Gweiloman

Talk about being economical with the truth. The emergency alert was to minimise use of electrical appliances due to piss poor planning and foresight. If the relevant authorities would have been smarter, they would have asked EV owners to fully charge up their EVs in advance and then use the V2L feature to power their home appliances.

Taking these approximate figures, 1 litre of diesel generates 2 kWh of electricity, so about 32 baht. That’s 3 times the price as compared to an EV, if charging the EV battery from the grid. If charged from solar… Significant difference in price.

Hard to say. 50 kWh of power can last quite a few days under normal daily usage. In cases of emergencies, it can easily be stretched to over a week. I didn’t realise that ICEVs had a 220V power outlet. None of my previous cars did. Wonder why it was phased out. At a full tank of petrol for your Honda, how many days could the idle, generating electricity?

Which car did you drive that you felt was crap? Because one can’t reasonably pass judgment on something that one hasn’t tried or experienced, right? That would be ignorance and prejudice.

Very true, EVs won’t be operational under certain circumstances. On the other hand, they can come in useful in the event of a power outage so EVs can work when things are not normal…

I’m not a chemist so I wouldn’t know but are there conditions such as extreme cold that could cause the 12 volt lead acid battery to stop working or too weak to produce sufficient charge to crank the engine?

One of the main reasons why Teslas are popular in the west is because the charging rates are lower than other competing charge point operators. Doesn’t seem to be the case here in Thailand. Another thumbs down for Tesla in my book.

You were not clear at all. Are you trying to say that you were driving your Prius on incomplete, possibly unsurfaced roads whilst in the middle of a highway construction project? If so, your fuel consumption is totally meaningless and useless as it does not reflect real world situation. It’s like saying that my manual transmission car gives me very poor mileage as I’m only driving in 1st and 2nd gears and redlining it all the time. I have nothing against your old diesel smoker other than that the smelly and toxic fumes it emits is disgusting and a health hazard to everyone around you. I hope never to be behind you in traffic. You keep going on about environmental issues, mining of materials required for battery production etc etc. Like I said, it’s only anti EVers who seem to think that EV owners purchase EVs for environmental reasons. We buy EVs for its superior comfort, performance and features. As to excessive weight, there are many ICEVs that are much heavier than EVs. The myth about excessive tyre wear has been debunked many times. As for brakes, EVs are much easier on brakes due to regenerative braking. As @Bandersnatch mentioned, modern batteries do not contain cobalt whereas cobalt is used in the production of your petrol/diesel. So in actual fact, you are more complicit in the exploitation of child labour than EV drivers.

Correct. Wind resistance is not linear to speed. Fuel consumption (and the equivalent EV measure) drops off significantly for every kmh above something like 100 kmh.Of course the most economical way is at top gear at the lowest speed for that gear. But even the miser that I am can’t imagine doing a long journey at speeds of less than 80-90 kmh. Your 50 mph translates to 80 kmh. I think part of the confusion and scepticism comes from the difference in US mpg and UK mpg. I think in terms of the latter whereas I believe you were referring to the former, hence mine and a couple of others scepticism.

Yes, I think you are right, my bad. The battery is charged by the petrol engine and regenerative braking just adds back a bit of charge to the battery. I believe however (I could be wrong) that once the battery is fully charged, it will only be recharged by regenerative braking until it reaches a specific low level of charge and that’s when the petrol engine recharges the battery again. All of these works seamlessly in the background without user intervention other than driving style.

Ok, my apologies. And no, the regenerative energy going into the battery does not come from petrol. It comes from recapturing the energy otherwise lost in a normal ICE from slowing down or braking. Think of an EV. There is no petrol to recharge the battery after all. The latest Nissan technology, e-power or something like that actually burns petrol to generate electricity to charge a traction battery to power an electric motor. If that sounds ridiculous to you, you are right. Even the well known anti EVer from AutoExpert ridicules this latest Nissan tech. For normal PHEVs, you would normally plug it in to charge up the battery. Whilst driving, regenerative braking will charge the battery a little bit. There is also the option to charge the battery from the combustion engine but this is highly inefficient and I see no reason for wanting to do this way in Thailand.

I too had a Prius over 10 years ago. I was regularly able to get over 70 mpg on my highway runs by driving the car the way you are meant to drive a Hybrid if you want to benefit from the lower consumption. As it was a company car, you obviously did not bother saving petrol for the company or you were a rather incompetent hybrid driver or you are just plain spouting non sense. You also said “allegedly” recharging the battery. That shows your complete ignorance of how the technology works. I find it strange that it’s only non EV fans and EV haters who thinks that EV owners are greenies, are trying to save the planet blah blah blah. I don’t recall one EV owner on this forum who bought an EV for the above reasons. Instead we buy EVs because we believe them to be superior motor vehicles, especially as our lifestyles and circumstances allow us to take full advantage of the benefits an EV provides. I won’t bother to tell you to take your blinkers off as I know you’re not neutral in this respect.

I was going to try and explain in more laymen and practical terms as to the difference between these two technologies… But I see that you are merely trolling. Please correct me if I’m wrong. The poster you were responding to claimed only 35 mpg for the Prius. He’s obviously extremely economical with the facts or just an incompetent driver.

You can of course choose not to drive an EV, that’s totally your prerogative. But posting the picture that you did implies that battery production is inhumane, exploits children etc which is total nonsense. Simple fact of the matter is that less or zero emissions in cities and urban areas are better for society as a whole. That doesn’t mean you should stop driving your ICEV but don’t criticise those who prefer to drive an EV.

Naturally. In my case, I have a PHEV (34 kWh battery) and an EV (60 kWh battery). I charge whichever car needs it and drive the other for that day. Quite fun actually lol.

I agreed with you that it makes little sense to purchase an EV solely for the fuel savings but as @sirineousaid, it is definitely a consideration when planning to purchase a new car. Fuel saving is only one of many advantages. Savings on maintenance (engine oil etc) is another. What is overlooked sometimes is that an EV only needs to be “serviced” (checked) once a year as compared to 6 months for many petrol cars. Furthermore, it takes only an hour or so for this checking so you can easily kill this time in the dealer’s lounge rather than leaving your car there for a few hours as was the case with my previous ICEVs. An EV is not for everyone as stated many times before but if your profile and circumstances allow it, it should definitely be a consideration. The ride comfort, convenient features and convenience of charging does really add to your quality of life. I sat in a friend’s 6 month of Toyota Yaris last night and I was genuinely shocked at the whole ride experience, from the cranking of the engine to the initial takeoff. Like I mentioned in another thread, it costs nothing to go for a test drive and you might be pleasantly surprised and understand a bit better why EV owners are generally pleased with their purchase.

Excellent. I’m still a little confused how t get Autocharge setu and started. Do I need to do anything on my app? One matter of concern though. Someone could “borrow” your car and charge it automatically until and unless you turn off autocharge on your phone. Would be a bummer if your phone happened to be in the car as well lol.

My calculator tells me that 20km/l is equivalent to 47 mi/gal (US) and 56.5 mi/gal (UK). To get 70 mpg, one has to be practically hypermiling behind trucks and so on. I tried this with my Prius and was able to get in excess of 70 mpg but if cruising on the motorway at 80 kph, I’m a bit sceptical. Not calling out @Robert Paulson but if you would recheck your figures and reconfirm, that is amazing fuel consumption figures.

What you’ve done is completely over my head lol. I don’t know how a solar diverter would work but I imagine that it varies the current on the fly, depending on excess solar power generated. This would not be unlike charging at a DC fast charger which reduces the current as the battery starts filling up. In the case of the latter, I imagine the car is controlling how much power it can accept. In the former (solar diverter), I would imagine the charger controls the current being outputted. You raise a good point about some vehicles not being able to stop and start charging without the charger being disconnected.

Most people don’t actually realise how much they are paying for fuel until they actually sit down and work it out. As there is no choice of whether to fuel or not, it’s just a matter of fill and go and not thinking about it. It’s apparent that the fuel savings can mount up significantly as mentioned several times by @KhunLA. Doubly so if having solar. Does anyone know if there are smart chargers with solar divert for sale in Thailand?

That’s amazing. Which Honda model is that? I don’t think even my 150 cc Honda PCX scooter can even give me that sort of figure.

Very nice. Honda makes good reliable cars, if a bit obsolete in terms of technology and features. I’ve owned 3 Hondas previously, starting with a Prelude (sexy looking car for its time, back in the early 80’s), changed that to a CRX and when I had more money, an Accord. Out of curiosity, why don’t you have an interest in an EV? And is your wife racist? The latter would be funny, considering she’s a Thai when most of the western world sadly, hold Thai women in,low esteem (assuming most of them are bar girls, massage girls etc. You know what I mean).

No one, especially on this forum knows if EVs are the future. Only one poster tries to give reasons why he doesn’t think so. The rest just don’t like EVs and based on that, they believe EVs aren’t the future. What I do know is that many countries, large corporations, big investment banks and very wealthy individuals are investing billions into EVs and the supporting infrastructure. I think they are in a better situation than retirees here in Thailand to gauge demand levels for EVs in the future. Will EVs replace ICEVs completely? Probably not but I will not be surprised if EV sales overtake ICEV sales in the very near future.

This just goes to show how inept immigration officials are in Thailand. Regulations are that you have to keep a certain minimum amount of readily accessible funds in a Thai banking institution for a certain period. Why should it matter whether the account has a passbook or whether it’s an online account with electronic monthly statements? Most countries I’ve lived in dispensed with physical passbooks decades ago. But this is Thailand, we just have to accept the good with the bad. We continue to stay here as long as the former outweighs the latter.

With WhatsApp, you can have your one account on multiple devices. For LINE, I created a new account via the carlink kit and a new SIM card. In this respect, WhatsApp is better than LINE.