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Interpretations of immigration laws by the CNX office change now on a weekly basis. Amazing Thailand. Not.

They invade from Mae Rim now? *scared*

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30 minutes ago, eyecatcher said:

Perhaps another thing they just want to "drive" when it suits them.

It's not registered in any database anyway. Just a piece of paper. Perhaps they do, if a hotel registers you, the 1600B guys do not. Lose the receipt and pay up again. Or up to the weather.

They will rip you off anyway. I tried last time to do the TM30 thing when coming back from Europe. That was on a Monday morning, arrived Saturday and Sunday they obviously do not open. The guy ruling in that building behind the usual office firstly changed my details into that of my wife, who is not the legal owner, then asked me to pay 1600B because I own the house through a usufruct. Complete rubbish. So, conclusion is, if you don't have a TM30 filed yet. just wait until the time arises and pay the 1600B "penalty". Or sit it out and hope for a change. They just moved it back to the airport office, whpo says it may not go back to Promenada or elsewhere. Alternatively do your immigration stuff in BKK or elsewhere.

If you travel within Thailand, more than 24h, a TM28 should be required, not a TM30. That's all rubbish anyway, as they don't know their own rules. So pay up the 1600B, that's the message.

The problem is not the price to pay but the place to stay. Get an apartment nearby your daily activities, perhaps a nice one and pay 10k more, rather then a house outside.

Far out (Hang Dong) it is 200B.

Get an apartment somewhere close to the daily commute. If possible walking distance. Should set you back not more than 10k, without all the hassle that comes with a house.

The condo management is not in charge of the TM30, the owner is. If they do it for you, good.

Immigration does not follow the law, I'm usufructus for the house, not my wife. They changed the paper into my wives name where she is not legally the owner and wanted me to sign it for 1600B penalty, even if just arrived from abroad.

So this is all a made up rip off. Be prepared to pay another 1600B for every extension from now on. Or get it in BKK or get a visa from abroad.

1 hour ago, Dante99 said:

You guys seriously give a shit about that?

 

 

No

It's not real Guiness, it's made by Thai Bev, the same guys that make Chang. Even if they import it, it comes from local breweries in SG or MY.

They obviously run out of other sources of income in CNX. The TM30 thing is the next after they got busted with the 500B scam for residence certificate through agencies. Only a question of time until the next BS gets made up. Probably easier to get the extension from BKK again or just a new yearly visa from abroad.

Haven't done a 90 days for a while, what happened, why you guys go berserk?

Just drop by at Promenada, 14:30 seems to be a good time now, or send it by snail mail as always. 

Oh well, I'd certainly not be surprised if some local morons made that requirement up too :). First time I hear such thing and it does not make any sense. But TiT...

If you are saying some areas require a yellow housebook to get an extension of stay, I say this is simply wrong. A YTB is not and has never been a requirement to get an extension.

Immigration does not know if you have one or not, thus it makes no sense to ask for it. Although some places may accept it instead of a rental contract, if you present it to them. Entirely up to you. It is not a requirement for an extension of stay to have a yellow housebook.

3 hours ago, khwaibah said:

 

Was your YTB/PC from Bangkok used for your extension in CNX ?

No, it was neither used in BKK nor in CNX for anything related to immigration. You also don't need any certificate of residence for an extension, it is only required to show a rental contract or house book from wife (or papers from the company, no WP).

YTB and immigration are complete different and independent constructs, but that I said already.

There are different pink ID's, historically they were issued to hilltribes, thus the regional limitation.

The ones we get now as farangs with yellow housebook have a validity of 10 years and are not linked to any visa, there is simply none valid for 10 years :). It also says "general alien", not permanent resident or hilltribe. I believe there are no longer permanent resident cards but just the ones for general aliens. This was reported several times.

My one has that regional clause, but it's now more than a year old already. They may have changed that too in the meantime. But there is certainly no linkage to the extension of stay. My YTB/pink card is issued from BKK, whereas my extension is from CNX and they have no clue that I have one or the other.  

So there seems still to be a lot of confusion around.

The "only in the province" thing is irrelevant as you possess a valid visa or extension of stay for the whole country. The limitation on the backside comes from the (previous) card usage for stateless hilltribes. 

I personally do not mind, have my fingerprints all over the world :). In SG I can walk through the automatic immigration (if it works), in TH they have similar things. It's stored in your passport they scan every single time you go in and out. Not that it makes a huge difference, but most of the data they have anyway or get if required. It's just paranoia.

Check the flooding in the past. This area may be prone to water damage. Someone posted a map recently, but I don't recall where. May have been in FB.

Thais take your fingerprints when you apply for a new passport. That is in the German Consulate. I know of people complaining about that and they went to the embassy in Bangkok to have a German guy watching them having their fingers scanned. It's just a question of how paranoid one wants to get. Up to you as they say here

Sorry, you are misled. Immigration and yellow housebook have (unfortunately) nothing at all to do together. It would be great if they had that link so carrying the pink ID would be enough to prove your visa status. But it is not. So you still would have to carry your passport around, or if not make a bet that you wont be checked.

Proof of residency can be made in several forms, letter from immigration, embassy/consulate, house book or work permit. Again all of them have nothing to do or any correlation to each other.

What makes you think that? The Thai system works differently from western countries. You need to be registered somewhere, not at the place you live.

That has nothing to do with immigration and arrival card, TM28 or TM30. Complete independent system. Yellow book/pink card and immigration are not linked in any way. Which is actually counterproductive as you still need to carry your passport around. But that's as it is.