transam Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 minute ago, greenchair said: You cannot present a case to the court of the mafia did it but we can't prove it because that part of the evidence is lost. The judge made his decision on evidence presented. Not some story from tv. If is any consolation, I do strongly believe there were almost certainly others. But no evidence so what can you do. The BiB had evidence in their hands that mysteriously went missing....Why wasn't the BiB asked why/how it went missing....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 What are you talking about? They would have stated they didn't do it whether they did it or not. If the evidence went missing how do you know they had it in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 This would make a great documentary but anyone who tried to make it would be slammed with defamation suits by the cops/state. Meanwhile, the killer is still free to kill again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Which killer is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 minute ago, JLCrab said: What are you talking about? They would have stated they didn't do it whether they did it or not. If a 10 year stretch was on offer and I DID do it then no problem, if I didn't do it l would stand my ground, whatever the outcome.... When the B2 eventually got representation and told the scenarios they still said they did not do it, they had a way out but insisted they did not do it... But of course YOU know more about the case as you want the B2 taken out with shit evidence and question marks over missing stuff....Hmmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, JLCrab said: Which killer is that? The rather privileged son of a local influential family who refused a DNA test. That one. The one whose name will not be uttered by locals for fear of reprisals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, stephen tracy said: The rather privileged son of a local influential family who refused a DNA test. That one. The one whose name will not be uttered by locals for fear of reprisals. Shhh, oh you mean the one that cannot be named. Psst is it. ..is it. .. Lord voldamort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 minute ago, greenchair said: Shhh, oh you mean the one that cannot be named. Psst is it. ..is it. .. Lord voldamort That's not what the locals call him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, transam said: Are YOU saying innocent folk should plead guilty....? Exactly what he's saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I think you are mixing me up with someone else about accepting a plea deal. I never said anything about it. What I have said is: "I do not think that the Thai prosecution -- especially in a capital murder case -- proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt ... and so what?" I don't think that equates to wanting to take out the B2 with shxx evidence. And the "so what?" is that nobody in Thai officialdom has asked me what do I think. As for naming THE killer good, that puts it in the record. Maybe you remember this: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2015/08/14/1439558550/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, stephen tracy said: That's not what the locals call him. Whatever. Maybe rumplestilskin did do it. Who knows. The topic is about the defense submitting the last appeal to the supreme court after failing in the first 2 courts. Standard practice in a death penalty case. I am wondering how many years it might take to process 300 pages of dna analysis confusion. I wonder if they would be eligible for a pardon because of there age. I am hoping I will be alive to see the outcome. For me I would not like to see them killed. But I'm not against a few extra years in prison for that horrendous crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 32 minutes ago, transam said: Except the B2 who continually state they did not do the crime....Even offered 10 years inside if they admitted guilt, they didn't, why was that....? If I didn't do something I would never admit l did, perhaps you would eh.. People in UK sometimes plead guilty, because although they know themselves to be innocent they feel the evidence against them is enough for conviction. By pleading guilty they know that they will receive a much lighter sentence. So it does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, greenchair said: Whatever. Maybe rumplestilskin did do it. Who knows. The topic is about the defense submitting the last appeal to the supreme court after failing in the first 2 courts. Standard practice in a death penalty case. I am wondering how many years it might take to process 300 pages of dna analysis confusion. I wonder if they would be eligible for a pardon because of there age. I am hoping I will be alive to see the outcome. For me I would not like to see them killed. But I'm not against a few extra years in prison for that horrendous crime. No it wasn't Rumplestilskin, everyone on KT knows who it was, and he's a free man. Why would you even bother to attempt to defend a blatant stich-up? This is what the RTP are best at and also the reason there are so many people rotting in Thai prisons who haven't actually committed a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 So nearly 3 years on and not one person of all those who know who did it and who was in a position to help the unjustly accused B2 was willing to come forward if they indeed had the means to do so. How can you defend such scum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, JLCrab said: So nearly 3 years on and not one person of all those who know who did it and who was in a position to help the unjustly accused B2 was willing to come forward if they indeed had the means to do so. How can you defend such scum? Scum also accuse with no evidence and lived in Isaan at the time...Pot/Kettle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, JLCrab said: So nearly 3 years on and not one person of all those who know who did it and who was in a position to help the unjustly accused B2 was willing to come forward if they indeed had the means to do so. How can you defend such scum? It is unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, JLCrab said: So nearly 3 years on and not one person of all those who know who did it and who was in a position to help the unjustly accused B2 was willing to come forward if they indeed had the means to do so. How can you defend such scum? Nope not one. That's the power of the RTP at work. Fear. No one wants to end up a corpse at the end of a rope with their hands tied behind their back in another apparent suicide. You are not seriously suggesting that the RTP is an actual police force, are you? Like other institution in LOS they are another mafia in uniform, no different to their plain-clothes counter-parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I know what I said and I'm sticking to it to both you and to the Angels voice kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, stephen tracy said: Nope not one. That's the power of the RTP at work. Fear. No one wants to end up a corpse at the end of a rope with their hands tied behind their back in another apparent suicide. You are not seriously suggesting that the RTP is an actual police force, are you? Like other institution in LOS they are another mafia in uniform, no different to their plain-clothes counter-parts. Blimey, are you saying Dimitri Povse was going around saying who the Koh Tao killer was? https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/french-man-hanged-koh-tao-hands-tied-handled-suicide/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, bannork said: Blimey, are you saying Dimitri Povse was going around saying who the Koh Tao killer was? https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/french-man-hanged-koh-tao-hands-tied-handled-suicide/ No suspicious deaths on KT whatsoever... all clear-cut suicides. Case closed. I guess it must be a depressing place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iReason Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 20 hours ago, wakeupplease said: Smoke and mirrors again If you are not aware, the poster that you speak of, is very rarely seen on any other thread. Primarily just the Koa Tao threads. Where he pops in with relentless deflections. And has, since day one of the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 That's right. I enjoy these Koh Tao threads because it is a display of social media at its worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Just now, stephen tracy said: No suspicious deaths on KT whatsoever... all clear-cut suicides. Case closed. I guess it must be a depressing place. Not depressing to all these folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 minute ago, bannork said: Not depressing to all these folks. I tell everyone I know who is visiting to avoid/boycott the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Bluespunk said: I tell everyone I know who is visiting to avoid/boycott the place. Looks like they are not listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Nor would I, back in the west, but in these parts it's pretty much the normal course of events. To expect otherwise would only result in disappointment.Basically all thise who claim to know the truth but refuse to step forward and testify, for whatever reason, are saying "so what"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Basically all thise who claim to know the truth but refuse to step forward and testify, for whatever reason, are saying "so what"?..... and to come on forums like this one and tell people they know something as if it's somehow something to be proud of. I'm not sure I get the reasoning there unless they are desperate for attention or it's a macho thing about being "in the know" Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, NCFC said: Basically all thise who claim to know the truth but refuse to step forward and testify, for whatever reason, are saying "so what"? Ummm. no, not quite... they are simply refusing to put themselves and families in harm's way. Quite sensibly too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconuthead Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Koh Tao is a fiefdom of fear thats why nobody will talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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