such as the engine and the identification numbers, did not match those of the Army, he said. " They were selling cars which didn't belong to the RTA, most likely stolen, and using forged paperwork for provenance. If they were RTA vehicles, it would be a military crime, and they would be prosecuted by the military. Selling stolen civilian vehicles AS military cars is a civilian crime, for which they have been sacked from the RTA and will be prosecuted by civilian authorities. In any event Hall it should go thru the military court. That way no one will hear what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 11 hours ago, futsukayoi said: Also disgusting to let them keep all the gains. Confiscate all their assets and those of any family / friends who gained. All assets? Surely in the civil country you come from, asset seizure can't exceed presumed illicit profit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 An off topic trolling post has been removed as well as the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 That many cars - huge internal cover up in the accounting/auditing depts.... fraud for personal gain of gov property should be a criminal offense... cant only be fired...some people made a lot of money and should be held accountable for civil and criminal damages... country too <deleted> soft/lenient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laab Muu Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 3 hours ago, halloween said: Didn't ANYBODY notice this bit " The details of the cars, such as the engine and the identification numbers, did not match those of the Army, he said. " They were selling cars which didn't belong to the RTA, most likely stolen, and using forged paperwork for provenance. If they were RTA vehicles, it would be a military crime, and they would be prosecuted by the military. Selling stolen civilian vehicles AS military cars is a civilian crime, for which they have been sacked from the RTA and will be prosecuted by civilian authorities. Fake documents claimed to be pertaining to the military, fake signatures of high-up military persons on the documents claiming to sign vehicles off from the military for sale. If civilians are currently being prosecuted in military court in Thailand, then surely these military officers who were committing fraud, deception and theft based solely on their connection to the military should be prosecuted in a military court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parryhandy Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 so if you bought one of these vehicles in good faith your now screwed ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laab Muu Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, parryhandy said: so if you bought one of these vehicles in good faith your now screwed ?? Of course, they are stolen vehicles with fake documentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 hour ago, cardinalblue said: That many cars - huge internal cover up in the accounting/auditing depts.... fraud for personal gain of gov property should be a criminal offense... cant only be fired...some people made a lot of money and should be held accountable for civil and criminal damages... country too <deleted> soft/lenient this is just low level stuff, of course the full scale stuff is rarely, if at all, heard of, to ingrained to entrenched, to protected. I've seen large properties seemingly privatized on military land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 17 hours ago, starky said: Oooh they got sacked what a horrible punishment , obviously dont have military prisons or corporal punishment here..although it does mean missing out on a lot of ill gotten gains. But isn't being stripped of the uniform and therefore their share of the take from the Garden of Plenty the real punishment? These guys are Officers so prison is not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 14 hours ago, IAMHERE said: No illegal cars; undocumented cars. So the army sold undocumented cars by auction? Where did those cars come from? Does the army get taxfree cars or so? I still don't know what was wrong about this story, were they 1100 stolen cars or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 7 hours ago, baboon said: But isn't being stripped of the uniform and therefore their share of the take from the Garden of Plenty the real punishment? These guys are Officers so prison is not an option. The term "officers" is routinely used here to describe military personnel of any rank. Besides that, the concept that all commissioned officers are gaining personal benefit from the military holding power, or that they are immune from incarceration, is from your imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarter Than You Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 41 minutes ago, halloween said: The term "officers" is routinely used here to describe military personnel of any rank. Besides that, the concept that all commissioned officers are gaining personal benefit from the military holding power, or that they are immune from incarceration, is from your imagination. Remember ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 The term "officers" is routinely used here to describe military personnel of any rank. Beside that, the concept that all commissioned officers are gaining personal benefit from the military holding power, or that they are immune from incarceration, is from your imagination.True enough, as in Farm Hands are Farmers First Aiders , are Doctors.Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 hours ago, halloween said: The term "officers" is routinely used here to describe military personnel of any rank. Besides that, the concept that all commissioned officers are gaining personal benefit from the military holding power, or that they are immune from incarceration, is from your imagination. "Denying the truth doesn't change the Fact". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 12 hours ago, baboon said: But isn't being stripped of the uniform and therefore their share of the take from the Garden of Plenty the real punishment? These guys are Officers so prison is not an option. It is not only being stripped of the uniform and decorations, but also the pension, possible promotion to a government civilian job and other benefits plus the enormous loss of face which would probably hurt the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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