Gweiloman

I’ve been driving my Haval for over a year and over 30,000 kms without an owners manual. I guess I have more than 1 brain cell. I merely twist the knob in my console to D to go forward and to R to go backwards. Chinese cars are so damn easy to drive that even Thais can probably manage.

To cut to the chase, your point is that EVs depreciate substantially more than ICEVs, right? So in your mind, ICEVs are a better purchase as they hold their value longer, right? Great, if resale value is an important criteria, then buy an ICEV. I don’t know about other EV purchasers on this forum but resale values mean little to nothing for me. I don’t change cars every 2-3 years. I keep my car until I tire of it or something more attractive comes along. My mindset is that once I purchase something, it has zero resale value. If I sell it and get some money in return, that’s a bonus. I’m more interested in the ownership experience, ie the joy I get from driving and owning the car, including ease of servicing, fuel savings, comfort etc etc. Over the years I would own the car, the pleasure and satisfaction I get would outweigh the “accelerated “ depreciation.

My wife use it to hang the khao neow moo ping

Possible, there’s no accounting for taste. It’s like paying double for a bargirl from Pattaya when you can get a model from Pegasus for half the price.

I think you mean America. Think oilfields of Syria, Iraq.. I think you mean America. Think of the over 60 regime change operations, multiple elections all over the world, countless conflicts and invasions and illegal occupations.

Of course Russia won’t attack the west. All this scaremongering is merely to pump more money into the MIC and to enrich a few even more. The elephant in the room is all these western claims that Ukraine is winning, how 50% of the Russian military has been destroyed, how much more superior western armies and weapons are compared to Russia. If any of the above is true, then surely there is no fear or possibility of a Russian attack on NATO, is there?

Can you please take your discussion about Elon Musk somewhere else?

Meanwhile, on the other side of the world… So while sales of high quality western and Japanese made EVs by Ford, GM, Lucid, Rivian, Toyota, Honda etc are floundering, Chinese made crap is flourishing in a country that is part of AUKUS and the 5-eyes. Who to believe? Who to believe? The EV haters on AN or those who are extremely satisfied with their financially unjustifiable purchase that supports the growing threat of communism and abuse of human rights?

Reading the article, I tend to agree with you. 1) The charging infrastructure in America leaves a lot to be desired 2) The choice of EVs in America leaves a lot to be desired 3) The intellect of some car owners in America leaves a lot to be desired It’s no wonder that EV sales are not doing well. In America.

I’m a qualified accountant and previously worked as a financial director and controller for various multinational corporations. Financially, buying a (new) car does not make good financial sense. Fortunately, not all purchases are made on purely financial grounds. Getting married for example.

The OP has lived here for 4 years but he’s asking for his friend who is planning to retire here soon.

Are you really that uninformed or just trolling?

Good news for those businesses that depend on tourism and for Thais wishing to visit China.

Must be because internal combustion engine vehicles don’t catch fire.

Peace talks that does not include the side that’s winning. I doubt Xi would accept such a ridiculous invitation and rightly so. Also, Xi only meets with real decision makers, not puppets on a string.

Hmmmm… I didn’t realise that Taiwan is America’s neighbouring country and share the same culture and values. Guess I learnt something new today. Thanks.

Excellent post. As an EV owner, I don’t suggest to,everyone that they should get an EV. I merely try to point out the advantages that I personally get, due to my circumstances and lifestyle. Of course I would highly recommend an EV as a second car, assuming you have an ICEV. This way, you have most bases covered. Living in a condo without charging facilities is a challenge for some. Personally for me, it won’t be an issue as I would happily sit in my car for an hour while charging at a public station as I would be watching videos on my car infotainment screen, something which I would be doing at home anyway. Kudos for a balanced and reasonable post from a (currently) non EV owner.

Are you talking UK or Thailand? In either case, you are probably wrong.

I said it before but I’ll say it again. It’s only the anti-EVers who thinks EV owners are virtue signaling. They have really bought into the propaganda. Anyhow, you’re extremely late to the party with your claims and links. Lack of charging stations. Not an issue with most EV owners as charging mostly done at home. Battery lasting only 5-10 years. Where did you get that little nugget from? Not good for the environment. Have you parked your nose next to a diesel pickup recently? If not, I’ll be happy to oblige with my diesel work truck. Software programming issues. I guess you don’t realise that most modern vehicles, EV and ICEV have lots of software so this is a software issue, not EV issue. As for your Sydney fire, you do realise that the battery had been taken out of the car in question and left exposed to the elements? Anything flammable can be a hazard if not properly handled. And finally, your friends’ Toyota EV. The only Toyota EV that I know of is the Bz4x (correct me if I’m wrong). This is the one that was recalled as there was a risk of the wheels falling off. The problem your friend had is not a related EV issue but a poorly designed Toyota issue. No one is telling you to buy an EV. Those of us who own one would probably never buy an ICEV anymore. Just saying.

Not sure if you’re trolling but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. With OYA updates, in some instances, they install automatically without the need for user intervention. I guess this applies for very small, quick updates like recently with my BYD when the voice command for opening the sunshade didn’t work after a regular service. For more major updates however, this has to be initiated by the user as the update plus installation takes about 30 mins. The manufacturer suggests a battery charge of no less than 85% and also Wi-Fi connectivity instead of the mobile SIM card that comes with the car. The infotainment screen displays a notification that an update is available, that can be installed at the owners’ convenience. BEV means a fully electric vehicle. ICEV stands for internal combustion engine vehicle. Hybrids are ICEVs that have a battery (apart from the standard 12 volt battery). There are 2 kinds of hybrids; PHEV (plug in hybrid electric vehicle) or normal HEV (hybrid electric vehicle, sometimes referred to self charging hybrids or mild hybrids). The battery in a HEV is charged by the combustion engine and regenerative braking. You cannot charge it from an electrical output like a wall socket. Battery size is usually 1-2 kWh. PHEVs can also be charged by the same two methods above but can also be charged from an EVSE (electric vehicle supply equipment I think) ie an electrical outlet or a dedicated wall charger. Different charging speeds naturally.

Whatever. As some US politicians famously said, just spending 5% on the military budget has wiped out 50% of Russia’s military. I’m sure they’ll be going in to finish off the job real soon. Yeah, right. This war has backfired on the collective west big time.Som nam na.

How about you show me how Russia is weaker than before the start of the SMO? Less revenue? Contracting economy? Isolated? Economy in tatters? Soldiers fighting with shovels?

Good point. Will the 12 volt lead acid battery be even able to start the car at that temperature?

I’m here in Thailand. I don’t know how much tax revenue is being earned by the Thai government from electricity vs fuel but I would imagine that earnings from electricity is only a fraction of that from fuel. Charging my EV to get a driving range of 400 kms from the grid is less than half of what fuel would cost in a comparable ICEV. From my solar installation, costs even less than that.

https://intellinews.com/russia-overtakes-germany-to-become-fifth-biggest-economy-in-the-world-in-gdp-on-a-ppp-basis-286944/ Note of caution: simple consumers of western MSM and propaganda might find the above article beyond their level of comprehension.