The ongoing saga with USA / N. Korea is starting to hot up at a rate and no "U" turns available. With the newly imposed sanctions K/J is angry as he is seeing that this could possibly be the start of the end of his empire . He may act like a wild animal backed into a corner with nothing to lose as he does not have any concern for his own people  . Who will blink first and                                                             " is it time to get out of Dodge " ?    Just  what would be the implications of a nuclear weapon dropped on the island of Guam for  Asia?

The BBC has good reading on the subject              http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40882877

Refugees will be the problem. SE Asia should be fine. .

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Pretty much impossible to evacuate Asia, half the world population lives inside this circle.

 

 

So much unnecessary and manufactured angst.

 

So where might one be more comfortable vacant of ongoing conflict?

25 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

So much unnecessary and manufactured angst.

 

So where might one be more comfortable vacant of ongoing conflict?

Space travel is becoming more and more reachable for the average Jeff bezos types.

3 minutes ago, Rc2702 said:

Space travel is becoming more and more reachable for the average Jeff bezos types.

Nah.

Give us time and we'll find a way to <deleted> up the great unknown of the outer reaches of space.

 

It's what we do well.

 

Yes  bombing the hooker country of the world tops their list

Just now, inThailand said:

Yes  bombing the hooker country of the world tops their list

Anything to raise prices 

2 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Pretty much impossible to evacuate Asia, half the world population lives inside this circle.

 

 

I was only thinking about you & me plus other falangs 

Just now, zzaa09 said:

Nah.

Give us time and we'll find a way to <deleted> up the great unknown of the outer reaches of space.

 

It's what we do well.

 

To be fair the human race could well do with a common enemy from another galaxy. Might straighten out some problems. ShiI it I forgot they are here already. They like to play out world problems on twitter they aint much different 

Just watched a report on the BBC news from Guam . Many local people concerned as you would expect with the Japanese tourists more so and thinking of getting out , got a feeling that there could be a domino effect type stampede , exit wise . 

                       Problem is the talking is all but finished and this new dictator has to show his power . We have not seen anything like this before that I can recall in modern post war times . How do you deal with such a lunatic who is known to drink to the extreme and continue to give commands with such destructive weaponry at his disposal ? ?

Just watched a report on the BBC news from Guam . Many local people concerned as you would expect with the Japanese tourists more so and thinking of getting out , got a feeling that there could be a domino effect type stampede , exit wise . 
                       Problem is the talking is all but finished and this new dictator has to show his power . We have not seen anything like this before that I can recall in modern post war times . How do you deal with such a lunatic who is known to drink to the extreme and continue to give commands with such destructive weaponry at his disposal ? ?

Trump drinks to extreme?

Just now, mogandave said:

 

Trump drinks to extreme?

 

Now that made me laugh ,  brilliant

15 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

Trump drinks to extreme?

 

Yup. Trump does not drink but you probably drink enough for him?

Edited August 10, 20179 yr by inThailand

59 minutes ago, superal said:

I was only thinking about you & me plus other falangs 

....as only Farang are worthy and of any importance.

 

My honest opinion bomb NK wipe him and his sick ideas of the face of the earth. Wouldnt be a long war once the muppet was dead the moderates would appear pretty quick. As for us here sod all to woory about he's terrified of the keyboard warriors.

If you read it correctly they say they would drop the so called bombs in the sea near to Guam not quite the same as bombing it

Edited August 10, 20179 yr by jeab1980

2 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

....as only Farang are worthy and of any importance.

 

You said it , not me 

2 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

My honest opinion bomb NK wipe him and his sick ideas of the face of the earth. Wouldnt be a long war once the muppet was dead the moderates would appear pretty quick. As for us here sod all to woory about he's terrified of the keyboard warriors

And yet blindly dismiss the real instigators of the world's problems....

 

Always an invented boogieman.

No it's not. 

57 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

 

If you read it correctly they say they would drop the so called bombs in the sea near to Guam not quite the same as bombing it

Assuming that their guidance system works, otherwise they could come down anywhere.

50 minutes ago, A1Str8 said:

No it's not. 

Of course it doesn't exist if one thrives in a blinded culturally-centric vacuum.

 

Conditionally dumbed-down comes to mind.

8 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

And yet blindly dismiss the real instigators of the world's problems....

 

Always an invented boogieman.

Total hogwash so you agree with NK then

Thailand doesn't give a toss about the rest of the world, unless there is something in it for them

Any body have info on fly hotel deals to Guam from BKK? 

11 hours ago, superal said:

Just watched a report on the BBC news from Guam . Many local people concerned as you would expect with the Japanese tourists more so and thinking of getting out , got a feeling that there could be a domino effect type stampede , exit wise . 

                       Problem is the talking is all but finished and this new dictator has to show his power . We have not seen anything like this before that I can recall in modern post war times . How do you deal with such a lunatic who is known to drink to the extreme and continue to give commands with such destructive weaponry at his disposal ? ?

Last paragraph.... You're talking about the blonde haired guy with the orange face and tiny hands right?

America has been involved in 13 armed conflicts since the Korean war armistice. That does not count all the covert actions that we will never hear about and the misery they have caused. North Korea has been involved in...of yeah that's right....none I believe.

 

I understand that NK is a threat but we need to make clear in 2 ways how absurd it would be to attack us or allies:

 

1) Place anti-missile technology everywhere around them...advanced radar will certainly piss China off but who cares....Kim has given us ample justification for doing so.

 

2) Make 1 simple public statement: "any attack on the USA or it's allies will result in a concerted effort to kill and remove Kim and all family members from power and degradation of any and all military capabilities. We will not stop until all members of the Kim dynasty are dead or imprisoned."

Edited August 11, 20179 yr by tonray

Fallout from a  North Korean detonation over Seoul would drift back over North Korea and eventually to China.

Fallout from a  detonation over Pyongyang would drift back over North Korea  and into China. If in the  Northeast, then it could wipe out Vladivostok in Russia.

Any North Korean detonation over japan would have a fallout drift northward contaminating the ocean and wiping out marine life.

Fallout from anything hitting the west coast of the USA would drift northwest. However, it is to be expected that US interception efforts would be attempted  in the arctic or over Canada if the missile was launched using a polar route. the end result is that  much of Canada's north  its key western farming zones  contaminated damaging the Canadian economy and removing a large amount of the world's  key grain supplier causing a world famine. The Canadian oil industry could be wiped out as well which would destroy Canada. 

 

If a missile was fired at Guam and intercepted over the pacific, the world would see fish stock contaminated and countries who rely on  pacific fish stocks pushed into shortage. if it his Guam, then North Korea would be obliterated with a nuclear cloud poisoning China and causing a retaliation.

 

The bottom line is that the  madman must be stopped now. China and Russia must act and pull their puppet  in or kill him and his henchmen.

 

Don't worry,  Thailand is ready to defend itself,  we're safe here! 

3 minutes ago, tonray said:

America has been involved in 13 armed conflicts since the Korean war armistice. That does not count all the covert actions that we will never hear about and the misery they have caused. North Korea has been involved in...of yeah that's right....none I believe.

 

I understand that NK is a threat but we need to make clear in 2 ways how absurd it would be to attack us or allies:

 

1) Place anti-missile technology everywhere around them...advanced radar will certainly piss China off but who cares....Kim has given us ample justification for doing so.

 

2) Make 1 simple public statement: "any attack on the USA or it's allies will result in a concerted effort to kill and remove Kim and all family members from power and degradation of any and all military capabilities. We will not stop until all members of the Kim dynasty are dead or imprisoned."

All of that has been done. The Chinese hold the key. Until the Chinese  stop propping up the tyrant we will have the madness. It's time to make the Chinese pay the price. Make the Chinese suffer economically and they will act. The folks  bashing the USA are blinded by their hatred. It's not the USA who are at  greatest risk. The Japanese, South Koreans and Pacific islanders who are in the path of the fall out will be wiped out. The environment will be irretrievably harmed, and Canada could see its country plunged into economic failure with the loss of its far north and prairie region. The North Korean missile will most likely not reach the Continental USA but will hit Japan or South Korea or Canada. The North Korean regime   is engaged in its own genocide and foreign terrorism. Stop making excuses.

 

 

 

There is no fear for anyone in Thailand. Thailand is following the United nations sanctions but it is not going to clode North Korea business in Thailand .  In the event of a war erupting Thailand may allow US warplanes and soldiers into Thai military bases on the way  to and exiting the war zone.

 

The North Korean leader was schooled in Switzerland and speaks several languages. He is not ignorant nor a foll and knows exactly what he is doing. He knows a North Korean first strike with either nuclear or conventional weapons will be his downfall and get universal condemnation and will allow the US to counterattack.  Even if N Korea launched a nuclear strike- the US response will be non nuclear.  rump knows that the destruction involved with a nuclear weapon would be disastrous.

 

The only solution is negotiation and a lowering of the rhetoric. As part of the negotiation- Kim must agree to denuclearize the Korean peninsula and both Russia and china guarantee Kim's survival. The US must  agree to no N Korean regime change; withdraw from South Korea and the UN sanctions removed.  The best way to get N Korea to ultimately stand down is to bring its economy into the capitalistic system.