Can Now Get Extra AIS Playboxes...Max 3 Spots

[Pib]

3 hours ago, SooKee said:

I use the Minix A2 Lite.  IIRC it's a Lazada 'ships from overseas' item (direct from Minix I suspect) but COD is still available.  I actually use mine with the Playbox now and have pulled it from the Shield as I find I don't need it, esp as Kodi 17 is much more TV remote friendly. It's useful as it has enter and mute buttons which do work with the Playbox.  I think the airmouse is much more useful then these keyboards, I know a few folks that bought them, they now sit a drawer.  Grabbing something the size of an air mouse much more couch friendly than a keyboard IMO. I do find that being wifi it's also much more responsive even when used as the D pad controller for the Playbox.  I sometimes find the AIS Playbox controller a bit unresponsive.  Only thing is, unlike say when used with a Fire TV, the remote doesn't wake the device with a click of the Home button.  Might have a play over the weekend just to see if there's any settings that might allow that to happen, anything to save the multi remote juggling when turning it on .

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/minix-neo-a2-lite-59-7201127.html?spm=a2o4l.search.0.0.nfpvhj&ff=1

 

As far as possible I try to use Android TV version apps on these boxes as I much prefer the simpler navigation.  Trouble is it's getting hard to differentiate now as more developers seem to be using these smart install APKs that configure per the type of box they are used on, vs having distinct ATV / Mobile versions, such that you can't find ATV specific apps in some cases (I did manage to find and download the MyTuner ATV APK though).  iFlix is one of those apps as is HooQ.  On a real ATV box they'll configure fine for ATV navigation and display.  Thing is, the Playbox and Fire TVs display in an ATV style, and with their own apps can do a good job it mimicking the OS, any other app though will detect the box as an Android Mobile  device and install in the mobile configuration.  AFAIK YouTube is one of the apps that still has an ATV version and V2 of the app actually works very nicely (now that's one that DOES install in an ATV style on the Fire TV, likely because it's a Amazon App store specific version).  I plan try to seek out that Amazon App Store version with and see if an APK extractor will help these apps configure on a Playbox as they would on a Fire TV.

Thanks for the feedback.   Shortly after reading above I went to a local mall to do a grocery run with the wife...figured I would also go to the IT stores section of the mall while she gets groceries.  I bought a Logitech K400 Plus wireless keyboard for Bt1390 at IT City...it has an English and Thai lettering keyboard.  It was on sale from the normal price of a little under Bt1700 (PowerBuy and BananaIT had them for Bt1690).   Since my research over the last few days of wireless keyboard reviews/recommendations where the Logiteck K400 consistently got very good reviews/ranking, I bought one.  Came home...hooked it up....works like a charm....no more YouTube navigation problems.  And the K400 navigates around the Playbox launcher/menus just fine also.  Just from using the K400 for around 30 minutes I can already understand why it gets high marks in terms of "just feeling good in the hands, light, seems really sturdy, just works, etc.    Just before buying at IT City I pulled it up on Lazada and it was going for just under Bt1400 and had like a 4.8 out of 5 review rating....almost everyone gave the K400 Plus a 5 star rating.

 

I checked Google Play for Youtube ATV, found it, it's version 1.3.11, but it's incompatible will all my devices to include the Playbox.  Just to confirm you downloaded the Youtube APK Ver 2 from another site and did a side load?...and also haven't tried it on the Playbox yet?   Thanks.

 

 

 

 

[Pib]

I just tried to sideload Youtube Android TV Ver 2.00.10 dtd 21 Jul 17 and it would not install.  Once clicking install it would try for a few seconds and then say App Did Not Install.  Guess that's its way of saying the app is non-compatible with the Playbox.   But no biggie, the Youtube version downloaded/installed from Google Play installs/works and now that I have a wireless keyboard navigating around Youtube is easy....pretty much just like using YouTube on my computer.

 

http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/youtube-for-android-tv-android-tv/

Edited July 27, 2017 by Pib

[SooKee]

Yeah if I was going for a keyboard the K400 would be the one. I just like the pointer on the air mouse and the more handy feel of it. It can work the same as the Playbox remote with the D pad controls and the buttons work the same. Flip on the fly switch and you have the pointer too. Turn it over and you get the keyboard. It's whatever suits you most. I do know some folks who have both.

Not sure what the problem is with the You Tube ATV version. Yes my comments on it are regarding the Playbox. I downloaded it from apkpure. I then sent it to the PB using Send Anywhere which I have installed on all my boxes and on my laptop. Much easier I find then using the file tx options in the various explorers. Once it had been received by the SE on the PB I just clicked the icon and it installed fine.


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[Pib]

Can you check to see specifically what version of Youtube ATV you loaded on the new Playbox....it mean right out to the last digit of the version number.   As mentioned when I tried to load the latest & great version (as of today) of ver 2.00.18 it would try to install but fail.  

 

So, I then downloaded ver 2.00.17 which was initially released just a few days before ver 2.00.18 came out.  

 

Now ver 2.00.17 was offered in two variants....one for arm and one for arm64.   I downloaded the "arm" variant vs the arm64 variant....wanted to give the arm variant a try since 2.00.18 was identified as an arm64 variant.  Anyway, ver 2.00.17 for arm installed no problem.    Played with it for about 30 minutes...definitely different than the Youtube mobile version.    

 

And one more question:  Did you have the standard Youtube mobile version already loaded on your Playbox when doing the install of the Youtube ATV?   Just wondering if having the Youtube mobile version installed had something to do with ver 2.00.18 failing to install.   Although Ver 2.00.18 is identified as arm64 I thought it might install an arm version of itself but maybe not....maybe a person needs to know if their device is arm or arm64 or x86 and ensure they get the right kind of APK when doing a side load.   I've done few sideloads over the years as I just stuck to Google Play to automatically feed me/identify what will work on my device and what won't.  Now I have two Youtubes loaded....the standard Youtube mobile version and the Youtube ATV version.

 

http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/youtube-for-android-tv-android-tv/youtube-for-android-tv-android-tv-2-00-17-release/

 

 

Edited July 27, 2017 by Pib

[Pib]

OK, I think I've figured out why Youtube ATV ver 2.00.18 would not load on the Playbox.   It's because the new Playbox is based on the "ARM" instruction set and not the ARM64 instruction set.  So, when I do APK downloads to sideload I need to ensure I get an APK written for the ARM instruction set....and not an ARM64 or X86 instruction set....if the APK doesn't come with the ability to run/use/install the appropriate instructions set automatically.  

 

With Google Play it ensured you got the correct instruction set version to run on your Android device....that is, the appropriate instruction set version.  If no appropriate instruction set version then Google Play would just tell you there is no version available for your machine/you device is incompatible.

 

Below is a snapshot of my Playbox info when it show the instruction set(s) it can use...which are "ARM" instruction sets.

 

And some websites talking various Android Instruction Sets

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/android-basics-see-what-kind-processor-you-have-arm-arm64-x86-0168051/

https://developer.xamarin.com/guides/android/application_fundamentals/cpu_architectures/

https://androidbycode.wordpress.com/tag/armeabi-v7a/

 

Snapshot of my Playbox Showing Instructions Sets It Supports

[SooKee]

Late reply as I was out last night.  

 

The Playbox is actually an ARM 64 device (or at least mine is) but it lists the 32 bit ABIs it supports also.  I use the AIDA64 app on all my devices for spec details, I find it more informative than most.  It's certainly important to know what type of device you have to make sure you don't DL and X86 app for an ARM device but, in terms of ARM devices, in simple terms without getting into the ABIs, it's only critical in one instance:

 

• ARM on ARM device: OK
• ARM64 on ARM device: Not compatible
• ARM on ARM64 device: OK
• ARM64 on ARM64 device: OK

 

I have the 'com.google.android.youtube.tv_2.00.17-20017320' version which is ARM and yes I also have the regular mobile app installed.  By default I watch the TV app.  I use the Mobile app only when I need to interact with it in a way the TV app doesn't make easy, but the new TV app is much better than it was so I find I use the mobile app rarely, albeit I do prefer the notifications about subscribed channels on the mobile version which are non-existent on the ATV version.

 

For those considering the Minix A2 Lite Mouse for Android mobile app navigation, the buttons pretty much all work as per design.  Pretty much the standard comment across review sites with all Android STBs - an air mouse is pretty much a must buy.  With the Shield I use the small standard remote almost exclusively now, with the Playbox I use the Air-mouse for everything once I've turned the box on.  I prefer the A2 Lite over the A2 and the A3 as I find the 'Mute' and 'Enter' keys more useful than 'Settings' and 'Microphone'.  Very good video here (and one of the best  Android STB sites in general IMO) about remotes:  

 

 

 

Wifi: Much more responsive than the Playbox IR remote and doesn't need to be pointed at the box

Mute button: Works

All Open Apps: N/A (not in use on PB launcher)

Menu: Works (opens TV Guide)

Home: Works (returns to Playbox Launcher Home Screen)

D Pad (up/down/L/R): Works

OK: Works

Back: Works

Enter: Works (with apps requiring text entry and 'Enter' to finalise)

Fly Mode (Mouse pointer): Works (but default speed is set to maximum on box Advanced Settings - need to reduce)

Vol +/-: Works

Play / Pause / FF / RW /: Works as programmed by app, if not programmed, use D pad.

 

If I had one thing to complain about with the Playbox it would be the TV Guide which is absolutely CRAP IMO.  Real PITA to use.  Biggest problems is it always opens on the same channel and  scrolling through the countless channels of crap is a real PITA, the problem is made worse given that there's no way to set up a favourites listing so you can quickly skim through the channels you watch.  That aspect of it needs a serious amount of work.

 

Edited July 28, 2017 by SooKee

[Pib]

Sookee,

   Great post.  

 

   Yeap, the new Playbox uses a 64 bit processor with 64 bit processor instructions, but the associated Application Binary Interface (ABI) used is 32 bit.  Or said another way, although the Playbox has a 64 bit processor any App you want to install/run needs to be based on 32 bit binary code which means a person must use Apps written for ARM (32 bits)....not ARM64 (64 bit) or other standards like X86, X86-64, etc.  

 

Somewhat different (but still similar) from Windows where if you had a 64 bit processor you could install either the 32 or 64 bit version of Windows OS and depending on which bit version of Windows your loaded you could then run 64 bit and/or 32 bit applications.   That is, 32 or 64 bit apps on a 64 bit CPU with Win 64 bit....32 bit apps only on a 64 bit CPU with Win 32 bit loaded.  But apparently in the world of Android a person also needs to worry about which "ABI Instructions set" the processor architecture was developed for like a 64 bit processor developed for 32 bit ABI Instructions instead of 64 ABI instructions.

 

Hurts my head trying to understand the differences and makes me appreciate Google Play more in how it automatically looked at the device you want to install a certain app on and then determined if that particular app available from Google Play was written to install/run on your particular device.  Like when I wanted to install Android TV from Google Play but Google Play said no-can-do/you machine is not compatible I expect it was really saying the particular Android TV app we have for download is not written to work with ARM ABI....it was probably ARM64 ABI.    

 

Anyway, I now know when I'm not using Google Play to get my apps for my Playbox and instead downloading the app from some APK download site for sideloading I need to always download the version written to work with ARM, not ARM64 or other variant.

 

Partial quote from a website talking ABI (e.g., ARM, ARM64, etc) and interface with your device's hardware whether it a 32 or 64 bit processor device.

https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/abis.html

 

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ABI Management

Different Android handsets use different CPUs, which in turn support different instruction sets. Each combination of CPU and instruction sets has its own Application Binary Interface, or ABI. The ABI defines, with great precision, how an application's machine code is supposed to interact with the system at runtime. You must specify an ABI for each CPU architecture you want your app to work with.

 

 

[suzannegoh]

Is it possible to reflash the AIS Playboxes such that they run as any other Android box, without the propriety stuff that AIS loads the box with to lock it to their network?

[Pib]

1 hour ago, suzannegoh said:

Is it possible to reflash the AIS Playboxes such that they run as any other Android box, without the propriety stuff that AIS loads the box with to lock it to their network?

I wouldn't have a clue but if you could I bet if you were still trying to use the Playbox on the AIS Fibre network it wouldn't work to receive the AIS IPTV/Movies anymore since the AIS Fibre servers wouldn't see the expected settop box firmware/AIS software.

[suzannegoh]

23 minutes ago, Pib said:

I wouldn't have a clue but if you could I bet if you were still trying to use the Playbox on the AIS Fibre network it wouldn't work to receive the AIS IPTV/Movies anymore since the AIS Fibre servers wouldn't see the expected settop box firmware/AIS software.

it would be acceptable for it to not work to receive the AIS IPTV/Movies because I can get all the English language IPTV and movies that I need just by installing Kodi on the box. 

[Pib]

7 minutes ago, suzannegoh said:

it would be acceptable for it to not work to receive the AIS IPTV/Movies because I can get all the English language IPTV and movies that I need just by installing Kodi on the box. 

You are probably talking flashing the old/original box with runs Android 4.4.2, right?   I expect trying to flash the box to a later Android version say of Android 5 or 6 if would be challenging because various Android version as always tweaked to match a boxes hardware in order to get it to run right.

 

If you wanted to run the latest Kodi 17.X (if nothing else but for security/bug reasons) then you just need to upgrade your old box to the new box since Kodi 17 needs at least Android 5.0 and the new Playbox comes with Android 6.0.  Upgrade cost is Bt650...AIS takes your old box and gives you a new box....and as you read the new box is a lot more response/fast than the old box.

[Pib]

9 hours ago, SooKee said:

I have the 'com.google.android.youtube.tv_2.00.17-20017320' version which is ARM and yes I also have the regular mobile app installed. 

 

 

I was doing some file downloads cleanup and noticed the Youtube ATV APK files I had downloaded earlier even included in the file name the ABI (i.e., ARM, ARM64) the APK is written for.

 

Below I circled the ABI info in the file APK file name.   As discussed Ver 2.00.17 written for API ARM boxes works on the Playbox; but the very latest Youtube ATV version 2.00.18 is written for ARM64 and does not work on the Playbox.

 

 

And thanks for the info on the remotes.   In the few  IT type stores like ITCity, BananaIT, PowerBuy, and similar stores  I've looked in over here in western Bangkok they simply don't sell Android remotes.  No problem in finding a wireless keyboard that works with Android in these stores, but they just don't carry Android box remotes.   Guess a person needs to order on online.  

 

The Minix A2 or A2 Lite remote is definitely a good choice.  I had already been leaning towards that remote based on my googling over the last few days and the youtube video you gave above just reconfirms what I had seen in other reviews about the Minix remote.  Thanks.

 

 

[suzannegoh]

28 minutes ago, Pib said:

You are probably talking flashing the old/original box with runs Android 4.4.2, right?   I expect trying to flash the box to a later Android version say of Android 5 or 6 if would be challenging because various Android version as always tweaked to match a boxes hardware in order to get it to run right.

 

If you wanted to run the latest Kodi 17.X (if nothing else but for security/bug reasons) then you just need to upgrade your old box to the new box since Kodi 17 needs at least Android 5.0 and the new Playbox comes with Android 6.0.  Upgrade cost is Bt650...AIS takes your old box and gives you a new box....and as you read the new box is a lot more response/fast than the old box.

Yes, I'm  talking flashing the old/original box with runs Android 4.4.2,   I'm primarily using a M8S+ box purchased from Lazada and I would up having two AIS boxes that I'm presently not using.  If I could reflash them I might put them to use for something, or give them to a friend who isn't on AIS and doesn't have an Android box, but considering that you can buy a perfectly good (and rooted) Android box for <2000 baht I wouldn't be inclined to spend any money to update the AIS boxes.

 

About Kodi 17, you are correct that it won't run on the AIS boxes that I have.  I've installed Kodi 16.1 on the and on my M8S+ box.  I like 16.1, it's been very stable for me.

Edited July 28, 2017 by suzannegoh
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[Pib]

I see AIS has just come out with a new plan called AIS Fibre Power4 Package where you can get AIS Fibre up to 200/50 (notice the upload speed increase from the previous 10Mb), TV to include the Platinum channels and the HooQ, Mobile Post Paid, and AIS Wifi.

 

Full details at their website

http://www.ais.co.th/fibre/power4pack/en/index.html

 

 

 

[elfpattaya]

I have been in contact with AIS, and allegedly the Power 4 package is available to existing customers from August 10th.

A little warning, I got a similar package with True years back and my international coverage deteriorated quite badly. So bad that I went back to my original True package.

 

[SooKee]

I see AIS has just come out with a new plan called AIS Fibre Power4 Package where you can get AIS Fibre up to 200/50 (notice the upload speed increase from the previous 10Mb), TV to include the Platinum channels and the HooQ, Mobile Post Paid, and AIS Wifi.
 
Full details at their website
http://www.ais.co.th/fibre/power4pack/en/index.html

 
 
 

Dang. That's a blow. 50/20 with Platinum just 799, 500 less than the special offer I just upgraded to. Oh well. AIS giveth and AIS taketh away 55555.


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[Pib]

9 hours ago, elfpattaya said:

I have been in contact with AIS, and allegedly the Power 4 package is available to existing customers from August 10th.

A little warning, I got a similar package with True years back and my international coverage deteriorated quite badly. So bad that I went back to my original True package.

 

 

Yea, the AIS webpage in the earlier post has that in the notes which says:

 

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  AIS Fibre customers can change the promotion from the day Aug 10, 2017 onwards

   

 

Also for the Post Paid Mobile account,although you have unlimited access (I guess this means GB usage per month) the 4G/3G max speed is limited to 1Mb, 4Mb, or 6Mb depending on which Power4 speed plan you sign up for... I expect some folks who just gotta have the fastest 4G/3G speed would not be happy with this.  And calls per minute are 1.5 baht, 2 baht per SMS, 3 baht MMS.

 

But for person who just wants to do basic interneting on his mobile devices and occasionally make a few calls, this should be a good deal since the monthly mobile costs under this plan should be really low....I guess "no cost" if you didn't make any calls....and only a few baht if you only initiated one or two short calls during the month....and I guess all incoming calls would be free as normal.

 

Yea, there are a bunch of notes at the bottom the webpage that do a  pretty good job of describing the details.  

 

The Power4 plan could be a good plan for a lot of people especially if they don't make a lot of calls (like me),  don't do in heavy-duty interneting needing high speed when on a 4G/3G connection (like me), but do a lot interneting/video streaming from their home on their AIS Fibre line (like me).

 

http://www.ais.co.th/fibre/power4pack/en/index.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SooKee]

Excellent deal I'd say. At the moment I pay around 400 pm for 20 GB Data (I use nowhere near that but it was the promo at the time) and 1,300 fibre / Platinum. Total 1,700. Even if you made a boat load of calls it wouldn't rack up to 900 baht. Still it's the nature of promotions I guess. Often a better one round the corner. As you say I'd also have to check the small print to see what the service reductions might involve. Of course with all these offers you can switch provided you're going up in terms of speed / cost, of you're coming down there would likely be penalties or just no cannot.


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[shady86]

I'm not sure if you guys read the details for the 50/20 package, they platinum package is free only for first 3 months. As for the free Sim, I dont find it useful because it's capped at 4mbps. I would consider to try this even though I'm satisfied with my 75mbps broadband package now at 799 per month

[SooKee]

55555. I certainly didn't. Just the banner ad above. The SIM wouldn't suit me either. I travel a fair bit and use the SIM to stream Netflix / iFlix / AIS Play to an Apple TV plugged in to wherever I'm staying.

 

Certainly makes me feel better about my 'deal' :)

 

 

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[elfpattaya]

When I had the package with True, I was getting Bills for on average 200 Baht per month for the post paid Sim, I hardly use the phone (no friends) and complained that my bills were wrong,

the bills are not itemised.

One month I put the phone in a drawer and  never used it and still got a postpaid bill for 200+ Baht. I told them this and backed up by the wife, they actually gave me a 50 Baht rebate.

This was with True Move, another reason why I dropped their promotion. Things may be different with AIS.

 

Edited August 3, 2017 by elfpattaya

[Pib]

I find it interesting AIS Fibre in the Power4 plan significantly up their upload speed for most plans and now have a 200/50 plan.  The 200Mb plan nor the higher 50Mb upload speed is available in their standalone basic/home packages.  I'm talking their basic/home packages and not their PowerPro packages. 

 

 Like for the HomePlus packages which include a Playbox still only go up to 100Mb download speeds with a 10Mb upload speed.  And the HomeBroadBand packages (internet only) only goes up to 100/10Mb.  

 

Last year AIS had a 200/10Mb standalone plan....then it went away....a few months later it came back but only lasted for a few months before it disappeared again.  I wondered what they just didn't want a 200Mb speed plan in the basic/home packages...maybe they wanted to save bandwidth for expanding their IPTV offering like the HBO channels?   I don't know.   And also, they were pretty much sticking to a 10Mb upload speed unless you went with a certain Pro plans.

 

But with the Power4 plan and reappearance of a 200Mb download plan "with 50Mb upload speed" maybe they are feeling the heat of the competition like 3BB with a basic/home 200/50Mb plan.   However, if feeling the heat it hasn't got hot enough yet to provide a 200/50Mb standalone plan....maybe it's their way of saying we'll have faster speeds in our combo packages that include mobile, wifi, and premium TV.  But I'm guessing.  

 

After getting rid of TrueVisions last week, I now have extra money per month to spend on an internet plan.   Although the 100/10Mb plan I've been on provides all the speed  I really need, I would still like to go to a 200/50Mb plan.  Do I need a 200/50 plan?  No,  but I want it.   Hopefully AIS Fibre will offer a 200/50Mb basic/home standalone plan again and soon.   Time will tell.   

[SooKee]

The package I just switched to, Home Premium, is 50/20, they have a 75/30 option too:

 

http://www.ais.co.th/fibre/en/package_premium.html

 

I'm in a condo so the max for me would be 75/30.  I'm finding 50/20 is doing everything I need at the moment with no lagging at all so likely won't upgrade to 75/30 just because I can.

Edited August 3, 2017 by SooKee

[shady86]

The package I just switched to, Home Premium, is 50/20, they have a 75/30 option too:
 
http://www.ais.co.th/fibre/en/package_premium.html
 
I'm in a condo so the max for me would be 75/30.  I'm finding 50/20 is doing everything I need at the moment with no lagging at all so likely won't upgrade to 75/30 just because I can.

I find 50mbps not enough for streaming YouTube uhd so I switched to 75mbps for extra 100baht.

[SooKee]

Yup, I'd switch if I had a problem.  Just don't at the moment.  Of course it'll depend on what's actually being delivered out of that promised 50 Mbps.  Equally,  I don't watch any YouTube UHD either.  No problem with paying the extra 100 baht, just never had a need to do so yet.

[JaiMaai]

redundant post - removed

 

[SooKee]

Random Shutdowns

 

Not happened many times but I have noticed that the Playbox has randomly shut down 2-3 times now over what seems varying periods of time.  It is the PB that's shutting down too, not another device (e.g. TV / sound bar) shutting down and forcing the PB to close via CEC etc.  First time was after an hour, recently after about 3.  Can't figure where it's coming from either, all the Daydream / power save options (at least that I can find) are set to 'off'.  My only thought is that it might be some app with a setting that I've missed, or just a glitch.  Odd though?

[Pib]

I haven't experienced that problem (yet) with my two PBs.

[SooKee]

22 hours ago, Pib said:

I haven't experienced that problem (yet) with my two PBs.

Bit further forward, but only just.  Had the box switch off while I was busy doing something so didn't notice if anything happened before.  Turned it on and set a stop watch on my phone.  None of the power saving settings are set so this time the ONLY one I changed was for the box to sleep after 6 hours of activity.  

 

Just happened to be watching the screen at the time it nearly shut down again.  Got a 'Playbox will shut down in x seconds press any button to interrupt' (or words to that effect).  Funny thing is it happened after 5 hours??  Really odd?  Had a run through the installed apps to see if any of them had any power management settings I'd inadvertently set.  Nothing.  Bizarre.  Can't for the life of me think where it's coming from.  Checked throughout every settings page I can find??

[Pib]

Go into the Settings, Common menu. and change the Standby setting from the default of 5 hours to Never if you don't want the box to go into standby.   You have a choice of Never, 3 hrs, 5 hrs, or 10 hrs.    As mentioned, the default is 5 hours.

 

When you mentioned your problem earlier something in the back of my mind told me I had seen a 5 hr setting somewhere in the Playbox settings but I just couldn't remember what it was until I just went and looked in the Settings, Common menu.

 

Now I don't know if say you have it set to 5 hrs that Standby will kick-in after 5 hrs even if you have been watching the Playbox "and at least clicking the remote onetime or just having some kind of User interface with the Playbox.  Or, once any User activity occurs like changing to another TV channel, just clicking the remove one time, that the standby time such as 5 hrs resets and starts over.    

 

When your Playbox went into Standby after 5 hours had you had any User interface with it within those 5 hours, like clicking the remote to change a channel, open up an app, etc?  If you had some User interface during those 5 hours and it still went into Standby after 5 hours I guess the Standby clock starts once you Power On/Restart the Playbox and any User activity after that doesn't count to reset the standby time.

Edited August 6, 2017 by Pib