stud858 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 hours ago, mikebell said: Pattaya needs several multi-storey car parks; it needs a bus park outside the centre with tourists taking a shuttle of baht buses; it needs the taxi Mafia taken off the street clogging up the roads; clothes drying racks should be taken off the streets after dark; businesses should not be allowed to commandeer the road in front of their premises with cones; oh and a police force. This poster is smart. I agree. No parking on street at all. 3 lanes each way down main roads. Government buys up some land and builds parking spots. Let's go to city Hall and present the plan. Who's with me and mikebell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 No No No and for the last time No...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoNavy Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Pattaya is growing from a fishing village in the 60's to a now bustling tourist & entertainment community complete with all that that brings. Many communities throughout the world are experiencing this and it will continue. The population is growing and people look for jobs and any method to maintain sustenance. Government officials are faced with timing, expense and future costs in improving and maintaining congested community living. As we all have seen the need to get around and method of private conveyance whether it be by auto, motorbike or public they all compete for space with the cost of time. New methods are being developed from electric, solar, light rail to even individual air transports. If only the StarTrek 'transporter' would be developed soon! Affordable public conveyance seems to be the only way to transport mass population. It has to be easy access, affordable and safe. That in itself will have its own set of issues. What is the alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Positively NO Resorts would remain full with families and Higher End tourists willing to spend money IF: 1. 26-48 month program to clean up the FILTHY, POLLUTED, Ocean. 2. The beach cleaned each evening or early ,morning Tractor/rake like Australia, USA Beaches cleaned. 3. Safer traffic laws enforced. 4. Trained, competent drivers; safe tour buses safety Inspected each 6 months. High End Tourists would spend lots of money in Pattaya; And Pattaya would not attract so many low class drunks and cheap sex Tourists staying in flea bag hotel rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 what transport woes? my main worry are traffic jams on Pattaya Tai, Thepprasit, Pattaya Klang and Sukhumvit. These a tram cannot solve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpjack Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 yes i could see a tram working well, especially up & down beach road & around to circle 2nd and maybe 3rd road. i think it would work but of couse im no expert but its something i would pay onto easilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, pumpjack said: yes i could see a tram working well, especially up & down beach road & around to circle 2nd and maybe 3rd road. i think it would work but of couse im no expert but its something i would pay onto easilly. The 1st 2nd road loop is the LAST place that needs a tram.... How about a tram out to the far reaches of the dark side now that would really be helpful.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeyang wah Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 4 hours ago, LennyW said: Simple answer .......NO! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeyang wah Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Wait a minute. They're talking about putting buses in first to get the public used to it, and then laying tracks and installing a tram. Why not just keep the buses? A city as chaotic as Pattaya has no chance of keeping those tracks uncluttered and the trams freely moving. And let's not even begin on maintenance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Once tram tracks are installed, the motorcycles will still be more of a problem than the 4+wheelers They will be forever be getting their bike wheels either stuck in the tracks, or at least slipping everywhere in the wet, especially whenever bikes are applied in a hurry. The resultant positive thing about the above - is that it then discourages all that prevailing incessant overtaking/ lane swapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh2121 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 And what makes them think that motorbikes will not park on the tram lines like they do on the disabled lane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 4 hours ago, hansnl said: Actually there is a much cheaper and more flexible system. Trolley buses on dedicated lanes where possible. No track laying in the road, only overhead wires. Clean and quiet transport. This bi-articulated bus runs in the city of Zurich in Switzerland, where traffic laws are strictly enforced, buses have dedicated bus lane with no noodle carts, try-wheelers or somtam wagons blocking the way. Trams look like shown here are are by far the fastest and cheapest way to commute, very successfully and to the fullest satisfaction of its users. I told my eight year old grandson to get ready to prepare his greatgrandson for the opening of the first tram ride through Pattaya. This of course only if the same professionals are hired who are in charge of Pattaya's underpass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 5 hours ago, charmonman said: If the trams looked like this I'd be all for it. Maybe, but how long do you think it would stay clean cut as in the picture, with the way cables are unsightly piled up on every pole, with dangerous loose dangling wires and coils etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, pumpjack said: yes i could see a tram working well, especially up & down beach road & around to circle 2nd and maybe 3rd road. i think it would work but of couse im no expert but its something i would pay onto easilly. But remember trams don't normally come to the kerb, in the west all traffic stops to allow people get on and off, can you honestly imagine them stopping here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I think the city wants to get rid of overhead wires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patje55 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Train carrying cement derails in middle of Korat last night Google train accidents in Thailand or derailments and you know the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjonburi Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Betteridge's law of headlines: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSICMAN16 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 please bring trams so we can avoid these wicked thieving lying taxi drivers trams trams trams trams taxi drivers spoil the tourists holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Yes please make it happen , I would love it, 5 minutes to Central instead of having to trust crazy baht bus drivers. But unfortunately it will never happen , the taxi mafia is in control of Pattaya. Corruption etc. But we can always dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 55 minutes ago, MUSICMAN16 said: please bring trams so we can avoid these wicked thieving lying taxi drivers trams trams trams trams taxi drivers spoil the tourists holiday Only to be replaced by wicked thieving tram operators.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 The Baht buses & taxi mafia will be hard to convince that this can work. The beach road needs to be made totally traffic free if this is to work, I can hear the wheels turning from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 8 hours ago, donkeykong said: We're getting a tower as well! :-) There is already a tower- many years ago was actually quite fun in the revolving restaurant- last time I looked- you stuck to the remains of the carpet- the Chinese tours were hoovering up every possible edible morsel . The tram - nice idea- will be blockades, sabotage, etc etc. Very sadly can remember the trolley buses in Doncaster- I seem to remember they worked quite well . The Town Hall needs to really think about banning the tour buses from the centre of the universe ( oops Pattaya) the drivers don't give a flying * about anyone on the road. Then of course - who are we poor mortals who live here and contribute billions to the town hall- have any say in the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 6 hours ago, manarak said: what transport woes? my main worry are traffic jams on Pattaya Tai, Thepprasit, Pattaya Klang and Sukhumvit. These a tram cannot solve. Easily solved by banning the parking on all these major roads and doing some simple improvements to the intersections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonywillo Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 9 hours ago, phantomfiddler said: Pattaya has the best, cheapest, and most frequent transportation in the world, why change it ? If it ain,t broke don,t fix it ! Melbourne Australia has FREE trams in the city center so cheapest in the world title goes there. If it ain't broke there's no reason why you can't improve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, tonywillo said: Melbourne Australia has FREE trams in the city center so cheapest in the world title goes there. If it ain't broke there's no reason why you can't improve it. Bat Busses are fun trams are boring...So a 10 Baht Baht bus is a better value than a free tram.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 10 hours ago, hansnl said: Actually there is a much cheaper and more flexible system. Trolley buses on dedicated lanes where possible. No track laying in the road, only overhead wires. Clean and quiet transport. I'm all for better public transportation but the LAST thing we need is more overhead wires! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Trains and cars are a bad mix already in Thailand, can you imagine the carnage if trams were in use !! Thailands mentality is not ready for trams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) On 7/10/2017 at 6:44 PM, hansnl said: Actually there is a much cheaper and more flexible system. Trolley buses on dedicated lanes where possible. No track laying in the road, only overhead wires. Clean and quiet transport. "dedicated lanes " You mean as in a lane in the road that everyone else would have to keep out of, or at least make way for the trams? ROFL. Yeah, that'd work... ... about as well as making way for emergency vehicles and zebra-striped walkways, not to mention your common everyday red light, do now. The 4-wheel taxis don't contribute anything useful and are totally expendable, but aside from there perhaps being too many of them, the baht busses work pretty well. Edited July 12, 2017 by hawker9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeyang wah Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 13 hours ago, hotchilli said: Thailands mentality is not ready for trams! That right there is the problem in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 What could a tram do that baht busses are not already doing now? Absolutely nothing is what..... Trams would eat a ABSOLUTELY HUGE amount of resources and offer very little in return..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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