bradiston

23 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

No they dont (have more brains than this).

They believe any MSM lies/distortion about Trump - because they need to hate him.

I read somewhere that many of them have 'Daddy Issues'. 

You read somewhere? I read somewhere that all Trump supporters are ESN with IQs of less than 50. Can't remember where I read it. Probably on non MSM, if that exists for the toxic majority of Trump supporters.

On 10/7/2024 at 2:14 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

He didn’t not hand himself in, he absconded and hid.

 

There is no right to not answer a court summons and hence that was another law he broke.

 

 

Why are you grinding this axe? What's the point? This parrot is dead. It is no more. It has passed on. Assange is free.

I think they went bust. Maybe bought by another airline. Flew with them a long time ago. Cheap and cheerful back then. Online reports don't make it very clear of their current status. Filed for bankruptcy in July 2020.

2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

 

No, you are mistaken.  There are far more hate crimes aimed at Jews compared to Arabs amd Muslims in the U.S.  

 

"The following data about anti-Jewish and religiously-biased hate crimes in the United States has been excerpted from the annual Report on Hate Crimes released by the Uniform Crime Reporting Program of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

The data for 2023 came from 16,009 law enforcement agencies. The totals show 11,862 hate crime incidents involving 13,829 related offenses were reported, affecting 13,857 victims. Incidents of religious bias represented 24% of the total – 2,699 incidents and 2,967 offenses affecting 3,121 victims. The largest categories of religion included:

• Anti-Jewish incidents: 68%
• Anti-Islamic incidents: 9%
• Anti-Sikh incidents: 5%
• Anti-Catholic incidents: 3%

Overall, 14% of all victims are Jews, and 66% of all religious hate crime victims are Jews."    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/statistics-on-religious-hate-crimes

 

A section of the chart  on antisemitic hate crimes:

 

 

Keep in mind there are an estimated 5.8 million Jews in the U.S., or 2.4% of the U.S. population.  On a proportional basis, Jews are twice as likely to experience a hate crime than Blacks.  It's also important to note that most hate crimes directed towars Jews are crimes against property, such as swastikas painted on synagogues or homes. The inverted triangle is a symbol used to mark prisoners in Nazi concentration camps and has been adopted by Hamas to mark Jewish targets.  Pro-Palestinian groups in the U.S. use it as well.

 

 

However,  Jews who wear clothing that makes them "visibly Jewish,"  whether a skullcap (kippa, yarmulke) or full ultra orthodox dress, have increasingly become the targets of physical violence,especially in NYC.

 

 

It goes back further than that:

 

"In the first millennium of the Christian era, leaders in the European Christian (Catholic) hierarchy developed or solidified as doctrine ideas that: all Jews were responsible for the crucifixion of Christ; the destruction of the Temple by the Romans and the scattering of the Jewish people was punishment both for past transgressions and for continued failure to abandon their faith and accept Christianity.  In the tenth and eleventh centuries, these doctrines about Jews were hardened ..."     https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/antisemitism-in-history-from-the-early-church-to-1400

I said since October 7th, right?

33 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Point taken. He's obviously not Hitler, at least not the last time I checked. But his rants about immigrants being a subspecies - Hitler's phrase was "untermensch" - and somehow genetically infected/inferior, are Hitlerian.  If Trump was talking about Jews in this language, I would be very surprised if his phone didn't blow off his other ear. He'd be arrested for racially motivated hate speech. I posted a link to a source that ran a piece on his ravings. It was on Al Jazeera.

 

https://aje.io/4rx0oj

Wrong link.

https://aje.io/3o3vl9

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Useless.

I just mentioned them in response to the OP's post. Check that out. I'm not here to be of use to you.

1 hour ago, johng said:

I have not referred to him as Hilter  others have on many occasions

literally, roughly, vaguely, allegorically,indirectly and approximately

tried to tie Trump to Hitler  I suggested we call those persons "conspiracy theorist"

Point taken. He's obviously not Hitler, at least not the last time I checked. But his rants about immigrants being a subspecies - Hitler's phrase was "untermensch" - and somehow genetically infected/inferior, are Hitlerian.  If Trump was talking about Jews in this language, I would be very surprised if his phone didn't blow off his other ear. He'd be arrested for racially motivated hate speech. I posted a link to a source that ran a piece on his ravings. It was on Al Jazeera.

https://aje.io/4rx0oj

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

The first two have better but much smaller economies than the UK. They also had the sense to negotiate their own relationship outside of full EU membership -ever wonder why?

Ask the OP.

10 minutes ago, johng said:

I'm sure you are intelligent enough to work it out for yourself ?   but just a hint refer to the post directly above yours in this very thread.

I replied to the reply to that one. My comment was addressed to you. Comparing him literally as opposed to comparing him what? Roughly? Vaguely? Allegorically? Indirectly? Approximately?

1 hour ago, James105 said:

 

The UN rulings are non binding advisories and are not law so there was no need for the UK to do anything.   It was the wrong thing to do.  They didn't even ask the islanders.   Mauritius has never owned the islands and have no claim to them and not just that, they are an ally to a strategic rival in China.   On top of that the UK will now be paying rent on this which will be an embarrassing amount of money which is why Labour are not telling how much as though they can keep it secret indefinately - that is how stupid they are.   

 

This Labour government has made many stupid, ill conceived, embarrassing choices since they gained power that make the UK poorer, weaker and less secure.  This is just one of so, so many.  They are out of their depth and out of control.   Absolute clown show.  

Ok. List please the "many stupid, ill conceived, embarrassing (sic) choices" Labour has made, seeing as there are "so, so many".

The ICJ rulings were damning in every respect, all 7 of them, against the UK. The International Tribunal of the Sea ditto. We have no claim there. You don't like China's behaviour yet you would follow the same route. You've no leg to stand on. It's just Rule Britannia. Falklands Mk II.

1 hour ago, johng said:

So trump is not literally Hitler ? 

what to call those comparing him literally to Hitler......

conspiracy theorists ?

Comparing him literally? Explain!

HM government has lost every single case brought before the various international courts. They castigate other nations who don't abide by such rulings (China in the "South China" Sea, Putin, Duterte, and a host of others who refuse to recognise the jurisdiction of the ICC, the ICJ, the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea, and the UN General Assembly). The current administration's bold move to actually abide by them is the right thing to do. Their position was untenable. No doubt there'll be howls of displeasure from the US.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagos_Archipelago

48 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The 2016 election was scheduled according to the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

 

What conspiracy turns Trump into Hitler?

I read it as heavily ironic, not to be taken literally!

50 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

How shallow. And Wikpedia, heavens. God forbid you read a book.

 

I guess you arent familiar with what the National Socialist platform was. Nor Leninism and Stalinism.

Why don't you read the Wikipedia article? Hypertext (as in HTML, right?) is extremely useful for following links, sources, updates, questionable entries etc etc. You don't get that from your Right Wing hand book for arguing on public forums, or Trolling for Beginners, or Ignorance, where do I sign up handbook, now do you?

The Wikipedia article on the Nazi party strangely enough does go into that, but because you refuse to read any "leftist, woke, libtard" links, you'll never know. So what books do you recommend I read? Nazism 101? Stalinism for beginners? How I learned to love Lenin and never look back?

The National Socialist party was set up to counter the Marxist Leninism version of socialism. Even though Russia and Germany were allies at the outset of WWII (the Ribbentrop/Molotov pact was a non aggression pact they invaded Poland), it didn't last long, when Hitler decided to invade Russia. Nazis and communists (Marxist Leninists) ripped each other to shreds later, quite literally. They remain to this day sworn enemies.

3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You were not surprised that the first two to criticize the article are associated with "conspiracy" claims were you?

 

 

Considering the claims you make and the narrative you  spew, it is not hard to see where you get your inspiration, right comrade?

 

 

Assange was not and has never been a journalist. He  was a cyber criminal who made his living from hacking and  the use of the information stolen.

 

Like any self respecting government does.

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

There ya go, changing the goalposts again.  First you claim there's not many.  Then it's well, maybe there's a lot, but they're not serious.  Next it'll be, okay they're serious, but they didn't change anything...

 

You just don't get it, do you? The goalposts are part of the conspiracy!

55 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I find that the Left hates to be reminded of National Socialism, even though their policies go hand in hand.

 

Your insults are weak and boring.

It's infantile to suggest because the word "socialism" appears in the full title of the Nazi party they were somehow putting into practice a Marxist socialist agenda. Hitler created the Nazi party to fight the Marxist notion of socialism, not to put it into practice. He was a sworn enemy of Marxism. You and he have more in common than you think.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

17 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

UFO's were conspiracy theories right up until the US Gov admitted they exist. 
 

Slightly economical with the truth, that statement. It's not what the US government said.

54 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You mean like Biden's senile, the laptop is Hunter's and there are vaccine side effects?

 

I could rattle off a hundred more, just from the past few years.  But you'd have to hold your nose and click on some non-approved sources to get wind of them.

 

Hardly rank as conspiracy theories though, do they? More simply differences of opinion. Usually a conspiracy theory has a motive for the conspiracy. Biden's stepped down, the laptop saga is way beyond my non US comprehension, and what vaccine doesn't possibly have side effects? I mean, there are side effects from breathing. The oxygen will eventually kill you! Yes, it's true! Check it out!

54 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You left out a bunch but hey, no one is denying the greats of Western Civilization. But socialism is a disease and thank god its not in the usa.

It's only viewed that way in the US by the hard right. Some would say greed is a disease. Certainly obesity which the US is stuffed to the eyeballs with, is. And drug use. Junk 'n drugs. Great nation you have there. And I'm not even an American, or Western, hater. I rank the 50s and 60s in the US as 2 of the greatest decades in recent history. Well, I was born in 1950, so I guess I would, wouldn't I? I value European culture. I think it's man at his utmost. I read missives from the western haters, who to a person, are westerners, everyday on these forums. But have they been to Florence? Venice? Chartres? How dare they describe the west as "decadent" as Medvedev did? It's their homeland!

The Jews were being given a hard time in Europe since way back when - the 14th century? Nothing to do with Marxist Leninism. Many Jews became prominent socialists and communists. And if you think I'm a Stalinist, think again. I don't knowingly support any anti Jewish movement. I have the utmost respect for Jews, their humour, their intelligence, their strength. But of course there's a catch, which is that, when converted to nationalism, it becomes a whole different ball game, unfortunately. But the UK appeared to face annihilation also this century, but was spared, miraculously. I'll not forget the US's part in that. Ever!

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont speak for any Jews, they can speak for themselves. And all of you European leftists are the intellectual descendants of Italian Fascism, National Socialism and Marxism-Leninism which has been instrumental in pursuing a jew hating agenda, as have their moronic leftist/muslim allies here.

 

You better check your hate crime figures. All of my Jewish friends are splurging on good stuff (Tavors, AUGs, custom Colt 1911s) and blowing through some ammo 55555555

Oh 55555. Good stuff? Drivel. Never heard of Bacon, Locke, Voltaire, Rousseau, Kant, Hegel, Marcuse, Marx (yes, Karl himself), Lukacs, Althusser, Heidegger, Kierkegaard, Sartre and a million other European philosophers and writers? So damn' ignorant. Of your own history, let alone European.

On 10/7/2024 at 7:03 AM, impulse said:

 

It's a piece of drivel, conveniently forgetting revelations in the Twitter files, Zuck coming forward (4 years later) and apologizing for squelching accurate information, 51 "intelligence experts" claiming the laptop was fake, claims that the vaccine was "one shot, then you can visit grandma" (and that there would be no adverse side effects), shutting down restaurants was "following the science", but keeping the liquor stores open was okay, that walking on the beach (in the winter) is crazy dangerous, and on and on.

 

Way too many conspiracy theories have been coming true, especially since voice has been given to people outside the MSM.   Voices that they'd rather you not listen to.

 

List these "way too many conspiracy theories" that have miraculously "come true". Of course it's a stupid remark, because conspiracy theorists will never admit they were wrong. Trump is a shining example. The COVID crowd another. A hoax? Do me a favour! Ask the families of those who lost loved ones. Sandy Hook? Fat slob Alex Jones came a cropper there for perpetuating his filthy lies. Deep state? Kidnapped kids? Qanon? Your source material IS MSM, so you must spend many hours poring over it looking for yet another theory, like in "A Beautiful Mind". Seen it? Linking up totally disparate and unrelated ads and headlines in newspapers and magazines? At least Nash was a genius and came up with his original idea despite his very troubled mind. I don't see any such brilliance in you guys. Just the old chip on the shoulder, bitter, resentful biting of the hand that you feed from. Nothing original. Nothing worth reading.

All media ends up as MSM. It's a consumable. Copy is consumable, whatever it's origin. It's inescapable.

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Best thing for Jews in America is the Second Amendment.

 

Something the Left hates. Wonder why?

Firstly, how do you define "the Left". Does it really exist in America? To an outsider like me, it seems there is no such thing. You mean it as an insult, which it isn't outside of the US. You speak for all American Jews it seems. But only to further your invective against your construct of "the Left". Even if it did exist, how many Jews count themselves part of it? Jews have always been part of, leaders of, in some cases, a strong tradition of intellectually independent liberal thinking. It's Arabs and Muslims who have borne the brunt of hate crimes since October 7th, just as they did after 9/11. They might well benefit from 2A. But that's what it was designed to do, right? One size fits all.

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure you are aware, but when an individual breaks the law they don’t get to have a say in the sentence.

 

 

 

It's exactly what I was saying. He had no idea what his sentence might have been if he'd handed himself in. So, he didn't.