Bandersnatch

Electric or Diesel SUV which one has more Luxury for the money?

It would be helpful to know where you are located, if you are retired and what your monthly milage is. My EV has 580km of range which equivalent to 83km/day range if you charged once a week. My local Robinson here in Surin NE Thailand has 4 chargers and cheap rates at weekends. If I were you I would combine my charging with other activities like meeting friends for coffee. I can add 7km of range per kWh and can charge at 150kW/hour. So I can add 350km of range in 20 minutes.

This statement of yours make makes me question whether you have ever driven an EV. Anyone who had actually driven an EV will know that the slowest AC Wall charger is 7kW. They don't make 3-5kW CCS type 2 wall chargers. That is why there are none listed on PlugShare. Yet you claim that they are the majority of chargers! Lie confirmed Now let's hear more about this Tesla model 3 that you drove in BKK for several years. How much did you pay for it and where did you buy it? Because this is sounding like a lie as well.

Stupid people shouldn’t try anything too complicated like driving an EV or posting in an EV discussion when they have no knowledge or experience of EVs as they just end up humiliating themselves.

I don’t like my EV I love being able to charge it at home for free from excess solar power I love that it comes with over 6 Tesla powerwalls of backup power for my house which means I don’t need PEA anymore I love the instant torque I love the 0-100km/h in 3.8 seconds without spinning my wheels I love that it has perfect 50:50 weight distribution I love that it has an incredible low centre of gravity and goes round corners like it’s on rails I love the drag coefficient of just 0.219 Cd which is better than a Porsche Taycan I love the regenerative breaking and not having to use the brake pedal I love the adaptive suspension I love that the battery pack is a structural component, increasing torsional stiffness and so increasing handling limits I love the Torque vectoring which sends power to which wheel needs it most I love that it only has one gear I love that it has a very long wheel base I love that it is so silent to drive for me and other road users I love that I am not poisoning the pedestrians and motorbike riders around me when I drive or sit at the traffic lights I love that it has a front storage compartment where the engine would be in an ICE car I love being able to switch on the aircon while I’m still in the restaurant I love being able to do “Find My Car” because the car has a 5G chip I love the 8 year warranty for the car and battery I love 8 year completely free servicing and breakdown recovery I love the way it looks

The only thing I can see is that you totally lack all ability to construct an argument. Next time try including some reasons, explanations and evidence. Then you won’t sound like you’re still in kindergarten

In a country where most people drive 2 tonne pickups you are complaining about EVs because they weigh less? That’s why nobody but you is complaining about it 😂

If your daily transport is a ten year old Honda Wave, then you are probably right

They can figure out that someone who never post any evidence to backup their claims is a BS merchant. I am not an EV evangelist. I have said many times that EVs are not for everyone. Someone like yourself who has yet to master the ability to use Google to check their facts before posting, well let’s just say that you would find EV charging apps a bit of a challenge.

Lots of rumors on FB about the CyberTruck. The Tesla Thailand website still has the CT as “Learn” not order

HEVs up PHEVs down BEV UP 🆙 🆙 ⬆️

Why don’t you read the 5,000+ comments in this discussion and you will soon discern a pattern. When the discussion is between EV owners or EV owners and those considering EV ownership, the discussion is civil and friendly. Then when EV Haters arrive with their ignorance and lies the tone changes. Why don’t you stick to your discussions about attractive Ladyboys and leave discussions about EVs in Thailand to those who actually know what they’re talking about.

You seem very keen to call people liars, so you had better make sure that you are never caught in a lie yourself. The majority of chargers on PlugShare Thailand are not 3-5kW, so that makes you a liar. The filter is not giving you accurate information and I have explained the reason for that. Most chargers have a photo and can clearly when it’s a DC charger

You came to this discussion about EVs in Thailand with no direct experience of EVs in Thailand claiming that the booming EV market here was about to collapse. You sir are the Troll here “please desist”

The problem with your argument is that secondhand prices in the UK are compared to "List" prices for new cars when nobody pays the full price. Watch the video below to educate yourself Well glad you finally got around to talking about "EVs in Thailand" the title of this discussion. There is an expectation here that you post evidence to support your claims which you failed to do, so it's my job to call you out on the twaddle you just posted. EV sales in Thailand rose last year by over 700% ICE car sales in Thailand fell by 19% Proving that you are talking utter nonsense

Just done the same filter and found very few chargers in my location. Many missing that I knew were over 100kW. I then looked for all chargers over 50kW and it didn't add any more! I think PlugShare relies on users to upload information. It's like Wikipedia for chargers, so maybe once a charger is added, nobody is checking to see if there in any info missing or inaccurate.

You said you had plans to add solar. I gave you examples of cheap solar equipment You said you had plans to buy an EV. I gave you an example of a cheap EV with V2L You said you were aiming for close to complete self-sufficiency on the farm. I gave you information about how we have achieved it. You complained about the poverty in Cambodia. I gave an example where I had created an educational project that has put fresh veggies in the mouths of poor kids everyday for the past 7 years. I regularly contribute to support the poor folk of our village at our local temple, but none of that has been anywhere near as effective as the project at the school. Instead of complaining about poverty, do something about it.

My Seal AWD Performance displayed 100% range of 580km, but when I switched the range display to dynamic it dropped to 560km “I know how you drive” 😳

Haven’t had your morning coffee? That was a bit harsh. I never made any comment about Cambodia which everyone knows is a far poorer country than Thailand overall. I simply said that there is also poverty in NE Thailand. I live close to the Cambodian boarder and see every day the big American Cars with Cambodian plates. The signs in the private hospital here are in Khmer and Thai as most of the patients are from over the boarder. There are clearly also a lot of wealthy Cambodians who live close enough to do their food shopping in Thailand.

There is plenty of poverty in NE Thailand I installed a solar pond pump for them and explained how it worked. This was about 7 years ago and none of the students had seen solar. Now it’s a common sight.

You don’t need to go for a totally off-grid setup like mine. The inverters in the video are now only ฿17k and PV is only ฿6 per Watt. So a 5kW system is going to cost less than ฿50k plus installation. Here in Thailand you can buy a Neta V with V2L for ฿500k for battery backup for your home solar system. I have several video on my EcoHouseThailand channel about my setup. We are 100% off-grid (no meter) we have rainwater harvesting for household and drinking water. We use solar thermal for hot water and solar well pumps to irrigate our fruit trees and veggies. I was asked by a teacher friend to produce a video on Self Sufficiency that he could use with his students:

Put up evidence to support your claims. “Put up or Shut up” “Look at me how smart I am. I might not know anything about solar and EVs but I don’t need to waste my time doing research, I just make <deleted> up and you plebs believe me”

I designed my home to maximize passive cooling via stack effect ventilation and a fly roof to create a venturi effect by funneling wind across my open third floor. I was hoping that this increase wind speed would make domestic vertical axis wind power more viable. There is a video on my channel testing wind speed for wind power and I really don’t think it’s viable in NE Thailand. EVs with V2L and domestic solar are definitely the most viable option. Here is a video from my series on V2L powering my home. I can power my house all night from my car and use less than 10% of the car’s battery. It then takes less than an hour to charge it back up the next day.

You not so much. The vast majority of Thais live in detached houses.

When you install solar on your home in Thailand you are not required to submit any paperwork unless you want to be part of the Rooftop Solar program, which very few people do as it's not an an attractive scheme. So no record is kept of domestic solar installs, so as I said "5% solar is only commercial" Demand for electricity at night is a fraction of that during the day, that is why night time electricity is half the price of day time use. Battery prices have continued to fall and as the Thai government wants all new cars sold to be electric by the year 2035 most homes will have access to 50kWh+ of battery storage. If consumers could be incentivized to sell some of this stored power back at times of peak demand it would be a win win. You have not mentioned wind power which tends to produce more at night. Thailand has long coast lines and shallow coastal waters