Gweiloman

As I thought. I don’t remember you ever mentioning that you actually drive an EV.

I’m about to embark on a 2,100 km journey from Cm to KL (after my other half gets out of the toilet in the next half hour). I’m hoping to be able to stop and charge every 150 km or so, at PEA Volta (I think the PTT reservation system is idiotic). I gather from various research that only supercharging could result in extra degradation of the battery and that slow charging also does a good job of balancing the battery. That’s why I mostly charge at home and only supercharge on long trips, to be on the safe side.

Out of curiosity, what EV do you drive? I currently have the Haval H6 PHEV and when I sell my Mazda 2, I will most probably purchase the BYD Atto3.

Since you mentioned placeholder, his comment was obviously wrong as I’m bias towards EVs, not against. Every one of my posts have been in favour or more and more electrification. with regards to substantiation, this is very much a personal perspective. If I am unable to home charge, I would unlikely be purchasing a full EV as I would find it inconvenient, for me. As to long trips, I did a recent 1,000 km run to Isaan in my PHEV. I posted a report on this trip. I managed it as I had an ICE backup. If it was a full EV, it would have been a lot more challenging. I also posted about a tour guide who has driven over 180,000 km in the past 2 years in his MG ZS EV and stated that it was obviously doable. In any case, I stand by my self-substantiated statement that a full EV is not suitable for those that doesn’t have home charging (a PHEV is a different proposition) and regular long distance travel could be problematic, especially during holiday season. These are my personal experiences and I don’t need 3rd party sources trying to tell me otherwise.

You are obviously not aware that I’m a regular poster on this thread and that I’m pro EV. I recently purchased a Haval H6 PHEV because I needed an SUV that can go regular trips to Malaysia. A full EV would not cut it for those trips. By now everyone on here knows that you own a Porsche and that you’ve purchased multiple EVs for your daughter and yourself (a MG4? If I’m not mistaken). Maybe throttle your arrogance a little.

Yes, full EVs are not currently suitable for those who can’t charge at home or undertake frequent long trips. This has been stated countless times. Try to keep up.

Presumably you bought the vehicle 2nd hand? I suggest you ask the manufacturer for the contact as most manufacturers provide free chargers and installation for new vehicles.

That’s really mean of you. Some of us have no choice but to put in some fuel. I personally had to pump in Thb1,300 worth of fuel in the last 5,000 kms driven. I still have 300 km range available from petrol ????

Complaints about air quality, particularly in CM are starting to appear on that thread. I hope they are doing their part in helping reduce emissions particularly in built up and urban areas by driving EVs/PHEVs.

Definitely not helped by all those diesel fumes bellowing from trucks and pickups. CM should be made a ULEZ lol

Most people I have spoken to believe that it wasn’t Russia that blew up the pipelines simply because it makes no sense whatsoever. If there is any evidence that Russia did it, it would have been released by now. But because whatever evidence has been uncovered most likely points westwards, nothing official has been released. Don’t waste your time trying to convince anyone else here otherwise. You will merely get trolled and reported.

It’s really hard debating the pros and cons of EV’s with someone who either doesn’t own one or has never driven one. EV owners are in the better position as they would have undoubtedly owned an ICE before purchasing an EV. I am super happy with my PHEV. I have zero range anxiety and used less than 1 litre of fuel over the last few hundred kms of driving. When possible, I charge at a free (yes, free, albeit slow at 10 kWh) CS not too far from my house. It takes about 3 hours but I have complete peace and quiet to watch my downloaded Netflix shows. Good excuse to get out of the house which currently has 6 other adults and 4 dogs :). Non EV owners always mention the point about lack of CSs and the time it takes to charge during long journeys. It has been mentioned countless times that long journeys are the exception rather than the rule. However Bjorn does CM - BKK - CM a couple of times a week and doesn’t seem to have any major issues. I also recently met a tour guide who has driven his MG ZS EV 180,000 km in the past 2 years and he just bought a BYD Atto 3. Obviously, EVs work for him even though he probably drives more mileage than anyone on this forum. It is clear to me that far from being morons, EV owners are quite switched on. If I were to sell my Mazda 2, I would be replacing it with a full EV.

I agree. One pedal driving is a game changer. One of the downsides of the Haval (and Ora Cat, and I believe, MG as well) is that cruise control does not regenerate when slowing down. This makes for less efficient driving, particularly in Thailand where we have to vary speeds quite often, unlike in other countries with proper highways and better drivers.

Correction. Selecting one pedal mode does not allow you to select regen strength. This is good in that the one pedal braking will be consistent all the time.

I put it to you that I will probably spend less time at a petrol station than you will, in a typical month. Reason being that I hardly ever need to go to fill up petrol. I’ve done 3,600 kms and filled up once (car came with a full tank from the dealership) for 1,300 baht. Most of my “filling up” will be done in the comfort of my home. I think it’s a good idea for an EV to make some noise at low speeds. I mentioned this in another post that my Haval has a low humming sound at walking speeds.

PEA Volta has quietly and sneakily (just joking) increased their price per kW to 8 baht. I’m gonna boycott them during On Peak hours lol

To quote Billy Joel, “You may be wrong for all I know or you may be right “. In any case, I will continue to enjoy my ride and if my resale value plummets, I’ll just give the car to someone who needs it. I’m sure there will be no shortage of takers.

Seek and ye shall find. This is a common criticism of non EV owners. I think the reason is because they are not consciously looking. I never had interest in NGV and had no idea how many refilling stations there were. But I know look at every PTT station I pass to see if there is an EV Station sign and am amazed at how many NGV signs I see. For the first time in over a decade. I’m actually turning into PT and Bangchak stations that have chargers. Tip for dog owners: they are much more dog convenient as usually lots more greenery and less people. From my recent trip, lack of CS availability was only an issue between Lampang and Phitsanulok (new CSs are popping up in Uttaradit) and between Lom Sak and Khon Kaen (would be nice if they put in a CS in Nam NAO National Park. EV owners might well stop and spend some money at the various outlets there).

You raise some valid points. First off, not everyone buys an EV or PHEV purely on economic reasons alone. I surely didn’t or I would have just bought a mild hybrid. One of the main joys I’m getting from driving my PHEV is the incredible smoothness and silence of the ride. Having driven fossils for over 40 years, I didn’t initially think it was a big deal by in just one month of ownership, I’m a convert. Even if the range of my battery degrades by 30% after 8 years or so, I will still have a better electric range than most other current new PHEVs. Furthermore, I do also believe that a few years down the road, swapping out batteries will be the norm and those newer batteries will be significantly cheaper as well.

I can confirm that the charger will switch off 5 minutes before the hour, having charged at a few PTT EV Stations. This whole booking system is another fine example of that brilliant Thai logic (similar to 90 day reporting). It will be absolute chaos when demand starts to increase and I shudder to think of the EV charging rage that will inevitably occur especially during NY and Songkran. I notice for a few charging stations that 10:00 - 10:55 and 11:00 - 11:55 as well as the early hours of the mornings are usually booked due to off peak rates. Also, I have been facing a lot of problems with the app not charging my card(s) which means a call the call centre as you are not able to charge again with a payment outstanding.

Yes, there’s 3 regen modes, low, standard and strong. Selecting one pedal mode does not grey out these options but I wonder if it has any effect on one pedal braking. I don’t notice any difference.

Thanks. Problem with one pedal mode is that if you take your foot off the pedal completely, the car decelerates gently. I read somewhere that the deceleration is about 10-15% in order for it to be smooth. This would hardly constitute a strong braking force which means the brake lights might never ever come on. I guess the safest thing to do then is to utilise a bit of left foot braking if there’s a car following behind.

When you switch off EV mode, at what speed will the ICE kick in? I have gone as high as 120 kph in hybrid mode without the ICE kicking in. (In EV only mode, the ICE kicks in at 140 kph)

What I find strange is that Chinese made cars are quite popular in Australia and the Uk but seems to be much more unpopular with westerners living in Thailand. Many here won’t touch Chinese made cars with a barge pole but they sell like hotcakes overseas.

The Haval also has a EV only driving mode as well as a hybrid mode. However, I don’t quite understand why. When hybrid mode is selected, the car still drives on EV mode. It’s only when you accelerate hard that the ICE kicks in. On EV driving mode, the car is capable of speeds up to 140 kmh on pure EV. And when the battery is low, the ICE will automatically kick in so I’m puzzled why there are the two modes. I doubt any GWM salesperson can answer that question as it seems like I knew more of the car than they did at the time I picked up the car from the dealership.