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8 hours ago, khunPer said:

Earlier it has been said in the news, taht they are planning to use leased ATR-42 aircraft. Fully loaded that require 1,090 meters runway and up to 1,205 meter at sea-level, depending of version, i.e. ATR42-300 to ATR42-600. With max. pax (48 passengers) an ATR42-600 requires 1,025 meter at 300 knot take-off speed; range enough for Bangkok including reserves.

 

ATR-72 with max. pax (68 passengers) will require about 1,200 meter take-off run, depending of fuel load.

 

Up to 1,000 passengers a day (i.e. 500 arriving, and 500 departing) is not unrealistic; however it will require some 10 ATR-42 operations a day. Koh Samui Airport has more than 4,000 passengers a day in average. With the number of rooms available a Koh Phangan – and there do come other visitors, than for Full Moon Parties – that estimated figure seem fair enough. Looking at party-youngsters, the air-alternative may be depending of price, compared to bus/train and ferry, although quite some today arrives by air and commute from Koh Samui or mainland.

 

But you're right about the economy; 2 billion bath over 10-years with 10 operations a day, mean some 50,000 bath investment costs only per operation – interest and running costs, etc. not included; just a quick head-calculation.

Holla, with 300 knots “take-off speed” …all you flaps would fly away and your tires would start burning.
Max tire speed is 165 knots. 300 knots is the Max Cruise speed.
Anyway.

“With max. pax (48 passengers) an ATR42-600 requires 1,025 meter”

It can be more:
Take-off Distance ATR42-500

• Basic (SL, ISA+15°, MTOW)  = 1,165 m
• At TOW for 300 Nm - Max pax - SL – ISA = 1,025 m

These values are tested under known standard conditions.
Temperature = 15 °C /  Normal pressure = 101325 Pa  = Air Density  1,225 kg/m3

But in Thailand, temperatures between 30°C -  40°C are common.
Temperature = 35 °C / Normal pressure = 101325 Pa  = Air Density  1,145 kg/m3

The carrying capacity of the air is then significantly lower.
On the 1025 meters take-off, I would not bet.

http://www.atraircraft.com/products_app/media/pdf/FAMILY_septembre2014.pdf

For 61 ecstasy pills sentenced to two life terms in jail.
That's far over the top.
Wonder whether all comparable drug traffickers, whether be thai or foreigners, who got such harsh sentences in the past?
 

On down, thousands more to go after.

Beside that many from the islanders do not want an airport, this chimera will never be profitable with a 1100 meter runway. The Cessna Grand Caravan with 12 Seats could land/start, but with their ATR72-500 is already critical, without safety margins.
For comparison: Koh Samui runway is 2,060 meters.

They plan with 1000 passengers per day. Where are the passengers come from?
Price aggressive competition there is in Surat Thani and in Nakhon Si Thammarat enough with Thai, Nok, Smile, Air Asia, Lion Air. Even Bangkok Airways on Koh Samui had to slash the number of its flights.
 

The land bought for 500 million baht from a mini airline with 3 small aircrafts?
Where does the money come from?
 

Many Arab women are very beautiful. Long legs, long black hair, pretty faces, tall with very feminine curves.
Too bad that many are forced to hide their faces and bodys.
I think the burqa is crap.

7 hours ago, manfredtillmann said:

because they probably can't. the reason why the far right exists is because it caters for the uneducated and unintelligent who think that you can solve all the worlds problems by building walls.

Ideological crap.

Germany IW study (30.04.2016) : The AFD is a party of high earners and educated.
The Alternative for Germany (AfD) is a party of the better-off. 33.9 percent of all AFD sympathizers belonging to the richest fifth of the population, less than ten percent of the AFD-Followers are very worried about their personal economic situation. This emerges from a study by the Institute of German Economy in Cologne (IW Köln).

Educate yourself first!

Migration is considered by many German citizens as the main problem of the EU.
According to an EU study, 61 percent are against the immigration from outside the EU .

The question "Should be taken in your opinion, additional measures to combat illegal immigration of people from outside the EU?" endorsed a total of 81 percent of respondents from Germany.

This is apparent from the national evaluation of the recent Euro barometer on behalf of the EU Commission.
Evaluation is from February 2015.

Merkel stands with her stupidity, against the will of the majority of German people.
Her ignorance and narrow-minded bigotry can many people no longer endure.
Merkel has to go, as soon as possible!


 

You can rent a basic house on Koh Phangan for a month, with wifi, fridge, TV, kitchen, hot shower, fan for 6000- 9000 Baht.
So accommodation is 200-300 for a day. If you can drive, you rent a motorbike for 3000 Baht per month and can drive to all beaches.
From your daily 1000 baht budget, then still remain 600 Baht for food and fun per day.
 

If you look at the flags in the background, it's official.
Merkel as a Turkish province politician.

37 minutes ago, whaleboneman said:

This is the first time I've seen someone questioning personal savings when income is so low. Too bad it's just an assistant they're wondering about.

A plausibility test between income and wealth of senior officials in Provincial Land Offices would definitely bring interesting results.
Since there are certainly some, who have private unusually a large number of land parcels, money in their bank accounts , the newest luxury cars,  the biggest fat gold rings on their fingers and top brand gold watches  on their wrists.

According to a report on illegal land deeds registration in Phuket by the Royal Thai Police's Crime Suppression Division, issued in 2004, the division found a crime network of local politicians, businessmen and land officials worked together as two teams.

That was 12 years ago.
Are some culprits accused, arrests carried out, court processes held or prison sentences imposed?
The non-functioning state in the grip of corruption.
Corrupt to the core.

 

Everyone for themselves.
If you are alone and must drive a lot, which that super gasoline prices, brillant.
If you feed a large famliy then it is more expensive than 0 -1% inflation.

Since there are so many beautiful women here from Afghanistan, Iran or wherever.
Please come with bikini dress to the beach.
Kisses naa.

It is my business.
If any guests spoil the mood, I close them out.
Whether these are any drunk, or want to repurpose my place of joy to a political event.
It's my house and I determine who enters through my door will be granted.

The situation is quite simple.
Mankind multiplies continue.
The capacity problem on earth is continued.
Many plant and animal species become extinct, oceans are being plundered, forests are cut, drink water is running out, etc.
There are simply too many people on this planet that destroy ecosystems and equilibria.

Many industrialized countries have declining birth rates.

Other countries, many at the equator have very high birth rates.
Unfortunately, not enough food is growing there and water is scarce, many starve.
It is this pressure, due idiotic proliferation, now comes to Europe.

Many countries with low birth rates have fairly stable systems.
Each country should seek a stability for themselves first.
For example, Germany does not need mass immigration.
With technology and engineering, many developed countries can solve this problem.
There are very interesting Harvard studies about this subject .
https://www.google.co.th/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiHnIicmvHOAhUEpY8KHZOnBgUQFggfMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hsph.harvard.edu%2Fprogram-on-the-global-demography-of-aging%2FWorkingPapers%2F2011%2FPGDA_WP_64.pdf&usg=AFQjCNGGOVDl8Rq2J68PirZbipP3TDSj9g&bvm=bv.131783435,d.c2I

https://www.google.co.th/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiHnIicmvHOAhUEpY8KHZOnBgUQFggpMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hsph.harvard.edu%2Fprogram-on-the-global-demography-of-aging%2FWorkingPapers%2F2013%2FPGDA_WP_98.pdf&usg=AFQjCNH_msbOhJXd18goEXY32LPEYOhY7w&bvm=bv.131783435,d.c2I

Germany could also invite 200,000 nurses from the catholic Philippines or from buddhist Thailand, with good pay, to solve the future nursing problem.

And I am absolutely against about this kind of uncontrolled mass immigration, what happens now.
These are not war refugees, these are economic refugees from embryonated areas.

Is my statement too much Nazi?
 

That's nonsense.
The designer can work from home in Europe and create the plans.
The investor buys then only the blueprints.
With that logic, should, for example, not a single computer program run here.
All are designed by foreigners and are used in Thailand.
 

$34 million per aircraft is very cheap.
Comparable aircraft for 100 passengers cost much more.
A318 around $75 Million or 737-700 around $80 Million.
I am wondering if this is the final price or other transactions are counted against it.
 

6 hours ago, micmichd said:

Don't worry, dying Germany already has her Nazis and their political branch for White Trash, the AfD. 

 

Absolutely stupid statment. Not even the left-wing German press would called the AFD as Nazis. Many AFD members are ordinary working citizens who simply have the snout full of islamization. Accordingly to your restricted thinking, all residents from Angola must be Nazis then. Dumber can't get.

This "teacher" needs a hard fist in his face.
Beats children bloody, what a pervert.

The core problem is the lack of proper garbage cans in Thailand.
The residents predominantly lay their garbage in plastic bags on the roadside.
The stray dogs tear the bags then, and live off the remains.
Whole cities characterized littered, and the street dogs breed like flies, because of the oversupply of food out of the garbage.

In our village, the mayor ordered that all trash cans are to be deposited on 1 meter high metal or wood racks. Result: No more stray dogs in our neighborhood.

If Thailand solve its garbage problem correctly, then the many stray dogs will disappear.
It is the responsibility of the authorities.

A truly heartbreaking love story, as they are so many in Thailand.
Actually there are just a couple more zeros on Nong Nats bills.

A general enforced speed limit of 50 km / h would also help.
It is mostly the local drivers, especially taxi and minivans which often speeding, overtake other vehicles at blind spots and relegate  motorcyclists to the sandy side stripes.  Unfortunately, many locals celebrate a people disparaging driving style.

With such news it is for the TAT difficult to promote Pattaya as a family destination.
It is more of a horror show.
A properly executed housekeeping looks different.
 

If local Thais murder or kill a foreigner is allowed.
No penalty or charge here for the perpetrators.
Even they have indeed confessed to the crime.

Unfortunately, the investigating island officers are often friends or classmates of the families of the perpetrators.
The mockery and distortion of the law in its purest form.
Justitia on puke .

 

Even the IS confirmed that they will send more terrorists into Europe.
There are many sources about their strategy.
http://news.sky.com/story/islamic-state-sending-more-fighters-to-europe-10249434
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-floods-more-fighters-europe-7788875

The unregulated chaos with that many, economy and war refugees coming to Europe, making it for the Islamic terrorists easy to nestle in europe permanent.
They will disguise themselves first with a normal life.
Later as determined more terrorist attacks will follow in the near future.

Merkel is apparently unable to recognize her own mistakes and the reality.
She has causing great harm to Germany and Europe.
I hope she is gone soon.