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Driver fined for reckless driving and then? As usual, no investigation into the bus providing company, charging them with neglect and manslaughter for not servicing their vehicls properly, charging the driver for failed security checks, etc...?
I can understand the people who think that Thailand still is a 3rd world country. The facade isn't, but the brains of its people along with how they handle live threatening problems certainly are.
Let's hope the parents of the unfortunate child will sue the parties involved along with a good lawyer that helps them pro-bono and that justice will be served.
RIP to the little one and sincerest condolences to family and friends.
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Aleg - you just try to ridicule my points including the ones that are proven facts using the superficial and obvious tricks that any briefed mainstream showmaster would use if a "difficult" guest enters the stage who wouldn't agree with what official sources say. These tricks are easy and simple - you often simply deflect away from the intitial subject and throw in irritating accusations that you - on the other hand - can't prove either. Then you ask questions about my forensic or criminal investigative background in a ridiculing way, hoping that you got a point there, but you don't - because 2 close friends of mine are active investigators with the BKA in Germany and have seen thousands of crime scenes. They took the time to look at this mess and the photos and information I gathered on the internet and came to the conclusions I pointed out. First loss for you in your superficial and carelessly constructed shill post.
You have no idea what the parents were briefed with, so right of the bat you start by making things up and vilifying the victim's families based on your own fantasies.
My own fantasies? See above! 2 - 0 for me, my clueless and blind friend!If you would have invested the time to properly investigate the information given here point by point
"1) RTP allowing bystanders and prime suspects to trample about and invade the crime scene."
They didn't properly secure the crime scene, wow, maybe you are not just talking nonsense...
You making the biggest and most disastrous blunder in this investigation sound like an "oopsie" can't deflect the mature and clever reader from understanding that this simple mistake would render void any investigation in the rest of the so-called civil world, due to the fact that evidence could have been planted, tempered with, false leads be planted, etc. A photo shown of one of the prime suspects standing just a few inches away from one of the victims would have blown any case file in a court with an intelligent judge to pieces! This is not an "oopsie" my shallow-minded friend - it is a cluster-F performed by the RTP!!!
3 - 0 for me, pal!"2) RTP completely ignoring tell-tale findings such as:
a) Shallow stab wounds at David's head and shoulder (concentrating on right hand side, implicating a left handed attacker of similar height)
b ) Bone fragment, tooth fragment, brain matter and blood splatter in a circular pattern on the rocks behind Hannah, implicating an execution style, close range gun shot to the forehead while she was seated, to later be covered up by smashing her head with the garden hoe.
c) No DNA samples taken from under Hannah's fingernails (correct me if I am wrong)
d) Blood on Sean's guitar and stab wounds on his arms similar to David's.
e) Mafia head's son (prime suspect) disappearing for over a week (allowing him ample time to let Hannah's scratch marks on torso and arms heal)."
Oops, I spoke to soon, you are talking nonsense.
a) Do you have any forensic pathology credentials to support your speculation based on pictures you saw on Internet? Who are you to make judgements on the nature of the wounds and how were they inflicted?
See above - still 3 - 0
Gunshot... really. Because of splatter pattern... you have no idea what you are talking about. Evidence for this nonsense besides your uneducated guesses?
BKA investigators are in agreement looking at the rocks behind Hannah, that such a splatter can't have been provided by blunt force to Hannah's face, but a projectile, AND certainly not from Hannah laying down on the ground while being beaten with the hoe!4 - 0 !
c) You don't know, don't bank on it, arguments from ignorance are worthless.
DNA from under the fingernails wasn't taken, RTP investigators babbled out every single detail and the fingernail swabs were never mentioned. I however don't take a point here, as nobody can't be sure.
d) Again the armchair forensic pathologist determining nature of wounds based on some photo you saw...
A similarity can be claimed by a person with eyes to see and ears to hear. Questions by the RTP should have been asked and comparisons be made - they didn't!
5 - 0e) What mafia? You just make a claim and ran with it, plus complete speculation over injuries in his body. The less said about ignoring that the man in question has been proven not to had been on the island the better, yes?
I have close friends who lived on Koh Tao - they have been threatened by them. The business of another person they know went up in flames after refusing to see to the mafia. The mafia exists on KT, it's a proven fact!6 - 0
The man fled with a speedboat and booked a flight to BKK - there is evidence on CSI LA even showing his name on a flight list of a well known airway company on the morning after the murders!
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"3) The RTP letting key witnesses and/or accessories to murder such as Sean McAnna and Christopher Alanvare walk."
After interrogating them and collecting samples, you'd like to keep them locked up for the duration of the trial to satisfy your self righteous outrage?
There are no sources that say, DNA or other samples were collected from them. Interrogations were of a few hours, while there were thousands of reasons to hold both of them for much longer to find out the truth. The RTP just wanted to get rid of them as most likely they were key witnesses and I believe that Sean has been attacked by one of them in the fight on the beach. Whereas the latter is specualtion, the samples and too short detention time are facts, it stands at 8 - 0"4) The RTP letting gangsters threatening key witness and/or accessory to murder Sean McAnna walk."
The police also interrogated and collected samples from those "gansters"
Again, I find no mentioning of DNA samples from those gangsters - now you are speculating, my friend - 9 -0
"6) The RTP, together with a racist pancake vendor, torturing the Burmese suspects into confession."
They were not tortured into a confession, they claimed they were threatened with torture.
Wrong! They have been kicked and punched even after going down. The vendor did the most of the kicking and hitting. After that they were told to be now stuffed in rubber tyres and set afire. 10 - 0
"7) The RTP puppeteering the patsies around the murder scene while hundreds of witnesses could see that they were completely clueless about location of victims, which direction from they themselves were supposed to have attacked the victims, etc."
Puppeteering the patsies... of course, first make up a premise then derive conclusions from it, no wonder your conclusions agree with your preconceptions.
There is a photo out there where police and the accused are pointing in different directions, with all involved absolutely clueless. The videos show the same, PLUS, was no broken bottle (or plastic replacement) ever used in the reenactment when it came to how David was killed. 11 - 0
"8) The RTP ignoring witness statements that mafia bosse's son along with AC bar owner followed the victims after a brawl over one of them fondling and/or pestering Hannah."
What witnesses and how do you know they ignored them? You are just repeating rumors.
As far as I remember even the RTP mentioned those witnesses while announcing that they have solid proof that Nom Sod and the AC bar owner were the culprits in public. A few hours later, the story changed completely. 12 - 0"9) The RTP announcing that David and Hannah were killed with the hoe despite the fact that the hoe carried only Hannah's DNA."
In their confession the Burmese men claimed they used a bottle to hit Miller, you are cherry-picking (mis)information that suits you.
Wrong again! You are making things up and discredit yourself beyond belief - you should perhaps start to read through the case from the very start as you obviously have just picked a few bits and pieces that suit your pro RTP bias. The pancake vendor told media that a bottle was used. No mention of any of the accused mentioning neither weapons used nor how the victims were killed apart from repeating what RTP told them to say and that was that David and Hannah were killed by the hoe what is wrong. Even the reenactment shows one of the accused standing with the hoe replacement over the person playing David. You are obviously not even looking at the photos - are you blind? 13 - 0, my friend!
"10) The RTP denying british investigators access to all of their findings."
No, they didn't deny access to all their findings, they gave them information when they came to observe the work done by the RTP, you don't know the extent and or relevance of the information they received, again, argument from ignorance.
There was a newspaper article in a leading British newspaper explaining in detail that a full two hours were provided to look into any findings, while essential information was witheld. The article has been deleted from the internet several days after it was published the very instant it was mentioned on CSI LA. 14 - 0
11) ...and the countless additional <deleted!> during the investigation...
Oh well, case closed then.
14 - 0, my superficial friend... You have nothing to show, you know nothing apart from your mainstream media brain wash information snippets and should go home! Take some time to look into the case in detail before trying to ridicule posts of people who have seen and researched every single photo and text snippet available about this case, and who are connected to BKA crime investigators who, themselves, state that this investigation is one of the worst failures they have seen in their entire active time at the police force!!! If you love the mafia bosses on Koh Tao and the corrupt RTP policemen there so much, why don't you move there permanently and become their Public Relations Advisor? The job would suit you very well, but I fear you would lose it again quickly, since you don't spend enough time on research to make your laughable statements rest on solid ground!-
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I really feel sorry for the parents of Hannah and David.
First the screw-up by the RTP and now this parody of a "juridical" system.
Hope they are able to find closure on their own.
JOC - no need to feel sorry for parents who claim they are satisfied with the police work performed during the investigation just for the sake of getting closure, ridden out on the back of innocent patsies. Ever since reading that statement I have no respect and no sympathy for them anymore, sorry!
Here a brief list of what their parents are satisfied with:
1) RTP allowing bystanders and prime suspects to trample about and invade the crime scene.
2) RTP completely ignoring tell-tale findings such as:
a) Shallow stab wounds at David's head and shoulder (concentrating on right hand side, implicating a left handed attacker of similar height)
b ) Bone fragment, tooth fragment, brain matter and blood splatter in a circular pattern on the rocks behind Hannah, implicating an execution style, close range gun shot to the forehead while she was seated, to later be covered up by smashing her head with the garden hoe.
c) No DNA samples taken from under Hannah's fingernails (correct me if I am wrong)
d) Blood on Sean's guitar and stab wounds on his arms similar to David's.
e) Mafia head's son (prime suspect) disappearing for over a week (allowing him ample time to let Hannah's scratch marks on torso and arms heal).
3) The RTP letting key witnesses and/or accessories to murder such as Sean McAnna and Christopher Alanvare walk.
4) The RTP letting gangsters threatening key witness and/or accessory to murder Sean McAnna walk.
5) The RTP stating that none of the Burma DNA samples taken during the first days were a match, but later announcing that two of the DNA negative tested Burmese are the culprits.
6) The RTP, together with a racist pancake vendor, torturing the Burmese suspects into confession.
7) The RTP puppeteering the patsies around the murder scene while hundreds of witnesses could see that they were completely clueless about location of victims, which direction from they themselves were supposed to have attacked the victims, etc.
8) The RTP ignoring witness statements that mafia bosse's son along with AC bar owner followed the victims after a brawl over one of them fondling and/or pestering Hannah.
9) The RTP announcing that David and Hannah were killed with the hoe despite the fact that the hoe carried only Hannah's DNA.
10) The RTP denying british investigators access to all of their findings.
11) ...and the countless additional <deleted!> during the investigation...
If I would be a parent involved, I would scream in agony and rip that cesspit of an island apart with my bare hands!
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stitch up
vb (tr, adverb)1. (Knitting & Sewing) to join or mend by means of stitches or sutures2. (Law)a. to incriminate (someone) on a false charge by manufacturing evidenceb. to betray, cheat, or defraud3. to prearrange (something) in a clandestine mannern4. a matter that has been prearranged clandestinely-
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"Farang" horrified... who writes all this BS headlines? Do we really need to call ourselves "farangs" now too? How low can we go???
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"The incident was the third involving the Thonburi-Nam Tok train in a month."
A haunted Train?
RIP to the victim - condolences to family and friends!
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This island is cursed!
RIP to the victim, condolences to family and friends.
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Tourists should avoid going to stay on this death-island, think twice before going!
No, tourists should just be wise enough to not mess with the local mafia. If you keep to yourself and away from bars and drugs it's a wonderful island.
Tourists dies everywhere. How many tourists die in LA for example every day and do people stop going there?
By far one of the most idiotic posts I ever read on TV! A tourist has a list then, telling them names and places of where to find, respectively avoid local mafia types? Did you forget your medication today, perhaps?
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Unfortunately, the parents will never find out the truth, but is good to see that at least they are pushing for it. Better than parents of kids slaughtered on that god-forsaken island who claim to be satisfied with the official version that screams, "Stitchup, coverup, liar, liar, pants on fire!" right into your face!
Wouldn't be very surprised if the murderers of that unfortunate boy are the same as Hannah's and David's. Motive here is similar - the boy was in love with the girlfriend of a (surprise, surprise!) son of a Koh Tao mafia kingpin (who could it be, hhhhmmm, let me think, who could it be? where did I hear that phrase again ????) and paid the ultimate price for it. His face was beaten in, and he was found dead in the water... Does that ring a bell?
I hope Koh Tao will go down and that - somehow, some day - a natural or man made disaster will punish the cowards on that cesspit of an island, the ones who murdered, the ones who helped to cover up the crimes, and the spineless creatures who saw what happened but decided to keep their mouths shut.
Anyone on that turd(le) island knows that you gonna die if you step on the feet of the wrong people, or that at least your business will go up in flames. It seems to be generally accepted. I can't get my head around it that people wanna live and work or retire there. What idiot would opt for a violent prison as a home if he could live in a nice little town whithout mafia structures and fear?-
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All the usual rhetoric from the expat community ... accusing the RTP and Government of being complicit in all the corruption, murder and other illegal activities ... and yet here you all are supporting the regime.
How many times have I heard people calling for change and yet refuse to take action that brings about that change. You should all be ashamed of yourselves but I guess there's no dragging you off that bar stool.
I've said it before, I'll say it again ... it is YOU, not the Gov, that holds the power to change. All you need to do is leave and then publicly state why you left ... yes change is possible but only if you initiate it otherwise anything you say here is mere hollow words that the Thai officialdom will laugh at.
It's not the RTP or the Gov that's just corrupt or inept ... it's the foreigners who live in Thailand.
...aaaand you are doing exactly what to fight back? Respectively, let me better ask what exactly did you do to "bring change" to this system whenever you were in Thailand, regardless if as tourist or expat????
Besides the fact that this is one of the most irritating posts in months, I'd like to ask you what reactions you thought your post would generate, but disapproval and negative comments? If you were looking for sympathy, you certainly did hit the wrong notes, my blue froggy friend...
And besides, your comments were off topic on top of all that!
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Hmmmmm.....I am being deafened by the silence from the usual RTP shills and apologists, JTJ, JDinAsia, SvissGeez etc. I would have thought they'd be scrambling to denounce this diversion from the script!
Maybe the fact that not one of them has posted in defence of the RTP case yet lends strength to the rumour that they are in fact one person working with or for the RTP?
Surely they/he/she will break silence soon and come wading in to defend the official version.
JTJ has been here already and then promptly departed, I took a screenshot of his vile comment however http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/785185-myanmar-says-workers-innocent-of-murdering-britons-on-koh-tao/?p=8821563
Unfortunately that just takes us to the place after his comments were deleted by the mods (well done mods!). I would have like to have seen what he/she/they said though.
Reg. JTJ and his pal JDinasia or something, I have to say that I find it very frightening to see that there are people out there who opt to believe official stories and statements just because they have been labeled as the "official truth" and who are reluctant to see the greater picture and ask uncomfortable questions... Disturbing to see is how agressively and relentless they defended the official version... as long as there are people out there like that, humanity will never have a chance to true freedom, democracy and human rights as these people make it easy for politicians and people in power to play us like puppets
The biggest downer ever for me though was to read that David's and Hannah's parents claimed to be satisfied with the horrifying blunders made during this stitchup. This, to me, is insane.
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Here's the video link to the press conference
Well well, considering Burmese and Thai relations were supposed to of been strengthened now that their governments are so...similar (in some respects) this is very surprising. Burma straight out calling it BS and that their boys are innocent.
I'm a bit sad that my home nation won't also divulge their own investigations findings, I guess it is a matter of 'diplomacy' but I think that there's more to gain for Thailand through close relations with their immediate neighbors than there is with Britain.
Maybe, just maybe, there is a glimmer of hope for these boys. But, sadly, less closure for the families of Hannah and David.
The families of David and Hannah don't deserve a closure that has been ridden out on innocent peoples' backs!
It is their own fault that they won't get closure because they have been silent throughout the whole mayhem, when even a blind person could see that the investigation is going south with the true murderers walking and two burmese patsy children being beaten to confession in a "safe house". It would be the duty of any concerning parent to fight for the truth, not push for "closure" leaving alone announcing in public that they were satisfied with this absolutely unbelievable mess of an investigation!
Like I posted many times - if I were the father of David or Hannah, I would have been there myself, turning the island inside out along with my own private investigation team and good friends from Nakhon Si Thammarat. After that, the true murderes would have been brought to a "safe house" in the suburbs of Bangkok, where I would spend a week with them, my toolbox and a camera to record some nice memories to watch and calm me down whenever grief and sadness about my child being killed would set in. That would be my closure!
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catsanddogs, on 14 Dec 2014 - 11:34, said:thailandchilli, on 14 Dec 2014 - 11:07, said:
***needed some of the starting quotes****
Hard to imagine but easy enough to stage by the puppet masters
And a punch with one of those vile rings (whatever they're called) might be likely to cause both the bruise and the the cut at the same time.
There may have been more than one person wearing one of those rings that night. I came across the attached photo some time ago. It is from the man's own FB page.
Isn't that the RTP "friend" of the AC bar owner who joined in to threaten and chase Sean into the 7Eleven? (the f----r on the right)
Photo taken by Sean from behind the 7Eleven counter - left owner of AC bar known as a violent weapons lover. Right his friend who (how convenient) is a Koh Tao policeman...
He seems to wear the rings with the ray teeth on both hands!
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@jdinaisa, AleG, JTJ
I've asked once before, don't recall getting a reply so I'll ask again.
Why are you guys defending the RTP / prosecution case so, so, so very much against practically every poster on the board? It goes beyond natural instinct and reaction for impartial observers with non-vested interests. Pretty much every one of your posts the last couple of days have been on related threads (according to TV search function).
Are you so incensed by conspiracy theories that you have taken it upon yourselves to crusade against it?
Any logical and sane thinking person can see that the amount of arguments that you guys are putting up are completely beyond normal reason. Not only that but it has become extremely annoying (though sadly within TV rules). I will wager that never in the history of TV have the same posters been put on ignore lists by so many other posters is so short a time.
Whatever your reasons or intentions may be, I fear that they will only have the opposite reaction to that you desire.
Well put! BRAVO!!!!!
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Blablah, blablahblahbla, blahbla, hihihihi, mako doday chokey, blabla uuuhlaah! Hahahaha, manki dolay, doday chokey, hihihihiii! Blahblah, blahblablabla....
Thailand... Hub of Blahblah!
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I can't help it, but the video looks like a fake to me, sorry... If he was not hit or was dragged along by the oncoming car, then his body positioning after the car has fully passed is wrong. But despite this, the fall and impact looks unnatural... Dunno, but something is wrong here.
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Sometimes it really amazes me as to how much effort people are willing to go to for such a small amount of illegal money
It's really not that hard to earn 40,000 baht
Was about to type the same...
nice footnote about "knowing people"... I like it!
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I think that Thais are possibly the last ones in a cue with the right to complain about other people's behaviour! I am not fond of the Chinese either, screaming and shouting in a 7Eleven all the way from the cash counter to their friends back at the fridges. But those are the "quality tourists" Thailand was so desperately asking for, no?... while scaring the Essaan family-supporting longtimers away, utilizing dodgy visa rules and regulations...
At least the Chinese are happy with throwing hot noodles, while the Thais opt for slashing taxi guests to death with a machete over a 40 Baht taxi fare, stick a knife into a foreigner's heart who refuses to stop singing on stage, bashing tourists' heads in and rape them, with police covering up their wrongdoings, shooting wife and mother in law in broad daylight, accepting Buddhist monks taking cash and goodies in exchange for lottery numbers, treating Burmese workers and employees like dirt, Thais misbehaving in traffic 24/7, ripping off tourists 24/7 and telling foreigners to f.... off to their home countries if they don't like to be taken advantage of, etc. etc....
You get what you ask for, Thailand. Now deal with it!!!!!!!!
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Wow! Great police work - taking in an outcast who possible never hurt nor will hurt anyone ever... why? Because he was smoking pot and looks like a walking advert for Evil Yke's Bamboo Tattoo Studio!
Another perfect example of where Thais put their priorities... If you can't or want solve double murder and rape cases, better jail a pot smoking foreigner with a faible for knives... It's pathetic beyond believe!!!!
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This is a case in which the parents are confident in the police work performed during the investigation? You must be kidding!!!!!
Yes, after being briefed by professional UK investigators that had access to the actual evidence, witnesses and facts of the case.
It takes a lot of hubris for armchair detectives that have access to only conflicting reports and partial information regarding the case to think themselves more informed than them.
Okeydokey... then you certainly also know that the british investigators have been a full 2 TWO hours on the island before they went home again to provide their report?
You also have nothing substancial to add - pal !!! It;s not armchair's detectives' work to list and point out all the errors in the investigation but simple logic. Stop posting, if you can't show more than brainless babble about armchair detectives. Look at the facts and start using your brain, man!
You are just proving my point by claiming that the UK investigators were on the island for only two hours, that is false; don't take my word for it, search for "British authorities at Koh Tao crime scene" and read the article carefully. Your premises are false, any conclusion you derive from them are going to be invalid.
After you find out that you were wrong, perhaps you should show some integrity and apologize for your second paragraph.
Aleg - the Times Magazine article proving my mentioned two hour beach picnic performed by UK investigators has been deleted, but I trust that some of my friends here on TV will post another lead. Until then - NO apology
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It is rather disturbing to see that some posters are trying to white-wash an investigation that has been a major cluster.... ahemm, "kerfuffle" right from the very start, with prime suspects walking all over the crime scene, giving them plenty of time and opportunity to remove compelling evidence and planting false leads...
And this was only the beginning!
Correct me if I am wrong, but did the investigation not troddle on like in the following?
After that we had raids in all Burmese camps on Koh Tao and all Burmese, including the patsies (seen on photos of the DNA test day with one of them being swapped even on one of the photos) and later the police infos that all Burmese DNA samples were negative (including the patsies' samples!) and no phones, clothes, etc. related to the crime scene were found.
An english backpacker (Alan Ware) was hunted down, apprehended and questioned, there was a bloody trouser, but after a DNA test of the blood stains it was claimed that there was no relation to the crime and he was set free, despite the fact that witnesses saw him strolling around in the area where the murders happened on that very night.
Later, another foreigner (Sean McAnna) was hunted by a prime suspect (owner of AC bar, who was all over the crime scene from hour one onwards) and his corrupt RTP pal under death threats into a 7Eleven, being told they would hang him an pin the double murder on him. This person had the same shallow stab wounds as the victim (David had nine of them on his head and shoulder). Sean, carrying a guitar sprinkled with blood, was later also questioned and (despite his claims that the AC bar owner wants to kill him and pin the murder on him) set free. The chase suggests that he did see soemthing he should not have seen... A possible key murder witness was simply sent away by the RTP...
An island VIP, and son of head mafiosi on Koh Tao, seen on CCTV cameras, disappears in the night after the murders and shows up in the early morning hours in his university in Bkk, with fellow students claiming that he had scratch marks on his upper torso and arms. He takes about a week off (allowing the wounds to heal) and is (despite having an arrest warrant open) not apprehended by police. He reappears a week later to claim his innocence and refuses together with his uncle (who was another prime suspect) to give a DNA test. The police accepts this, the suspects are set free. Later anyone pointing fingers at them are threatened by the corrupt RTP with legal action. Thais as well as foreigners continue to post even more compelling evidence against these suspects who claim their innocence, despite the threats, with facebook site CSI LA sending more and more witness statements and compelling evidence against these prime suspects, but to no avail. One of these suspects was accused of a rape attempt by a foreign blonde young girl who looks similar to Hannah about a year earlier. Charges were dropped by the corrupt Koh Tao RTP officers.
News emerge about the corrupt KT RTP trying to bribe a Koh Tao taxi driver into a false witness statement, offering him approx. 700.000 THB for that. He refuses and goes public (Respect!!! A great man!!!!!).
More photos appear on social media, with a fat guy mocking these shocking murders and rape by posing with a garden hoe in front of a shag, with a stupid grin on his face. This person is known as violent and witnesses claim he was partying with the victims at the night of the murders. He wears a ring with a ray bone in it that could have inflicted the shallow stab marks on David's face, which the RTP would like to overlook (they never mentioned them until CSI LA spoke about it) but after a brief chat with the police he's set free.
A Thai football team finally is being targeted as possible victims, while the S-storm against the number one suspect, high profile VIP mafia son, on social media continues. Police states that they have compelling evidence against VIP Mafia brat and his uncle and BAM!!!! The next day our Burmese patsies are brought to the safe house, kicked and beaten by a pancake vendor who acted as translator while even speaking a different accent, almost a different language and who hates Burmese of the same ascend as the patsies, since he is their ethnic enemy. He together with the RTP threaten the Burmese men to burn them alive, electrocute them, kill them, etc. if they don't sign the confession. They give in.
The patsies are paraded in front of media and puppeteered around the crime scene in an "reenactment" that makes the actors of Monty Python look like beginners. Not even the direction of where they were accessing the crime scene from were clear, with police and burmese pointing in different directions what luckily was frozen forever on a photo that appeared on the net minutes after...
Shall I go on???
And this is a "perfect" open and shut case? This is a case in which the parents are confident in the police work performed during the investigation? You must be kidding!!!!!
This is a case in which the parents are confident in the police work performed during the investigation? You must be kidding!!!!!
Yes, after being briefed by professional UK investigators that had access to the actual evidence, witnesses and facts of the case.
It takes a lot of hubris for armchair detectives that have access to only conflicting reports and partial information regarding the case to think themselves more informed than them.
Okeydokey... then you certainly also know that the british investigators have been a full 2 TWO hours on the island before they went home again to provide their report?
You also have nothing substancial to add - pal !!! It;s not armchair's detectives' work to list and point out all the errors in the investigation but simple logic. Stop posting, if you can't show more than brainless babble about armchair detectives. Look at the facts and start using your brain, man!
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It is rather disturbing to see that some posters are trying to white-wash an investigation that has been a major cluster.... ahemm, "kerfuffle" right from the very start, with prime suspects walking all over the crime scene, giving them plenty of time and opportunity to remove compelling evidence and planting false leads...
And this was only the beginning!
Correct me if I am wrong, but did the investigation not troddle on like in the following?After that we had raids in all Burmese camps on Koh Tao and all Burmese, including the patsies (seen on photos of the DNA test day with one of them being swapped even on one of the photos) and later the police infos that all Burmese DNA samples were negative (including the patsies' samples!) and no phones, clothes, etc. related to the crime scene were found.
An english backpacker (Alan Ware) was hunted down, apprehended and questioned, there was a bloody trouser, but after a DNA test of the blood stains it was claimed that there was no relation to the crime and he was set free, despite the fact that witnesses saw him strolling around in the area where the murders happened on that very night.
Later, another foreigner (Sean McAnna) was hunted by a prime suspect (owner of AC bar, who was all over the crime scene from hour one onwards) and his corrupt RTP pal under death threats into a 7Eleven, being told they would hang him an pin the double murder on him. This person had the same shallow stab wounds as the victim (David had nine of them on his head and shoulder). Sean, carrying a guitar sprinkled with blood, was later also questioned and (despite his claims that the AC bar owner wants to kill him and pin the murder on him) set free. The chase suggests that he did see soemthing he should not have seen... A possible key murder witness was simply sent away by the RTP...
An island VIP, and son of head mafiosi on Koh Tao, seen on CCTV cameras, disappears in the night after the murders and shows up in the early morning hours in his university in Bkk, with fellow students claiming that he had scratch marks on his upper torso and arms. He takes about a week off (allowing the wounds to heal) and is (despite having an arrest warrant open) not apprehended by police. He reappears a week later to claim his innocence and refuses together with his uncle (who was another prime suspect) to give a DNA test. The police accepts this, the suspects are set free. Later anyone pointing fingers at them are threatened by the corrupt RTP with legal action. Thais as well as foreigners continue to post even more compelling evidence against these suspects who claim their innocence, despite the threats, with facebook site CSI LA sending more and more witness statements and compelling evidence against these prime suspects, but to no avail. One of these suspects was accused of a rape attempt by a foreign blonde young girl who looks similar to Hannah about a year earlier. Charges were dropped by the corrupt Koh Tao RTP officers.
News emerge about the corrupt KT RTP trying to bribe a Koh Tao taxi driver into a false witness statement, offering him approx. 700.000 THB for that. He refuses and goes public (Respect!!! A great man!!!!!).
More photos appear on social media, with a fat guy mocking these shocking murders and rape by posing with a garden hoe in front of a shag, with a stupid grin on his face. This person is known as violent and witnesses claim he was partying with the victims at the night of the murders. He wears a ring with a ray bone in it that could have inflicted the shallow stab marks on David's face, which the RTP would like to overlook (they never mentioned them until CSI LA spoke about it) but after a brief chat with the police he's set free.
A Thai football team finally is being targeted as possible victims, while the S-storm against the number one suspect, high profile VIP mafia son, on social media continues. Police states that they have compelling evidence against VIP Mafia brat and his uncle and BAM!!!! The next day our Burmese patsies are brought to the safe house, kicked and beaten by a pancake vendor who acted as translator while even speaking a different accent, almost a different language and who hates Burmese of the same ascend as the patsies, since he is their ethnic enemy. He together with the RTP threaten the Burmese men to burn them alive, electrocute them, kill them, etc. if they don't sign the confession. They give in.
The patsies are paraded in front of media and puppeteered around the crime scene in an "reenactment" that makes the actors of Monty Python look like beginners. Not even the direction of where they were accessing the crime scene from were clear, with police and burmese pointing in different directions what luckily was frozen forever on a photo that appeared on the net minutes after...
Shall I go on???
And this is a "perfect" open and shut case? This is a case in which the parents are confident in the police work performed during the investigation? You must be kidding!!!!! -
"Make foreigners stop bringing money to Thailand - until Thailand gets honest and safe" pipe dream, my friend - a pipe dream...
Gunshot... really. 
Because of splatter pattern... you have no idea what you are talking about. Evidence for this nonsense besides your uneducated guesses?
AirAsia flight QZ8501 from Indonesia to Singapore missing
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Sad to read this - since the plane was over water at the time, I fear that there's no hope...
Perhaps they managed to do an emergency landing on water, but then there shouls be EPIRB signals from one of the life rafts...