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In 2008, Yaowapa's husband Somchai Wongsawat took the job of prime minister briefly before being unseated by a court ruling which found his party guilty of electoral fraud, requiring him to serve a five-year political ban.For the Feb 2 election, he is contesting as the No. 2 candidate in the Puea Thai's party list.
He was relegated from parliament already (guilty of electoral fraud).Why they let this people run again in elections?
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Elected?The only elections in which criminals should attend, are the elections in jail for an imprisonment speaker.Please stop ignoring that many, many of these politicians (from all camps)are corrupt and/or convicted and/or condemned and/or banished and/or free on bail, and/or listed in one or more of the 25000 pending corruption cases.
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Before we vote, please can we change the rules?
Like next election without the criminals.
Especially those who were convicted by crimes or corruption,and all this guys running around on bail (some since 12 years or more),and all condemned as corruptand all they were baned from parliament already. The barrier of five years ban is "shit".Start with new honest people aka representatives of the people!Please."Start with new honest people aka representatives of the people"
If you are going to get honest people to enter Thai politics, you have to pick them very young!!
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Do not be so pessimistic.
the old dinosaurs need to get out, and just let more the 40 years old family men/women (women/men) rule.
The aging is also visible in Thailand.
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What would be nice is to have the PT form a large coalition with as many small parties as possible.
This would represent the largest portion of the (reasonable) population, and send the Dems and their extremist yellow thugs back to the dark ages.
The strategy of PT is to speak with everyone, except Suthep and the Dems. They probably convinced everyone that the best way to fight Suthep is to participate in the democratic elections that he wants so much to avoid.
With more parties registering compared to the last elections, it can be seen as a good sign.
All these parties showed that they refuse to bow to Suthep’s dictatorship. Very good !!!
But of course, Suthep and the Dems will continue their destructive and criminal battle against democracy, so we cannot be sure of anything... But if most people show support for the elections there is still hope...
5555 you have no idea. Thai people love titles, games, campaign slogans, promotion jingles
The only parties that count are the Democrats and Pheua Thaksin.
"What would be nice is to have the PT form a large coalition with as many small parties as possible."
"The strategy of PT is to speak with everyone, except Suthep and the Dems."
Wrong, they no speak, they buy them.
Better: First all criminals out before election!
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Before we vote, please can we change the rules?
Like next election without the criminals.Especially those who were convicted by crimes or corruption,and all this guys running around on bail (some since 12 years or more),and all condemned as corruptand all they were baned from parliament already. The barrier of five years ban is "shit".Start with new honest people aka representatives of the people!Please.-
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Looks like if the army are not willing to step in, the constitutional court will instead.
This would be a better outcome, especially if they ban all the politicians and senators with this huge and lets face it schoolboy error of trying to scam their way through parliament on several occasions in a small amount of time in the most unconstitutional way possible. Then threaten to have the members of the constitutional court indicted just because someone had the balls to stand up to them.
I can see mass political bannings coming, and I can see the election consisting of just a few minnows for the people to choose from and that means Thaksin is going to need to dig deep into his pockets to buy out a new set of politicians.
I hope so.
It could yet be banned all parliamentarians of the last 2 years.
That would be fair. For all.
Especially those who were convicted by crimes or corruption,and all this guys running around on bail (some since 12 years or more),
and all condemned as corruptand all they were baned from parliament already. The barrier of five years ban is "shit".
Start with new honest people aka representatives of the people!
Please.
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Ludicrously”The country earned some Bt4.2 billion”That is wrong!!!!The country has LOST in two years:795.981.160.000 Baht!686.000.000.000 Starting this §$% Rice Scheme Scam+ 180.000.000.000 Returning money from rice sales+ 60.000.000.000 New planed bond injection= 926.000.000.000 disbursed- 130.000.000.000 Stockpile value at best (Assumption of 25% are rotten)- 14.745.000 Bank fees BAAC 2012- 4.095.000 Bank fees BAAC 2013= 795.981.160.000 Money lost in greedy stupidityThe country needs investments in education (modernization of all public schools), health (modernization of state hospitals),
drinking water supply, road safety and natural ressources conservation.I wish the head of the state would lock all these selfish, greedy, dishonest, corrupt people in the prison. -
"Thaksin, who is now in self-exile" AKA on the run.
If Thaksin is so guilty, how come no country will extradite him? He's freely travelling to countries like U.S and Singapore without being arrested.
It's funny how you people keep re-iterating how corrupt Thailand is. But you only apply that corruption where it suits you.
There is no extradition agreement between Dubai and Thailand.
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I do not like this.
Hope the taxi driver is still well.
Why the people go so crazy?
Wake up thailand.
The King called for peace and unity.
Some stupid people can not understand this massage.
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Dear Yingluck you are ok with this 3 measures?1. Normalized budget distribution- The state budget ( or clearly defined parts) must be divided by provinces, taking into account how many people living in each tschang wat. So the minority do not go out empty-handed.It can not be that 51% get all and 49% get nothing.The implementation would be relatively easy. So all members of parliament could contribute/plan to a common budget. This plan would then be published in detail so that everyone can see across the country where the funds are going and who state money is used.Transparency down to every tschang wat, village and mu ban.Must be good in every village, that everyone knows or can read about, how much money the pu jai gets in hand each year. Thus, each voter would have the ability to take a control function.2. Transparency + public budget controlLike for all future budgeting processes they make it compulsory for all future governments, that- the use of money for project proposals are accurately represented in detail and coherent on the last baht.- the use of money for project proposals is described in detail for all people publicly documented and visible- Public monthly or quarterly reports on Finance and project progresses.- Public invitation for project proposals and at least three competitive compare offers.- Project completion reports including all expenses with receipts.- a strong supervisory committee composed of members is formed by all parties,to control the entire investment process without disabilities and time delay restrictions.The results of the process and progress checks are presented to the parliament.The members of the supervisory body should rotate so that corruption is impossible or more difficult.3. Law- abolition of any immunity- lifetime banishment of condemning politicians and civil servants- change of the bail system, that is, if in the first instance convicted goes to appeal, he must resign from all his offices for this time.- Faster Judicial clarification, that is, Court date with judgment within 60 daysThese changes are then from a reference date for all.The remaining 25,000 cases of corruption are processed in parallel.If convicted, then he / she is out (suspended or life ban).
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This is a good article and describes well why not many reforms have been implemented in the past. In summary, we have the situation that corrupt politicians do not want reforms against corruption, because then would be many many out of game.The whole country is riddled with corruption for decades. The political and administrative system has many loopholes, police, laws and courts are unfair, bad people, etc.The belief that you can solve all these problems with a one-time reform is naive.Reforms, change, and improvements must be an ongoing process. That is to learn from mistakes and then turn off this. But that's not thai mentality, to lead a critical discussion of their own mistakes and to speak openly about. Also the hierarchical thinking blocked constructive solutions. A teacher can write on the board 2 +2 = 5 and there will be no objection in class. Loss of face; impossible.Since they can not solve all problems at once, they should first carry out only 3 measures, implement and rigorously apply:It does not matter who wins the election or who has the majority.1. Normalized budget distribution- The state budget ( or clearly defined parts) must be divided by provinces, taking into account how many people living in each tschang wat.
So the minority do not go out empty-handed.It can not be that 51% get all and 49% get nothing.The implementation would be relatively easy. So all members of parliament could contribute/plan to a common budget. This plan would then be published in detail so that everyone can see across the country where the funds are going and how state money is used.Transparency down to every tschang wat, village and mu ban.Must be good in every village, that everyone knows or can read about, how much money the pu jai gets in hand each year. Thus, each voter would have the ability to take a control function.2. Transparency + public budget controlLike for all future budgeting processes they make it compulsory for all future governments, that- the use of money for project proposals are accurately represented in detail and coherent on the last baht.- the use of money for project proposals is described in detail for all people publicly documented and visible- Public monthly or quarterly reports on Finance and project progresses.- Public invitation for project proposals and at least three competitive compare offers.- Project completion reports including all expenses with receipts.- a strong supervisory committee composed of members is formed by all parties,to control the entire investment process without disabilities and time delay restrictions.The results of the process and progress checks are presented to the parliament.The members of the supervisory body should rotate so that corruption is impossible or more difficult.3. Law- abolition of any immunity- lifetime banishment of condemning politicians and civil servants- change of the bail system, that is, if in the first instance convicted goes to appeal, he must resign from all his offices for this time.- Faster Judicial clarification, that is, Court date with judgment within 60 daysThese changes are then from a reference date for all.The remaining 25,000 cases of corruption are processed in parallel.If convicted, then he / she is out (suspended or life ban).When public funds are used, then the public has the right to see what the representatives of the people plan to do with the money and how it was used.It must be prevented that a country can be completely plundered by a few unethical people just because they are currently in power.-
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No one knows how long this power struggle is still going on.Would that then mean in inverse conclusion,
that the EC will in the future all the money burning schemes approve, receives state loans and funds release?Who controls it? Who signs against?“Hey we need 38 billion Baht (38.000.000.000) quick quick, please sign here and here, thanks.”Today is Christmas, isn´t? -
Interesting approach.Corrupt politicians make reforms against corruption.Having the professionals on board is not bad, because they know how it goes.But50 years ago, a Safe construction company made it also like that.The best safe crackers worked together with the safe construction designers to ensure a safe as possible to build.Well then these safes were serially broken.Guess who that was?Since 50 years, this company no longer practice this system.Since then are only system designers allowed, who have a clear honest reputation and a non-criminal history.
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Now the Election Commission takes over the Treasury?
Is the EC for that qualified?
Something I've never heard of, that a Election Commission can release State loans or Investment budgets.
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This is a good demonstration of how the Thaksin regime works, they keep changing the rules to suit themselves. They say things can't be done when really they can, or that they can when really they can't. Just the kind of people they are....An administration composed almost entirely of convicted criminals and fraudsters - FACT !
Yes, the new (old) PT party administration composed almost entirely of convicted criminals and fraudsters - FACT !
Suthep has the same vita, he has dirty hands to!
All are corrupt and greedy.
People do no longer want these unethic, immoral people as their leaders.
How many politicians bluster from here their idiotic power struggle?
500? or 1000?
An entire country taken hostage from 500-1000 corrupt people!
It is obvious that both camps also not shy, from a division of the country or ignite a bloody civil war!
The PT politicians on the election list 1-12 have no interest in reforms, they want only to get there hands again on the statemoney.
Suthep way to establish an unelected parallel government also does not work.
Best the head of the state lock all this corrupt people away in prison.
What are these representatives?
Selfish egoists destroy this beautiful country
Shame on you.
Don't worry- in a few days the Messiah will come and draw out the promised land that you seem to seek.
The archnoble Suthep will lead the march on the popular will and order become the norm.
You will get your reforms!!!--- though they may not be the reforms you wanted.
some fools have to learn the HARD WAY.
You love the cleansing iron heel- till it lands on your face.
Can not see any reference to your quote.
You are drunken?
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Idea is good in theory, but should exclude all convicted criminals and people with pending corruption cases.
Hopefully they then still get enough clean people together.-
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If only the army stop backing this guy, then he will get as deserved. It will happen.
Not only one, all of this bad corrupt people please!
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This is a good demonstration of how the Thaksin regime works, they keep changing the rules to suit themselves. They say things can't be done when really they can, or that they can when really they can't. Just the kind of people they are....An administration composed almost entirely of convicted criminals and fraudsters - FACT !
Yes, the new (old) PT party administration composed almost entirely of convicted criminals and fraudsters - FACT !
Suthep has the same vita, he has dirty hands to!
All are corrupt and greedy.
People do no longer want these unethic, immoral people as their leaders.
How many politicians bluster from here their idiotic power struggle?
500? or 1000?
An entire country taken hostage from 500-1000 corrupt people!
It is obvious that both camps also not shy, from a division of the country or ignite a bloody civil war!
The PT politicians on the election list 1-12 have no interest in reforms, they want only to get there hands again on the statemoney.
Suthep way to establish an unelected parallel government also does not work.
Best the head of the state lock all this corrupt people away in prison.
What are these representatives?
Selfish egoists destroy this beautiful country
Shame on you.
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5. Mr. Chaikasem NitisiriIs this the same person who handled Taksins Case:The state against Taksin?The Attorney General is selectedby an independent panel and confirmed by the legislature; heis not accountable to the Justice Minister. Current AttorneyGeneral Chaikasem Nitisiri began his term on October 1, 2007;he is due to retire in September, when he hits the officialretirement age of 60. (Comment: PPP's strong plurality inthe legislature may imperil the candidacy of any futurenominee for Attorney General who is known to be hostile toThaksin's interests. End Comment.)
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12. Mr. Sompong AmornvivatMeanwhile, former Deputy Prime Minister and close Thaksinally Sompong Amornvivat told us that while Thaksin continuedto profess optimism about an \”imminent return,\” Sompongpersonally did not see any viable channels through which this might occur.former Deputy Prime Minister Sompong Amornvivat told us thatThaksin continued to express optimism about his prospects foran imminent return to Thailand. Sompong reported that hemeets with Thaksin frequently in Dubai — and will do soagain in a few weeks — and that Thaksin often ends theirencounters by stating confidently: \”I will see you in Bangkok soon.\
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8. Mr. Pracha PromnokPreviously, I have written to inquire the Minister of Justice, Pol Gen Pracha Promnok regarding progress in the investigation of Mr. Somchai's case. Then, he gave me a one pager summary prepared by DSI indicating that there has been no progress as to the investigation in order to bring the perpetrators to justice. This happens so despite that the case has been handled by DSI for eight years.
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11. Phokin Phalakul25 July 2011The National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) has filed a lawsuit against those being indicted former Interior Minister Pokin Palakul, are former Bangkok Governor Apirak Kosayodhin, former Deputy Interior Minister Pracha Maleenont, former Deputy Commerce Minister Wattana Muangsuk, former Director of the Bangkok Fire and Rescue Department Police Major General Atilak Tanchukiat and Austrian firm Steyr-Daimler-Puch.The defendants are alleged of malfeasance and corruption as well as signing false documents in their acquirement of fire trucks and boats from the Austrian company while they were in office in 2004.
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10. Mr. Plodprasop Suraswadiin 2005 Plodrasop was accused by the National Counter Corruption Committee and later found guilty and fired from his last bureaucrat post in 2007 because of his illegal permission to allow a trade export of one hundred Bengal Tigers to China by a private company.
Is this true?
That is why he needs immunity.
It was much worse than that. Google this part of your sentence. "Plodrasop was accused by the National Counter Corruption Committee"
Found this in Thaipress
NCCC. Opening paneled cabinet Crab 2 after a 1-year experience of 18 patients each with assets up to 963 million baht.
On 23 December has published a list of assets and liabilities and documentation of policy positions in government , the Office of the National Anti- Corruption Commission (VGR ) . Yingluck Shinawatra Prime Minister at retirement by one year to 26 October 2556 , including 18 children.Deputy Prime Minister General Yuthasak phumwng . And Empress Oraphan phumwng spouse assets over liabilities of THB 311,993,393 compared to the 27 Oktober 2555th Gene Yuthasak retirement case . And with spouse assets over liabilities of Baht 310,485,401 .Mr. Ed Mr. Suwat conducive Meta . Office of the Prime Minister with assets over liabilities of 17,750,995 THB compared to the case retired on 27 October 2555 Mr. Suwat with assets over liabilities of Baht 21,943,988 .Mrs Nalinee Thavisin Prime Minister. Go with assets over liabilities of THB 16,012,749 compared to 101,939 THB and liabilities in retirement, on 27 October 2555 with assets over liabilities 16,077,125 Baht 89,519 Baht in debt.Mr. Viroon Techapaiboon Deputy Finance Minister and his wife Mrs. Kanya Techapaiboon spouse go assets over liabilities of THB 183,956,841 compared to 3,817,968 THB and liabilities in retirement, on 27 October 2555 with assets over . Liabilities 181 622 411 baht but noMr. Saikuar deputy agriculture. And woman carrying currency in favor of transparency and children immature assets and liabilities 6,733,936 THB 25,001,360 THB 18,267,424 THB , so has assets over liabilities in comparison to 27 October 2555 on the retirement case and has assets of 24,558,105 Baht. Liabilities assets over liabilities 6,679,319 17,878,786 THB THB way.Mr. Charupong Ruangsuwan Minister of Transport and Mrs. Supatra Ruangsuwan spouse assets and liabilities 3,920,072 THB 21,557,372 THB 17,637,299 THB , so has assets over liabilities in comparison to the 27 to October 2555 retired case . 21,236,615 baht assets and liabilities of Charupong . Of banks and other financial institutions with assets over liabilities 3.425 million THB 17,866,358 THB way.Deputy Transport Insurance Bureau Dilok Mr. and Mrs. Alta flawless Dechapiratkul Dilok spouse assets 662 829 201 Total liabilities of THB 22,686,021 THB , so that the spouse of assets over liabilities of THB 640,143,180 , compared with the case from the position . 27 October 2555 with the assets , liabilities 1,157,297,075 Baht 16,354,300 Baht Therefore spouse assets over liabilities . Baht 1140942775Mr.Chutchapong commemoration of the species have Deputy Transport and Mrs. David spouses property rights were THB 51,658,928 compared to the 27 May 2555 retired with the assets , liabilities 51,879,510 Baht 5 billion baht, so that a spouse case . Assets over liabilities of 51,379,510 BahtMR Pongsvas Svasti , Minister of Industry and silence to her, and Svasti spouse and minor children are assets , liabilities 5,251,070 THB 47,260,694 THB 42,009,624 THB , so has assets over liabilities compared . Case retired on 27 October 2555 with assets, liabilities 6,256,823 THB 48,917,202 THB 42,660,379 THB , so has assets over liabilities .MD . Surachai Konsomboon deputy health minister. Completed woman Pantip and the spouse assets 100 915 669 liabilities assets over liabilities 1,124,614 99,791,054 THB THB therefore compared to the 27 October 2555 retired with assets, liabilities 3,904,055 THB 98,622,878 THB 94,718,822 THB , the assets over liabilities case .Health Minister Withaya Buranasiri has no assets, liabilities THB 13,633,754 compared to the 27 October 2555 on the liabilities in debt 566,088 THB 13,278,939 THB 12,712,851 THB retirement with assets case, has assets over liabilities .Education Minister Suchart Thada - Thamrongvech and Mrs. Tada Golf Thamrongvech spouse has assets of THB 37,833,915 compared to the debt at 27 May 2555 retired with no assets , liabilities 33,653,261 baht.Science and Technology Minister , Mr free experience Saraswati Saraswati and wife Tanya spouse assets 967 986 935 THB 3,279,240 THB liabilities assets over liabilities 964 707 695 baht , so compared to the 27 October 2555 retired Baht 963,545,185 with assets not debt case .Mr. Minister, cultural and popular it , Mr.Sonthaya spouse you pleased and minor children are assets , liabilities 134 548 900 104 824 830 29,724,069 Baht Baht Baht , so that the assets over its liabilities to the case withdrawn 27 Oktober 2555th Assets 131 356 808 47,696,514 Baht debts with assets over liabilities 83,660,294 Baht THB way.Mr.Chuchat Hans Award deputy interior minister has assets 166 264 370 THB 16,600 THB liabilities assets over liabilities 166 247 770 baht , so compared to the 27 October 2555 retired with assets, liabilities 163 609 112 133 232 947 30,376,165 Baht Baht Baht case , so that the assets do not as a burden.Deputy Minister of Commerce , Mr. and Mrs. ceremonyMr tea Kajornprasart a spouse and minor children . With assets over liabilities of THB 47,297,073 compared to the debt at 27 October 2555 over liabilities 46,770,440 THB debt retired with assets.Mr. and Mrs. Deputy Commerce Minister Poom Sarapon Onanong Sarapon spouse has assets of THB 41,486,116 compared to the debt at 27 May 2555 retired with no assets , liabilities 44,652,578 baht.Mr. Arak Srijunpetch Minister of Energy and Mrs. Benja Srijunpetch spouse has assets of THB 71,867,178 compared to the debt at 27 May 2555 retired with no assets , liabilities 70,450,003 baht.The comparison between the cases , the items of assets and liabilities. Was signed on 27 October 2555 retired to the office for one year on 26 October to vacate 2556 and found that Mr. Viroon Techapaiboon and spouses of the original debt . Found that the total debt of 3.8 million baht .Holdings and spouse have more assets and liabilities 443 255 THB 54,617 THB , Mr. Charupong more Ruangsuwan and spouse with assets of 3.2 billion baht and liabilities of the marriage has increased nearly five hundred thousand Baht.Lieutenant Joshua Alta and spouse were almost 500 million baht assets and liabilities of a spouse , an increase of 6.3 million baht.As Mr Chat chart and spouses ownership by 2.2 billion baht and liabilities of his wife five hundred baht, was also gone.Woman and her spouse were found to have increased by 3.1 million baht assets liabilities decreased to almost 18 million baht .To find Mr -free experience and your spouse a property of 1.1 million baht liabilities increased by Baht 3.2 million of leasing cars. The Lord science debt 5.6 billion baht.MR Pongsawasdi And reduced with spouse assets and liabilities of 1.6 million baht , a decrease of 1 million baht. -
6. Mr. Chalerm YubamrungJust googled his name.out come: Twenty Club discothequeout come: Drunkout come: The cabinet yesterday (13.12.2011) approved the appointment of an associate of Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung's son as director of the Public Warehouse Organisation.His son takes care of the rice stockpile!
Thaksin's nephew to stand in Thai polls
in Thailand News
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Taksins best friend is Nr. 6 on PT Party List
He has 3 sons.
One killed/executed a police officer in a disco.
Now he is a high ranking police officer!
The other son is a director of the Public Warehouse Organisation
He takes care of the rice stockpile!
6. Mr. Chalerm Yubamrung