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I posted this pic earlier in the discussion. The problem worldwide currently is that all EVs are delayed due to multiple problems: rampant demand for EVs due to rising cost of fossil fuel; chip shortages; battery supply cannot meet demand; Shanghai Covid lockdown; Ukraine wiring harness factories have been shuttered by the Russian invasion, forcing them to curtail production. MG has told me that the made in Thailand HS PHEV is the only car they have stock of, all others are delayed 6 months plus

they could not give me any firm dates

I spoke with a number of senior BYD staff (not sales girls) at the recent Korat EV show and they could not give me any firm dates. Wheels are in motion but there is clearly a lot of Thai paperwork to wade through first.

Maybe time to post a general introduction to EVs in Thailand for those who might be interested. An MG would a good place to start as they are probably the most established brand for EVs in Thailand. An MG EP EV (known as MG 5 in Europe) is a good value car with 23% Government EV discount 771,000 Baht on the road including a free Home charger installed. The NEDC quoted range is 380km from it's 50.3kWh battery. On a long trip you could stop into an MG showroom and 20 minutes for a toilet break and a free coffee would add another 150km of range, but most of your charging would be done at home. A second TOU meter would allow you to charge using cheap rate overnight electric 100% overnight charge would cost 132 Baht to give you up to 380km of range. If like me you have solar, you can dump excess solar production into your car and drive it for free. Where can you charge? MG dealers are the place to go for fast DC charging But MG isn't the only place to charge (thanks to @Sophon for posting this from evat.or.th ) Alternatively a MG HS PHEV would give you more luxury, a range of 70km on Battery which is enough for most daily journeys and an ICE

As I have previously posted here (page 1 of this thread) BYD plans to build a right hand drive EV factory in Thailand and so would be eligible for Thai EV incentives They have just launched a BYD Thailand website which gives us an indication of what cars will be available in Thailand. https://www.bydthai.com/en/ The car that interests me most is the BYD Han with it's 76.9 kWh Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) Blade Batteries and V2L (Vehicle to Load). It is also available as a PHEV which is probably explains the reference to 1,400km range in the video below! The base EV model is rear-wheel drive with a reported (NEDC) of 605 km (376 mi). It is powered by a 163 kW (219 hp) electric motor that can accelerate from 0 to 100 kph in 7.9 seconds. There are two versions of this base model: the basic "Luxury" model costs USD $32,800, while the more featured "Majestic" model costs USD 36,500 with extra advanced driver-assistance systems, blind spot detection, better stereo systems and other comfort options. The high-performance "Flagship" model is four-wheel drive with an additional 200 kW (270 hp) front motor, bringing the total power output to 363 kW (487 hp), and reportedly can accelerate from 0 to 100 kph in just 3.9 seconds. It is rated at a NEDC all-electric range of 550 km (340 mi) with more added features than the "Majestic" model, and costs $40,000.

Nothing to do with EVs in Thailand - All the EV chargers I have used in Thailand have worked perfectly.

Tesla decided not to choose Thailand or India for a new factory in Asia when it was looking last year stating both countries lack of government support for EVs. It has now been announced Tesla plans to build an EV and battery storage factory in Indonesia instead. https://electrek.co/2022/05/20/tesla-agrees-build-battery-ev-factory-indonesia-official/

Tesla Company (Thailand) Ltd is now a registered company in Thailand, according to information found on the Department of Business Development’s website. The company registered today, on May 25, with an initial registration capital of 3 million baht. https://thethaiger.com/news/national/tesla-registers-as-a-company-in-thailand

A 7kW wall charger requires at least 7kW of power output so a 10kW inverter and about 10kW of PV. solar PV is about 10 Baht/Watt. 2 x 5kW inverters would cost about 36,000Baht each installation cost vary For info on my system I would suggest looking at my Blog: https://EcoHouseThailand.com My installers FB page is https://www.facebook.com/buachetsolarcell/ This recent video from my channel gives a good overview of my system

I went onto the Tesla website and tried to configure the cheapest RHD model 3 ignoring the fuel saving discount!

Lots of Buzz online about Tesla in Thailand over the last few hours: Tesla has taken an important step to enter the local market. @ekapobkul/Twitter, citing documents dated April 25, reported that the manufacturer has registered to start selling vehicles, solar, and energy storage systems in Thailand. The application was signed by Tesla’s Global Senior Director of Trade Market Access, David Jon Feinstein. The company has indicated that it is registering for sales of new passenger motor vehicles, pick-up trucks, vans, and similar light motor vehicles. https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-expands-to-thailand-by-filing-for-sales-of-vehicles-solar-energy-storage-systems

Benz EQS launched 2 models in Thailand through 4 dealers. EQS 450+ AMG Premium Price ฿8,570,000 EQS 450+ Edition 1 Price ฿8,870,000 Mercedes-Benz has officially announced the sale price of EQS 450+ in Thailand. 2 models are AMG Premium and Edition 1. For importation, it will be imported through four dealers including BKK Group, Benz Praram 3, Primus Autohouse and TTC Mortor.

MG ZS EV Specs and prices

MG update from Korat Show. MG HS PHEV gets a refresh - just seems to be cosmetic outside. It comes in 2 model trims D and X The new model MG ZS EV was there as well and looks great. Much improved inside. The battery capacity has increased from 44kWh to 50.3kWh. Unfortunately we won't be getting the Long Range with the 72.6 kWh battery available in the UK. It also comes in 2 model trims D and X

I agree with you but 11 year old Nissan Leaf (2011) - 24kWh are still selling and they are great as a second car for the school run and trips to the shops

Regularly see comments online saying that EV batteries last less than 10 years. So if that was true an 8 year old Tesla would be cheap as chips, because everybody keeps saying they the batteries are too expensive to replace. Just had look at 8 year old Tesla Model S in the UK on Autotrader 3 year old Tesla Model 3s are similar money to what they cost new 3 years ago!

Video of the Korat Low Carbon City and EV Expo - if you don't speak Thai just watch out for the phrase: "Rot Fi Far Roy %" = electric vehicle 100%

I was a little disappointed with the offering by BYD at Korat on Friday. I was hoping (but not expecting) to see the BYD Seal or BYD Han, but they only bought commercial vehicles: 74 kWh long range but not high luxury taxi e6: The next option was an EV Van - would be great to see Lazada deliveries in one of these: They also had EV Buses and big trucks on display.

Unfortunately the data used in most comparisons of CO2 for ICE and EVs is out of date. They normally state that CO2 per km driven is very similar for EVs and Gasoline powered cars as researchers have traditional only been using CO2 produced by burning Gasoline in the car. More recent research has shown that "well to wheel" CO2 is actually far higher: 3,140 grams per litre for Gasoline see the study "Global carbon intensity of crude oil production" By comparison The International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) calculated that a battery electric car running on the UK grid electricity produces only 35g of CO2 per km https://innovationorigins.com/en/producing-gasoline-and-diesel-emits-more-co2-than-we-thought/

Initial update from the Low Carbon City and EV Expo in Korat Yesterday (A 6 hour round trip for me) Battery swapping station Electric Trucks and Buses:

The Dirty Truth about Combustion Engine Vehicles

Apparently Google translate struggles translating Buddhist Era dates! Noticed it too late edit the post - the year should be 2022 and not 2017!

BYD show at Korat - I plan to visit today 20-22 May 2017 (Booth C6-C8) • From time : 3 pm - 9 pm Activity ground in front of City Hall, Nakhon Ratchasima province https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/lowcarboncityandevexpo As previously mentioned BYD plans right hand drive EV factory for Thailand

The guy I was thinking about sold his Audi to buy and MG5 and wrapped in green Wonder if that might be the new MG5 Scorpio https://carspiritpk.com/mg5-scorpio-launched-in-china/

I agree with @macahoom I have experienced the same electric range that was quoted by MG. Reports from colder countries often quote a different range for winter and summer driving. Many electric cars such as Tesla will preheat the batteries to condition them before arriving at a charging station. https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-410-charging-at-high-and-low-temperatures