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Now don't go bringing Germany into this. Oh! Wait a minute, it probably is already!

Jim, because someone doesn't like Thaksin, it doesn't make him a junta lover. There's been a new kid on the block for a few years now and he won the most votes in the last election. What are you gonna say when PT team up with the real junta lovers, Pravit, etc, to bring your boy home? This is the end or turn out the lights?

I disagree, big problem there for PT if they form a government without MF, they have to join the military aligned parties, almost certainly including Pravit. Parties they claimed were the enemies of democracy. That will see an exodus of any progressives like Nattawut, Chaturon Chaisaeng, etc from PT, leaving the party's image in tatters. You say MF are past their peak. I would argue on the contrary, PT are fading, they lost 2 constituencies in Chiang Mai, also in Udon. Aligning themselves with the military aligned parties will see them fade further as the electorate realise, as they did with the dissolution of FF, only MF offer any real chance of change in Thailand.

Absolutely. I remember reading about the October 6th 1976 massacre in Time or Newsweek magazine. I knew nothing about Thailand at the time, but that photo of the hung student battered by chairs from a lynch mob stuck in my mind. If pictures like that were broadcast across international media today, I'm not sure the government would survive.

,That was filmed in Thailand, I think near Ayutthaya.

Okay, more details. She is being sued by Card X who belong to Siam Commercial Bank with whom she has an account

I think she might find it hard to take the time off work, it's a long way there and back. I said pay them 5000 baht and offer to pay them that per month. Keep them off your back. Thanks for all the advice folks, it seems there's a variety of opinions as to what happens next if she doesn't turn up!

It w is an unsecured loan. She has never paid any instalments as far as I know.she says she can't remember. She has been officially summoned to the Civil Court, the official letter was sent 2 months ago and the date is later this week

One of my Thai nieces has run up a debt of 140,000 baht with a credit company. They have sent her a summons to attend court next week to discuss repayment. She's working in a hotel in Phuket and says she can't be bothered to travel so far to attend court! I try to warn her about the consequences of non appearance but I don't know exactly what will happen. Presumably the court will find 100% in favour of the credit company if she doesn't appear. Then what happens? Will they order her to repay the full amount, in say 30 days? Will they seize her assets ( none that I know of)? Will they freeze her bank accounts? Will they issue an arrest warrant? If anyone knows of the likely outcome, I would appreciate the advice and consequently warn her Thank you

Drunken evacuees causing havoc once relocated

In theory even if Pita is banned there should be no problem, one of the three PT candidates could step up to the plate. But maybe Phumtam is thinking, 'Yes but what happens if the senators reject our three choices? Then we have to go with someone they find acceptable, Anuthin or Pravit.' If they do that they are scum who deserve to be hammered at the next election

For anyone wishing to learn about authentic Thai cooking, I have found Pailin's lessons to be invaluable

I wonder if he ever applied for a job portraying Tarzan.

Someone needs to lay off the sauce. ' Dozens of MP delegates' turns out to be '20 might possibly be alleged' . Talk about misleading hyperbole.

Don't compare Thaksin to the army, compare him to other politicians. He was far richer than the clans' leaders. He was more dominant, more oppressive because of his money. He had the opportunity with his huge majority to truly develop and advance Thailand, but instead he enriched his family, companies and close business associates. He belongs to the past if Thailand can truly move forward.

Looting in a Russian town as cops and soldiers flee

Sutichai Yoon mentioned Chaturon Chaisaeng in his Sunday morning show on This PBS today. Chaturon, forced to flee to the jungle after the 1976 massacre of students at Thammasart, stressed how PT and MF must stick together come what may. Disputes about House Speaker, etc can all be resolved behind closed doors. If PT doesn't stick with MF, then the old regime still has a chance of power. One panelist mentioned how even if M F cannot have Pita as PM, they still hold the majority of seats, if PT stick with them and the coalition, then surely they will be the government, a position they never expected to be in prior the election. But would enough senators vote for one of the PT PM candidates? Appointed by Prayuth, most are old enemies of Thaksin. And how will a firm coalition of MF, PT benefit Thaksin? His return is very low on any of the priorities of MF and other parties barring PT.

It is true that he was the first politician to make nationwide policies the core of his campaigns, the 30 baht health scheme being the best example. He had a great chance after his victory in 2001 ( if I remember the year right) to install reformers in his government but he didn't, rather rich industrialists, powerful clans took all the important posts, and then the corruption began in order to benefit his companies and associates by simply changing the laws rather than the old method of money under the table. He muzzled the press, state media, newspapers were given no state advertising if they criticised Thaksin, he sued anyone who disparaged him, his arrogance knew no bounds, apologies were something he didn't do. He may have inadvertently helped FF become popular by making policy key to a party's image but their rise and subsequently MF's, I believe is due to their vision and passion for real reform. Everyone knows PT is owned by one man and once he dies the party's over, pun intended.

Hint: hid 2.37 billion baht in servants' names! Dwarfs Pravit's watches

Yes, the lawyers working for Thaksin were sent down. The mastermind got away.

Put the lawyers in the slammer, not me! https://mgronline.com/general/detail/9510000075620

Indictment of Thaksin for hiding his wealth Edit Thailand's National Counter Corruption Commission (NCCC) submitted an indictment to the Constitutional Court accusing Thaksin Shinawatra, the prime minister-in-waiting at the time, for failing to disclose assets worth about 2.37 billion baht ($56 million) while he was deputy prime minister in 1997 and a year afterward.[49] If found guilty, Thaksin could be banned from political office for five years. This case is known as the "stock hiding case" because the Constitution prohibits politicians and their spouses from holding shares in private companies as per the law. However, Thaksin transferred the shares he owned to his domestic staff and other nominees in order to conceal his ownership.[50

Jim, I'm a MF lover, not a junta lover. MF want to reform Thailand, as their banned predecessor, FF did Thaksin just wants to offer the peasants crumbs, here you are , 10,000 baht, now shut up. He and his party are conservatives, the leaders millionaires and billionaires who want to change nothing substantial in Thailand, the red shirts, just peasants to be bought off with thrown bones. Jatupon left when the idiot finally realised the soul of Thaksin is a merchant, not a democrat. Many others will follow, Nattawut, Chaturon Chaisaeng, etc when they finally see Pheua Thai is all and only about Thaksin

Thaksin has benefited from the Thai judicial system more than once. He hid his shares in the names of his domestic staff for years and yet declared it was 'an honest mistake' Of course, people do it every day, putting investments in their driver's and maids' names for years. Now why could that be? It couldn't be to manipulate stock prices, surely?. He got off, just. Another case where Thaksin's lawyers handed a box with lots of luvely cash under a generous lunch box to judges adjudicating one of his cases. I believe the donors were sent down but not Thaksin of course, he distanced himself naturally. Several civil servants are, and have served time for Thaksin's corrupt policies, loans to state banks that couldn't be guaranteed, the guaranteed 15,000 baht scheme for every tonne of rice, regardless of quality or origin. The civil servants are in the slammer but neither Thaksin nor Yingluck cares.. BTW, Jim, the title of the thread is Thaksin so it doesn't mean posters are obsessing about him, it's just that some of us realise his paternal, family politics belongs in the dustbin