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11 minutes ago, jcmj said:

The other option is going into the attic and having it spray foam sealed. 

I had that carried out by a company in Bangkok that used to advertise in the Bangkok post, cost 13K IIRC. It never solved the problem, the leak continued. 

Right, i'm going to excuse myself from this topic, i've said enough.

Long live the rip off private hospitals.........

41 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

These hospitals rely on the reluctance of people to complain and Thais, as you know, would sooner speak their back behind than face a problem head on as they do not like confrontation.

 

My other half of 26 years plus is a bit more westernized and well traveled and will face them off.

 

Back on track, if she had pointed some things out as ' areas of concern ' I would have listened more, but when she was basically trying to get the hospital bed booked and the CT scan, I found it a turn off.

 

I reported recently on the board I had a colonoscopy at my local government hospital. I am privately insured but with a deductible of 40,000 baht. I really only want health insurance for inpatient and any major issues, Dental, Eyes, OPD, I will pay as I go.

 

They did the entire procedure with overnight private room and including removal of a polyp and biopsy for 10,000 baht. Bangkok hospital was in the range of 40-50K plus extras they charge at every opportunity, but that is all private hospitals..

Your post is so very true in every respect, i too flit from one of my local government hospitals and one of the private hospitals according to my needs. I have to self insure as my pre-existing conditions prevent me from having insurance so i'm conscious when it comes to the treatment/bills i'm going to be presented with.

I imagine because most of the customers that present themselves to private hospitals are probaly carrying insurance and could'nt care a less how much the bill is as they are not paying it tends to fuel the rip off practices. All those that are carrying insurance imo should take more interest in the makeup of their eventual bill and how its arrived at then perhaps their premium increases would not be so upsetting and eye watering.    

I think i should say that after living here for getting on 17 years with my lovely Thai wifey i've learned not to become a regular Thai basher, its not fair on them BUT every now and again an issue arises that i must deliver some bashing cos its bloody well deserved and this is one such issue imo ????

1 minute ago, Scouse123 said:

it's just small in the scale of things but that's what they did to me. She did say I had ' dry eyes ' and she would give me eye drops, she didn't say they would charge 450 baht for drops you can buy outside for 50 baht and yes, pharmacy and cashier adjacent to each other.

IME the doc will not know the cost of any meds he's prescribing but for sure he'll know that they will be charging you a rip off price compared to a local pharmacy, the docs must be receiving some payment from the meds they prescribe imo

Just now, Scouse123 said:

Too late once at the cashier, I was too shy to give them back.

 

Mind you, they weren't shy in charging 450 baht for eye drops!

I was'nt lol

42 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

They same hospital said I had ' dry eyes ' during my eye test and charged 450 for eye drops!

20 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

shouldn't have paid for the eye drops, get elsewhere if necessary 

I've learned from experience that they will prescribe meds without actually telling you that they have and you only find out when you go to the cashiers/hospital pharmacy which is always ime next door to each other and you present the docs you're given and they liase and present you the bill and the meds with instructions of how to take. I now ASK the doc if he's prescribing meds if he does'nt indicate to me when face to face.

Beggars belief but its true !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

19 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

There is an argument for not having those yearly full range of tests, just a way to sell expensive medical procedures. Getting yearly blood test of the usual important indicators only a few hundred baht.

 

As for stones again argument for not operating unless causing a problem.

 

Doctors here at private hospitals are basically sales people

You only have to look at the costs for prescribed meds which they will prescribe in abundance and compare them against the costs from your local pharmacy.

Once i realised their ''game'' i now buy ALL my meds from Siam pharmacy and i inform the docs accordingly and surprise surprise the honest docs agree with me.

16 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

There is an argument for not having those yearly full range of tests, just a way to sell expensive medical procedures. Getting yearly blood test of the usual important indicators only a few hundred baht.

 

As for stones again argument for not operating unless causing a problem.

 

Doctors here at private hospitals are basically sales people

Bingo

5 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

I went for annual check package and chose the executive package at just over 13,000 baht.

 

All went well and results were fine and no major concerns........................ at first.

 

The doctor who does the summary at the end and hands you the printed report said they were unsure and had a slight problem.

 

They were not sure whether or not I had a small gallstone or a tumor. On closer investigation and with me looking at the screen, we pointed out, by the date shown, that what we were looking at was from last years medical report, not this years!.............!!

 

It turned out another nurse had mistakenly removed my whole abdomen check from the list of procedures to be carried out that day and it had not been done at all on this hospital visit

 

By this time, I had dressed and already eaten and drank as they told me everything was done and finished, and so it was impossible that day to then have the abdomen checked.

 

They asked me to return on Tuesday July 25th, at which point I pointed out, it was a 4 hour round trip from our house in Kalasin and I was best pleased and neither did  a  'we apologize ' cut it.

 

After profuse apologies, I must now return on Tuesday to get the whole abdomen checked and find out whether or not this is a gallstone tumor or not. Another 4 hour trip.

 

All my blood tests were either within range or normal except for one slightly ' elevated ' cholesterol level. The accepted range being up to 200 and I was 205. So nothing untoward was flashing up during the blood tests.

 

She stated if further investigation was needed regards gallstone or tumor, then a CT scan would be required and if it was an operation, it would be a two day stay in the hospital. I'll be honest, when she gave me some symptoms I told her I had experienced nothing of what she was talking about and nothing unusual such as bloating that she mentioned.

 

I said it was early days to be saying such things so prematurely without even having the abdomen checked and speaking about a load of options that were not as yet known or on the table.

 

This is not the first time this doctor has quickly tried to recommend procedures and possible operations, she did the same last year and had me fretting over nonsense.

 

Last year she was talking about my carotid arteries and that it was partially blocked by 23% and 30%

 

When I checked in the UK with my ENT nurses they said these arteries were massive and that the doctor was talking nonsense with these levels for a 60 year old man that it was nothing out of the ordinary.

 

My other half was convinced she was just trying to generate revenue for the hospital.

Bingo, i am very distrustful of the private hospital network here in Thailand, we are customers not patients. I will question the docs respectfully on every issue that they recommend treatment for after all said and done TIT where imo ''its all about the money''