Bandersnatch

They can figure out that someone who never post any evidence to backup their claims is a BS merchant. I am not an EV evangelist. I have said many times that EVs are not for everyone. Someone like yourself who has yet to master the ability to use Google to check their facts before posting, well let’s just say that you would find EV charging apps a bit of a challenge.

Lots of rumors on FB about the CyberTruck. The Tesla Thailand website still has the CT as “Learn” not order

HEVs up PHEVs down BEV UP 🆙 🆙 ⬆️

Why don’t you read the 5,000+ comments in this discussion and you will soon discern a pattern. When the discussion is between EV owners or EV owners and those considering EV ownership, the discussion is civil and friendly. Then when EV Haters arrive with their ignorance and lies the tone changes. Why don’t you stick to your discussions about attractive Ladyboys and leave discussions about EVs in Thailand to those who actually know what they’re talking about.

You seem very keen to call people liars, so you had better make sure that you are never caught in a lie yourself. The majority of chargers on PlugShare Thailand are not 3-5kW, so that makes you a liar. The filter is not giving you accurate information and I have explained the reason for that. Most chargers have a photo and can clearly when it’s a DC charger

You came to this discussion about EVs in Thailand with no direct experience of EVs in Thailand claiming that the booming EV market here was about to collapse. You sir are the Troll here “please desist”

The problem with your argument is that secondhand prices in the UK are compared to "List" prices for new cars when nobody pays the full price. Watch the video below to educate yourself Well glad you finally got around to talking about "EVs in Thailand" the title of this discussion. There is an expectation here that you post evidence to support your claims which you failed to do, so it's my job to call you out on the twaddle you just posted. EV sales in Thailand rose last year by over 700% ICE car sales in Thailand fell by 19% Proving that you are talking utter nonsense

Just done the same filter and found very few chargers in my location. Many missing that I knew were over 100kW. I then looked for all chargers over 50kW and it didn't add any more! I think PlugShare relies on users to upload information. It's like Wikipedia for chargers, so maybe once a charger is added, nobody is checking to see if there in any info missing or inaccurate.

You said you had plans to add solar. I gave you examples of cheap solar equipment You said you had plans to buy an EV. I gave you an example of a cheap EV with V2L You said you were aiming for close to complete self-sufficiency on the farm. I gave you information about how we have achieved it. You complained about the poverty in Cambodia. I gave an example where I had created an educational project that has put fresh veggies in the mouths of poor kids everyday for the past 7 years. I regularly contribute to support the poor folk of our village at our local temple, but none of that has been anywhere near as effective as the project at the school. Instead of complaining about poverty, do something about it.

My Seal AWD Performance displayed 100% range of 580km, but when I switched the range display to dynamic it dropped to 560km “I know how you drive” 😳

Haven’t had your morning coffee? That was a bit harsh. I never made any comment about Cambodia which everyone knows is a far poorer country than Thailand overall. I simply said that there is also poverty in NE Thailand. I live close to the Cambodian boarder and see every day the big American Cars with Cambodian plates. The signs in the private hospital here are in Khmer and Thai as most of the patients are from over the boarder. There are clearly also a lot of wealthy Cambodians who live close enough to do their food shopping in Thailand.

There is plenty of poverty in NE Thailand I installed a solar pond pump for them and explained how it worked. This was about 7 years ago and none of the students had seen solar. Now it’s a common sight.

You don’t need to go for a totally off-grid setup like mine. The inverters in the video are now only ฿17k and PV is only ฿6 per Watt. So a 5kW system is going to cost less than ฿50k plus installation. Here in Thailand you can buy a Neta V with V2L for ฿500k for battery backup for your home solar system. I have several video on my EcoHouseThailand channel about my setup. We are 100% off-grid (no meter) we have rainwater harvesting for household and drinking water. We use solar thermal for hot water and solar well pumps to irrigate our fruit trees and veggies. I was asked by a teacher friend to produce a video on Self Sufficiency that he could use with his students:

Put up evidence to support your claims. “Put up or Shut up” “Look at me how smart I am. I might not know anything about solar and EVs but I don’t need to waste my time doing research, I just make <deleted> up and you plebs believe me”

I designed my home to maximize passive cooling via stack effect ventilation and a fly roof to create a venturi effect by funneling wind across my open third floor. I was hoping that this increase wind speed would make domestic vertical axis wind power more viable. There is a video on my channel testing wind speed for wind power and I really don’t think it’s viable in NE Thailand. EVs with V2L and domestic solar are definitely the most viable option. Here is a video from my series on V2L powering my home. I can power my house all night from my car and use less than 10% of the car’s battery. It then takes less than an hour to charge it back up the next day.

You not so much. The vast majority of Thais live in detached houses.

When you install solar on your home in Thailand you are not required to submit any paperwork unless you want to be part of the Rooftop Solar program, which very few people do as it's not an an attractive scheme. So no record is kept of domestic solar installs, so as I said "5% solar is only commercial" Demand for electricity at night is a fraction of that during the day, that is why night time electricity is half the price of day time use. Battery prices have continued to fall and as the Thai government wants all new cars sold to be electric by the year 2035 most homes will have access to 50kWh+ of battery storage. If consumers could be incentivized to sell some of this stored power back at times of peak demand it would be a win win. You have not mentioned wind power which tends to produce more at night. Thailand has long coast lines and shallow coastal waters

Unlike you I am a member of number of online solar and EV groups in Thailand and demand for both is through the roof. Thailand EV sales in 2023 went up 684% vs 2022, now 12% of total new car sales https://paultan.org/2024/01/09/thailand-ev-sales-in-2023-went-up-684-vs-2022-now-12-of-total-new-car-sales-byd-top-neta-second/ Most of the EVs sold in Thailand now come with V2L, meaning that the owner has access to a massive battery storage. When it comes to solar you ask "you think that average Thai can afford your level of investment." Solar is far cheaper than an EV maybe you didn't know that. You don't need an off-grid system like mine and many Thais are buying them. I have 2 Thai friends in the solar install business and they have never been busier. You claim "renewable is 5%" this is only commercial solar not domestic, which is not recorded. Yes natural gas is currently the main source of power for production of electricity generation but basic economics dictates that solar will grow rapidly in Thailand as it is the cheapest form of energy.

Let's try a simple lesson in Economics: Market price is determined by the intersection of Supply and Demand. You are claiming there isn't sufficient supply of Li If Lithium Supply cannot meet Demand then Price will Rise So what is actually happening to the price of Lithium? So clearly Supply far exceeds Demand.

You obviously don’t know much about solar in Thailand. * There are no high import duties or import bans on PV, inverters and batteries here. Solar components are falling in cost all the time * Installation cost here are laughably cheap * There are no permitting requirements for domestic solar * Thailand is located close to the equator, meaning that solar production is excellent all year round I use my solar system to power a 450m2 house, 2 EVs and an electric motorbike off-grid - I don’t have PEA/MEA My EV has bi-directional charging meaning that I have the equivalent to 6 Tesla PowerWalls of backup power. Future improvements: My solar system makes more power than I can use, but I’m not allowed to feed it back to the grid. In Europe they have dynamic pricing of electricity that reflects the wholesale rate, meaning that sometimes rates go negative and you get paid to charge your EV and at times of peak demand like early evening prices rise and you get paid a substantial amount for feeding power back to the grid.

No links given so we must assume that you just made that up. The physics is very clear. Gasoline is a highly combustable material. If a fuel line comes in contact with something hot (everything in an ICE car’s engine and exhaust system is hot) it can lead to an explosion. Gasoline vapours can fill the car’s cabin and it only takes one spark to create a ball of fire. If you don’t believe me try this at home - pour a gallon of gasoline on a pile of sticks and lean down and light it (plenty videos on youtube) Fires from Li-ion batteries tend to start slow. Most deaths are attributed to EV fires are due to cheap electric bikes and scooters brought into the home causing fires at night. ”Petrol is a dangerous substance; it is a highly flammable liquid and can give off vapour which can easily be set on fire and when not handled safely has the potential to cause a serious fire and/or explosion” https://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum.htm

https://www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires/

The fact that the only way you can comprehend an expat having a Thai friend is if it’s his boyfriend speaks volumes about how you see Thailand. Now it’s my turn to feel sorry for you and your sad expat ghetto life. Certainly nobody will be writing songs about it.

My EV has 580km of range from it's 82.5kWh LFP battery. Since that first week I have never had to pay for any charge. I have an off-grid solar system (no PEA) that powers my house, 2 EVs and an electric motorbike. My EV is a sports car with 3.8 seconds 0-100kph that's what the 3.8s is on the back of the car. A video with my Thai friend in the car

Check out this discussion https://aseannow.com/topic/1308177-rate-charging-suppliers-based-on-ease-of-use