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3 minutes ago, MarkBR said:

Benefit fraud does not begin to equal the amount avoided & evaded by the rich

Avoiding is not a crime. Evading is. Ask Capone!

5 minutes ago, jori123 said:

DWP not interested, use UK address,not sanctionable.  Can change address using Skype

Ah, ok. Now I'm with you. Use a UK address. Next!

13 minutes ago, jori123 said:

Not State Pension,if u can show please do

Agreed. The most massive benefit fraud is Universal Credit. I believe the figure was, a few years back, in the region of £17 billion. Not to encourage "fraud", but a few pensioners being economical with the truth as to their geographical whereabouts is hardly likely to cost HM gov more than a few 000 quid. One of the arguments they use to shoot down protests regarding the unfreezing of pensions is the potential cost to the exchequer, which they estimate would be way into the £ billions. So turning a blind eye to the odd oldie claiming a little bit more than the widow(er)'s mite would seem a much cheaper option.

All this gets discussed endlessly on threads popping up every year on AN. One more for the archive!

1 minute ago, jori123 said:

Only if you inform,

 

Only if you inform, do not inform?  no nothing, no checking, unlike means tested benefits

Hold on. You've moved abroad. Somehow, the DWP has found this out. Your pension gets frozen. You moved back to the UK, or tell them you have? You have an address there that can forward their communications to you?

I don't get your plan. Move out then pretend you haven't, or move out and pretend to move back? Or move out, move back, and quietly out again, leaving you back where you started.

15 minutes ago, jori123 said:

This is State Pension

It is black and white,   State  Pension, no punishment, be specific tho,do not quote other benefits

I meant by "warnings", the warnings HM government gives in general about moving abroad, not warnings about possible illegalities. For instance, proper planning, health care, emergency funds, return trips, loved ones etc etc.

7 minutes ago, jori123 said:

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Np risk ,no punishment ,nothing

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And no rise! I read the whole thread. If you leave again, your pension reverts to the very first payment amount, ie pre frozen, with no increases.

And you have somewhere in the UK to stay for 6 months? Is the UK affordable? And the cost of the return flight? That alone will hardly be covered by any rise you'll see while back in the UK. Is it really worth it?

Return flight to Philippines about 6,000 THB. Ring the DWP. Tell them you've moved there. Pay pension into Wise account. YMMV and I would expect you to spend at least 6 months there...I'm not advising breaking any laws. It's only a suggestion which probably won't be useful to many. Like tax avoidance for the rich. It's not tax evasion. There's a huge difference.

5 minutes ago, AhFarangJa said:

NO, WRONG, I for one was not aware of this blatant discrimination, like thousands of others, so crawl back under the stone you squirmed from.

Well, it's there in black and white for all to see on the government's website. With warnings about moving abroad and the possible consequences. Ignorance is not a sin, nor a crime, but it won't get you off the hook.

1 minute ago, jori123 said:

claim unfrozen   no punishment   of course if u know different post it    sp that is

Sure, use a UK address or whatever. Many do. None of my business. But I don't pay UK tax on account of having stopped work there and having left 9 years ago so it would look a bit odd if I used a UK address for the DWP.

2 minutes ago, jori123 said:

Not enforceable you could show the SP rules  Thank you   remember SP

What's not enforceable? You still have to provide an address. Oh you mean a charge of pension fraud is unenforceable? Sure, but why take the risk?

Just now, jori123 said:

Not enforceable you could show the SP rules  Thank you   remember SP

Meaning?

5 minutes ago, G_Money said:

I post from my IPhone.  Quick replies.  And normally in a hurry.  No desktop for me.

What, the famous "Made in China" iPhone, pride of America? Give me Android any day. And as for "Apple Intelligence"? 55555!

47 minutes ago, jori123 said:

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https://aseannow.com/topic/1318899-uk-frozen-pension-returning-to-uk-and-going-overseas-again-at-a-later-date/?do=getNewCommenton

EVER the laws covering benefit fraud (specifically Social Security Administration Act 1992) EXCLUDE the state pension as a 'Sanctionable Benefit'.  This means that if you commit state pension fraud your pension cannot be stopped or reduced.  Your pension will simply be adjusted back to the correct 'frozen' level going forward.  You will not have to pay anything back. Theoretically, if you go back to UK you

There is no frozen pension as such, certainly not for receiving one in TH.believe what you want to believe

The UK pension is effectively frozen at the rate originally received by the pensioner, if the pensioner moves abroad and lives outside any one of the countries that has an agreement with DWP that includes increases. The list can be found on the DWP website, or on .gov.uk. Most EU countries are included, Philippines, and I believe Turkey are amongst those that are included, but see below:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/state-pensions-annual-increases-if-you-live-abroad/countries-where-we-pay-an-annual-increase-in-the-state-pension

26 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Spell check 

 

but if that’s all you got, that’s all you got

Yeah, you could try proofing your posts. You do know how to do that, right?

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

Lay off the bottle for awhile.  It’ll do you good.

"a while" not "awhile". TT old bean. For many years.

5 minutes ago, G_Money said:

P.I. is a dump.  You’ll fit right in.  A match made in heaven.

A dump thanks largely to colonialist Spain and the US, right? In any case, these beggars are hardly in a position to be choosers, are they?

17 minutes ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Britain seems to need and scrape all the money it can as the UK is giving billions of dollars to Ukraine, to the American led coalition wars in the Middle East and so on. Like many western nations, England prefers to spend money all over but not for it's own.

The frozen pension policy has been around for about 70 years. You're just hijacking the conversation with anti US rhetoric.

42 minutes ago, Gknrd said:

That is been going on for ever, why retire there if you loose?  Best to make it seem like you live in the UK I would think. Surely there are ways around it.

Yes. Live in the Philippines. It's been said before a million times. These fools should have known about the freeze.

2 hours ago, G_Money said:

That is pretty f——- up. What difference does it make where they live if one is vetted and qualified.

 

Glad America doesn’t have that policy but if Harris wins anything is possible to include complete forfeiture to give to those who refuse to work.  Socialism is what she represents.

I hope she cuts you off for ever

Is this country a war zone, or what? Complete mayhem everywhere you look.

4 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Once again the root cause of this commotion is the flirtatious Thai women. 

That's a joke right?

1 hour ago, thecyclist said:

No ,they don't. Headquarters have the best rates. 

Go to their website, you are able to compare the rates of different branches. 

The default rates are those of the main branch. 

 

You used to be able to compare on their app, but I haven't used it for a long while.

2 hours ago, mdr224 said:

And if not, the west is about to go full retard

As evinced by you and @JonnyF. What a pair! You see Trump as the saviour of western civilization. Even Putin wouldn't go that far. Trump is a boorish, uncultured oaf. He has no claims on western civilization. In fact, he has nothing to do with western civilization. Maybe it would be better if the US cut all ties with Europe. Seems we have nothing in common under a Trump administration.

1 hour ago, Mike Teavee said:

I thought the Bangkok Bank in NY & London were Commercial Banking only nowadays.

I haven't used the London one for a long time, maybe 15 years. They weren't a retail branch but they did handle overseas transactions. I sent money regularly when I was purchasing a land lease and off plan house in Thailand.

4 minutes ago, LALes said:

Bangkok Bank is the way to go for Americans.  They have an office in New York that handles foreign currency moves and the cost is minimal.

I asked in my Bangkok Bank branch in Pattaya about it and their procedures were a nightmare compared to KT. I'm non US. KT was utter simplicity. But bkk bank has an office in London too who were always very helpful. I was able to increase my transfer amounts by producing a copy of my HMRC tax assessment. Clean money, supposely!