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So they use the bully boy tactics and haven't yet forwarded the lawyers the 4000 page case against her.

well i dont care whatever as long as they put this lying smug evil clone in her place even if it takes a mass suppression of vile red shirt thugs People forget easily and quickly chaos caused by her big brother and less than 1 year ago attempt to give amnesty to a criminal

It probably will be a "diplomatic" report. As the whole investigation was messed up big time there will be no reason to upset Thai authorities.

I wouldn't be that pessimistic

Anyway good there is another headline about this utterly evil case.

It should not disappear from headlines and from consciousness until it is properly solved and justice is done

If Thailand, her police and politicians lose face big time and much more - so be it. Well deserved

I've had this conversation before with a few Thai People, and 99 percent of them, don't want Foreigners to own anything, ??? But they are happy to own stuff abroad if they live in that Country.

I explained to them that , that was the same, but they could not see it ???

For me, it would be a Great start if they could move into the 21st Century and clean the place up, in all respects....

im forang and agree that forages should not own land here and rest of regulations ITs not the same sol stop pretending it is. Rich west people could and would come here and buy up all they can leaving thais with nothing. Same as rich London people have bought up cottages in UK so now local people can no longer afford a home. My This wife has property in UK and USA but she's quite wealthy and is not depriving a local from a home. The people depriving UK people of thru own home are UK citizens doing buy to let not foreigners buying up property except maybe in London. At moment here at least outside centres of Bangkok a most home can be bought by many Thais with a fairly low income of say 15000 pm ++. LEt forang come here unimpeded and that would soon not be the case

"So it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government because it had no doubt about the investigation being conducted by the Thai police, said Pol Lt Gen Prawut."

Anyone still believing in any of this BS??

i agree BS but sorry this is here and how would you in your country feel if some forang said they dont trust your police sorry it is same. I understand 100% why they should say piss off forang this is not your country and agree but instead of saying that whatever the truth is Thais aren uch more polite than us forang. What about BS on sex scandals in /UK and all rest when police and authorities were totally inept and corrupt so mr know it all for forang here people in glass houses should not throw stones

It does not help at all in trying to find truth by demeaning police and authorities here even if its true and often police here are very corrupt but IMO west and forang here are hypocritical idiots

as far as I'm concerned and my Thai family and many thai friends we will support anything that gets rid of the vile creature a d hid clone and all the shin clan for ever. This includes if need be suppression of press stopping hs red shirt thug army broadcasting their pathetic proper gander to inundated and gullible poor many of whom who through no fault of their own are easily swayed by a few hundred baht or promises of riches in future. IT also includes if needed house arrest without trial or if that does not work prison for any who keep trying to impose their masters will on suffering thais and continue to promote his long term aim of becoming of first dictator president of Thailand. Country is now largely at peace and red shirt dangerous violence put in its place. If it takes years to put last 10+ years of Taksin totally corrupt regime so be it even if it replaces it with a new back to normal 10% corruption which Taksin replaced with I want it all. In over 30 years here I and friends who have been here longer have seen over Taksin last 10+ years increasing levels of greed and corruption and whole stinking mess turn Thailand from a law abiding working growing place steadily improving in standards of living, education and health to nothing more than a slowly disintergrating state and thank goodness Taksin has not been able yet to destroy it all.

IF you fell its not right well then leave please. Most of us who have been here a long time totally approve of the general and will support him 100% unless which wont happen severe human rights are broken and i dont mean relatively small losses of some freedoms and if it does not go asa far as some of Taksins deed in the past where many were killed without trial.

are you nuts for goodness sake if its a one person operation why on earn would anyone in their right mind want to open a company a bank account maybe and if your GF does not even know as others have said how to go to a bank and open an account that's totally pathetic

We've got an under sink one. As soon as the flow rate drops or it tastes funny, I'll change the filters. Been about a year since we've had it. I'm still alive. Spare filter that came with it is still in the cupboard.

iof its proper reverse osmosis it has little to do with filters at least 30 years ago when i sold first ones in UK

This might sound rude but I can't understand how expats here esp if they are retired can have their wife/gf working for that sort of money per day.

Means you can't go and travel etc etc.

My gf doesn't work for that very reason. If we were in AU sure she could work and get at least 600/hour.

I could go home for a month and make 180000bath.

How could I have her work in Thailand

I live on 6,000 baht a month ( inc my rent of 2000 baht a month ) and the 6,000 baht includes rent,food,water,electric,train trips etc etc! Yes it can be done! ( i have been doing it for a while now! )

F.J x

i pity you we pay much more for our elec bill but we do have 6 air cons and i9m not boasting just stating facts

It is 300Baht per day according to the law.

Except for Cambodians, Burmese, Laotians, farang teachers, Digital nomads and some others.

I think they get a little less.

if nation can get any good worker for 300 a day be he/she burmese forang teacher or other and they are any good come work for us we pay good workers Burmese at least 400 a day but they do have to be good and not lazy sods as most here IMO are

Where exactly has PTP failed?

Every time there is a fair contest, they win.

This is why the Yellows keep having to play outside the rules (i.e. cheat).

Realizing that you must not have been here at the time, but both of Thaksin's parties (TRT and PPP) were the ones guilty of cheating.

In typical "brilliant" Thaksin style they cheated in elections that they would have won even without cheating, but, yet, they still cheated.

And after they were disbanded the first time.....they repeated it a second time... and were disbanded again.

Yes, Thaksin is a genius.

All three of Thaksin's parties have been accused of cheating by sore losers. No reputable international body believes Thaksin bought or stole any of the 6 elections he has won - only yellow peanuts think otherwise.

sore looser aren't you thank you kuun Suphet for standing up to most vile would be megalomaniac dictator Thailand has ever seen

The junta's action in taking absolute power was illegal under the existing Constitution and a number of articles under the Criminal Code. Is Pheu Thai now conceding that its performance as the legitimate government of Thailand was so bad that it justified the coup and that they are now repenting on the creation of a situation in which treason was in some way a legitimate response?

i dont care nor does my Thai family or many Thai friends if it keeps vile Shins out and head of pile of @##$%#@# Taksin out. Believe me for a lot here hatred of Reds and shins far outweighs if not in bought support supporters of Reds and Taksin

i really hope that vile creature at last gets his own justice after totally neglecting to do his job and simply following orders of his master abroad

"When asked about international concerns over the investigation, Mr. Thawatchai said that Thai police will be able to answer every doubt raised but no outside authorities can send their people to work on this case as Thai laws do not permit such a scenario."

The answers the BIB give to every doubt is the cause of international concern.

As to what Thai laws allow, you might want to check with the PM about that, as Burmese and UK police are coming over/already here to look at the case.

To observe as stated in the article. They are not here to investigate.

Yeah right. They're just going to accept a plate full of BIB BS and then walk away saying its all lovely and nice here.

Don't think so.

They will want to look at the DNA and if it matches then fine. If not I doubt they'll just shrug their shoulders and walk away.

You don't need to investigate anything to find the flaws if they exist, just examine the evidence and draw conclusions.

The confession is gone and suddenly doesn't matter.

What's the next domino to fall?

i guarantee in a few months it ail pall blow over and UK Burma and rest will just go along with whatever. Lip service and politeness will be paid to concerns but nothing more and yes UK police will just also do nothing nor can they. Some people are so naive to think this ism ore than a little ant as far as Thai authorities are concerned and as far as need for UK too keep good relationships with Thailand not other way round. Sad for parents but thats the reality. Just look at scandals in UK and total lack of investigation in recent high profile pedophile cases involving many high connected people and 1500 young girls in was it manchester abused and place social and rest simply whitewashed it all.

i dont care now does my this family or many friends what he might be like what he did before weather he's a hiso or whatever i my this family and many this friends are just thankful he stood up to most evil nasty would be dictator controlling it all from Dubai and hopefully put an end to that person and whole vile shin clan for ever.

typing error again english is not my best subject of course i meant 1 my this family and many this friends are just grateful to him and dont care if he does not bother to attend some stupid court trying to blame him for what was IMO 100% you redshirt supporters due to the redshirts and their master

try again i my thai family and many thai friends computer keyboard gets a bit stuck

i dont care now does my this family or many friends what he might be like what he did before weather he's a hiso or whatever i my this family and many this friends are just thankful he stood up to most evil nasty would be dictator controlling it all from Dubai and hopefully put an end to that person and whole vile shin clan for ever.

typing error again english is not my best subject of course i meant 1 my this family and many this friends are just grateful to him and dont care if he does not bother to attend some stupid court trying to blame him for what was IMO 100% you redshirt supporters due to the redshirts and their master

i dont care now does my this family or many friends what he might be like what he did before weather he's a hiso or whatever i my this family and many this friends are just thankful he stood up to most evil nasty would be dictator controlling it all from Dubai and hopefully put an end to that person and whole vile shin clan for ever.

The survey showed that 94 per cent of tourists from the United Kingdom have knowledge of the murder, against 73 per cent in other European countries, such as Austria, Spain, France, Russia, Germany, Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands.

Why not from Burma?

Tourists, not all-but-slave labour.

The concern in this survey is clearly more about how tourist revenue is being effected.

In that equation Burmese don't matter.

burmese are not used as slave labour anymore than Thais are. We pay our burmese workers 12-15000 a month plus 1 day a week off and overtime for a 8 hour day working on our farm at maids. They get this because they are legal they work hard they dont take piss. On other hand we've had Burmese who do take piss lazy and useless and they are given boot very quickly. Any burmese or for that matter Thai who works hard is honest can easily find plenty of well paid jobs with forang or good companies. We also give regular wage reviews and good bonuses every 3 months. We've also had good Thai workers but like a lot they are lazy and believe they deserve our good pay., We've had lots go either because grass seemed greener and left us without notice and begged us for jobs back and some wed take back for sure but others thought they could take the piss and never understood or will understand they are only valuable to get higher pay if they work well, are reliable donut take piss.

Many people we know say we are stupid to pay so much and in same breath say we arelucky to have such good workers.

ill add many of my friends booth This and forang employ burmese and pay them same as Thais and dont try to underpay just because they are Burmese. They also know value of good staff and pay ,much more but i also know many tHais and forang who pay as little as they can and get bad workers and wonder why. Everone has to make a living except in west where welfare scroungers can libel irk parasites of rest of us which is why i left 20+ years ago

The survey showed that 94 per cent of tourists from the United Kingdom have knowledge of the murder, against 73 per cent in other European countries, such as Austria, Spain, France, Russia, Germany, Sweden, Italy and the Netherlands.

Why not from Burma?

Tourists, not all-but-slave labour.

The concern in this survey is clearly more about how tourist revenue is being effected.

In that equation Burmese don't matter.

burmese are not used as slave labour anymore than Thais are. We pay our burmese workers 12-15000 a month plus 1 day a week off and overtime for a 8 hour day working on our farm at maids. They get this because they are legal they work hard they dont take piss. On other hand we've had Burmese who do take piss lazy and useless and they are given boot very quickly. Any burmese or for that matter Thai who works hard is honest can easily find plenty of well paid jobs with forang or good companies. We also give regular wage reviews and good bonuses every 3 months. We've also had good Thai workers but like a lot they are lazy and believe they deserve our good pay., We've had lots go either because grass seemed greener and left us without notice and begged us for jobs back and some wed take back for sure but others thought they could take the piss and never understood or will understand they are only valuable to get higher pay if they work well, are reliable donut take piss.

Many people we know say we are stupid to pay so much and in same breath say we arelucky to have such good workers.

You may be sure that I will ensure my son properly understands democracy in all its forms, and with all its inconsistencies; the essence of factual history; and the importance of making up of his own mind in regard to national cultures, in all forms ...

if you can and i hope you can but if you cant or are not there for whatever reason only hope is proper education which here is a good international school. I was always against private education but have totally changed my mind not only for here but also in UK. Here almost all this state schools are pathetic in UK it depends where you live and their are many many state schools in UK IMO which are worse than even some of worse ones here

Well, in the P5 book social studies book, they have 3 cartoons of a fat falang approaching a Thai family at a restaurant, no money, smelly and asking for funds. Until they remove that, other changes will not happen.

Yes - i also have seen Xenophobic stuff produced by this system -(prior to Junta )

A daughters friend brought over her school books over whilst we were in Thailand last year.

""Dad look at this "" she asked .

I saw images of western men trying to solve a Car problem.

Both wore Thongs (flip flops) and had singlets on and obese and a beer in their hands -

Looking puzzled , a Thai is then seen fixing the car -

This time the man is neat and looks bright and focused.

The pretty Thai business lady thanks him

Whilst the western men look on with lustful eyes for her and Tongue out.

She tips the Thai man who is seen giving it to the monks at the temple .

A Thai insert says *(translation)

""Service to others is important even silly Farang can learn from Thai examples"

In another there were more westerners and again portrayed as drinking and smoking and lusting after the woman .

A bar girl is seen being asked by a Monk why she mixes with such people?

""I know such people are sinful but i want to help my family she says""

The western men look again leering and evil as well as stupid and smelly .

This was before the Junta so they can't be blamed

Though i can't imagine whats going to be in future publications

I've seen those kind of stories before. The one I saw from 3 years ago was warning Thai school children about the dangers of meeting farang online and was Thai reading material for Pratom 5 students given out in class. I think Pratom 5 translates to roughly 10 year-old primary school children.

The following are a few pictures from the book. The picture of the farang is not too complimentary

The story accompanying the pictures went something like this. A couple of young Thai girls meet and chat with a farang online who describes himself as young and handsome so they decide to meet him in Bangkok.

However on meeting up as arranged he turns out to be a 'fat old pot-bellied farang' who's used someone else's photo while chatting to them on the internet. The girls are too embarrassed to leave and he tells them he wants to go try some delicious Thai food. They take him to a restaurant but when it's time to pay he checks his wallet and tells them he's lost his money. The girls end up having to scrape the money together to pay for the meal which they only just manage to do between them. When one of the girls goes to the toilet one of the staff informs her that the farang doesn't live abroad at all but is actually resident in Pattaya and pulls this scam often. The story finishes by warning it was lucky the girls didn't go alone or much worse could have happened.

Download link to scan of story in pdf format:

http://www.filedropper.com/faranginbook

same as we warned our kids about Thai men in fact not Thai men we said men of any race or woman. Its quite fair to use bad image of many forang here as basically scum bags to warn in particular school girls of dangers of being seduced by nasty forang men. They already know dangers of many this men but like most believe all forang are rich many are totally unaware of some forang also pose very high risks

So now Thai history is going to be 50% lies.

same as every other countries teaching of history id say

Insular. Xenaphobic. Racist. Elitist. Not only history, but geography are not taught at all well over here. Kids don't know where anywhere outside SE Asia is. They don't know about WW II or the Vietnam war, or genocide in Cambodia. Seriously sad state of affairs. One of the many reasons i'm thinking of going back to the UK after 11 wonderful years here, is for my 9 year old son. I've got to the point i want him growing up as an English boy with a Thai mother, rather than a Thai boy with a Felang dad.

Well I am old now so I can't say much on what they teach in schools in the west now. Even my kids are getting on in years.

When I was in school they didn't teach much about the East. Just that it was there. As for history they taught nothing. I applaud your decision to take your son back to the cold Brittan for an education. But I doubt he will learn much of the East in his history. Certainly learn about the evil of Hitler. I have several friends with plans to return home strictly for the reason to give their kids a better education.

Let us hope that Thailand is finally on the road to a real education. The signs look good. So far.

a lot of english education is also total crap unless you live in a good area same as while a lot of UK national health service is fantastic much is awful Personally i would dread having to live and educate kids here or in UK equally if one did not have very significant income or funds.

Insular. Xenaphobic. Racist. Elitist. Not only history, but geography are not taught at all well over here. Kids don't know where anywhere outside SE Asia is. They don't know about WW II or the Vietnam war, or genocide in Cambodia. Seriously sad state of affairs. One of the many reasons i'm thinking of going back to the UK after 11 wonderful years here, is for my 9 year old son. I've got to the point i want him growing up as an English boy with a Thai mother, rather than a Thai boy with a Felang dad.

if you cant afford a good international school id move now our w had a wonderful education and are and grew up totally as wonderful well adjusted adalescents but my Thai wife does feel they are to much english than Thai. She's always said she wanted them to grow up with all good parts of western culture such as ability to question, logical thought, self relieance and rest but also good parts of Thai culture being politeness respect thinking of how others feel.

It was really difficult many many times but I believe we succeeded. Of course without money to give them that type of education and obey to buy experiences such as skiing trips to Japan and many other countries and rest. Ive noticed that many elite thais are well educated and not anti forang at all although the typical beer swilling lost or dirty old man found in many places here do not help give thais a good image of us forang.