Scarpolo

Cleaning your rear end is too far.

I want to quote, but I won't.,

hopped in the shower with her last night though,

which is close enough

I think some people, not you, didnt understand fully the OP

This is about what they do which is unique to thai girls,

my experience with them, is very limited, only a few

and this is the first I have actually lived with

Never dated an Isaan girl, so can't really agree with you. Don't see the attraction to support a Thai man's spawn and her destitute family (many obviously disagree through their actions).

Some girls make 200,000 a month, some make 2,000. What's your point? Yes, I'm bald and short. How would you fuc_ki*ng suggest I fix those 2 problems. You some kind of magician?

Its so easy to crticize someone else when they have no control over baldness and height. I take great care of my body so I'm certainly not fat. Its called a gym everyday.

Now dating a gorgeous 32 year old Thai girl, no kids (requirement for me) who grew up in the States. Sooooo much easier in every way. She has a new CRV, condo downtown, family owns 6 Family Marts in Bangkok. Completely obsessed with sex everyday….I couldn't be happier. It was just a matter of continuing to look and getting a lucky break.

Vin Diesel is bald and short,

what is your point?

perhaps, it is a weight issue too?

A bloke asking asking other blokes what girls think. Add to that what they think in a language most of them don't understand.

Bound to be some gems in this thread!

To say that theese girls aren't "different" just wouldnt be accurate,

This morning, she offered and I agreed foe her to cut my toe nails and finger nails,

What western girl would even do her own nails, much less her man's?

This is the kind of thing I am talking about

Maybe your nails are long and dirty and it was getting to her. Personally someone else cutting my nails is up there with trimming my nose hairs - likely to be painful.

Could use a close trimming in the nose too,

but how far is too far!

What is gorgeous in Thailand?

Before the makeup to make them look like every other firl in Los Angeles,

or after?

My girl is two for the price of one:

All that on the inside, including the home,

International looking girl, on the outside...

A bloke asking asking other blokes what girls think. Add to that what they think in a language most of them don't understand.

Bound to be some gems in this thread!

To say that theese girls aren't "different" just wouldnt be accurate,

This morning, she offered and I agreed foe her to cut my toe nails and finger nails,

What western girl would even do her own nails, much less her man's?

This is the kind of thing I am talking about

Quote:

"We all know, they love our money, and the louder they claim otherwise, the less likely they are being honest with both themselves, and us,"

Of course it is a bit different back home where the women have more rights and possibilities to take care of themselves and where old people, children and jobless people, are taken care of through government funded social systems.

Even with all of those systems in place back home, there are women that divorce their husbands, because they are not earning/providing enough.

Back home, if a girl choses to marry a well off young man, that can give her what she wants and needs, instead of a poor young street-sweeper, whom she even might love more, it is also being regarded as a wise and sound decision.

Usually the girls back home seem to be purely "love driven" in their relationship-choices at a young age but when they grow up a bit more, other factors start to come into play, when choosing partners.

Luckily back home the young girls are in the fortunate position to do so because there are no financial pressures yet at that age.

Down here, life is just a bit different.

Any old fart coming down here to marry a young princess should keep this in mind.

The age old Long Island anecdote for that syndrome is,

"marry the first time for love, the second time for money"

The mantra of the New York females

i was wondering do Thai males give dowrys and if so i bet they dont give tousands on Bahts, why oh why do farangs fall for this, the best option is if ya want to live in Thailand dont get invloved with a lady who will fleece you (yeah they all do i know) but to live on your own and spend your money on a "bar-girl" once a week believe me you will have much variation and thousands of Bahts beter off lol !!

Believe me I have been there and done that with the bar girls and my appetite is such that I have to have one every night and of course I do get through a lot of money that way (approx. double my budget). I will never be 100% for one girl and I still like the bit on the side when I get the chance. After 30 years of faithfulness in my second marriage I decided it was time for a change and not restrict myself to only one woman anymore and not be too committed. The girlfriend and possible future wife is a good option for me and for what she costs me is only a fraction of what I would be paying if I was in the bars all the time. I think I mentioned that I was upset for only 24 hours after my Thai wife left me and she was a stunner but I can move on very quickly. Yes most of the Thai girls are taking advantage but so am I and getting sex once or twice a day very cheaply. By getting a village marriage if I can find a way of getting around the dowry problem hopefully this arrangement we have can carry on. If things turn out badly I am only 15 minutes from the airport.

Ages, please?

I am 62 and my girlfriend is the opposite 26 so you can probably appreciate that at my age I would be lucky to get sex once a day for free.

Ratio of 62 to 26 is perhaps the most remarkable I have ever heard,

I am at near 54- 32 which is almost normal next to you.,

I now understand what she is sex crazed.....

Perhaps, I am under shooting!

at 32-33, she is starting to "nest"

I am encouraged by your ratio;

but, this was from a bar, or a higher end place?

i was wondering do Thai males give dowrys and if so i bet they dont give tousands on Bahts, why oh why do farangs fall for this, the best option is if ya want to live in Thailand dont get invloved with a lady who will fleece you (yeah they all do i know) but to live on your own and spend your money on a "bar-girl" once a week believe me you will have much variation and thousands of Bahts beter off lol !!

Believe me I have been there and done that with the bar girls and my appetite is such that I have to have one every night and of course I do get through a lot of money that way (approx. double my budget). I will never be 100% for one girl and I still like the bit on the side when I get the chance. After 30 years of faithfulness in my second marriage I decided it was time for a change and not restrict myself to only one woman anymore and not be too committed. The girlfriend and possible future wife is a good option for me and for what she costs me is only a fraction of what I would be paying if I was in the bars all the time. I think I mentioned that I was upset for only 24 hours after my Thai wife left me and she was a stunner but I can move on very quickly. Yes most of the Thai girls are taking advantage but so am I and getting sex once or twice a day very cheaply. By getting a village marriage if I can find a way of getting around the dowry problem hopefully this arrangement we have can carry on. If things turn out badly I am only 15 minutes from the airport.

Ages, please?

US customs, what a joke. There's a law against profiling minorities, so just to fulfill there job, they only randomly select US citizens, mostly white since white is a non-color. Every time I travel, the "Homeland Security" a BS organization created by Clinton breaks the locks & trashes my bags, but than again I travel out of LAX. It's only got worse under Obama, but outside of the US puppet presidents, name is irrelevant. Have to go back in a couple months, so thanks OP for the heads up. As far as pedophilles which are being granted amnesty coming from the southern boarder, mark it up to just politics as usual in the US.

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I've traveled here out of LAX many times. The only times I've had my locks cut was when they were not TSA approved. And the bag was never trashed. I've probably had 4 locks cut. Just replaced them over the years with TSA approved locks and have not had one cut since then.

If you are worried about your bag's security, watch this:

Your luck and my error, not Homeland but TSA. I do have TSA approved locks. Love those cards they put in your bag after trashing your stuff. All complaints of course will be on deaf ears. However between the TSA Elitists, the garbage peasant Baggage Handlers & Customs long wait & followed interrogation, LAX (my point) is the worst, aside from being the most bias airport in America. Bit of a sway from the original OP, just a bit touchy for me & another reason why I live here.

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Travel in and out frequently,

Always have my bags opened,

Always have the leaflet inside,

Never notice anything moved,

Sometimes they don't rezip my laptop bags,

I usually have two inside one suitcase,

They always open them,

TIP:

Always have the battery drained so they cant rurn it on,

Always have the chargers, in a separate bag.

Never carry contraband,

Never have pills out of the prescription box,

Never have any trouble.

Always expect sniffer dogs to be near you as you wait in line,

Keep your nose clean,

sail thru customs

I'm curious....why are there 7 states in America where you don't pay income tax? Is it to encourage people to move there?

> It is also one of just 7 states that doesn't have a state income tax.

Whether a state decides to have a state income tax - on top of the federal one all US citizens must pay - is up to the voters of that state.

Same with sales taxes etc, which in some cases are added to by a given city on top of the state one.

The populations of some states are just anti-tax in general and do their best to keep their level of government as small as possible.

Schools are often largely funded from local real estate taxes, which is why there is so much variation from one town or county to the next.

Correct,

Also, low population states such as Alaska, Nevada, do use this as a mechanism to incentivize possible retirees and others to relocate or remain in their state.

In no-state-income-tax Florida we just stick it to the tourists via hotel and car rental taxes.

Dont forget the taxi's

a 30 minute ride ina taxi in BKK, without traffic, is maximum 300 baht, $10.00

In Floirda that same ride, say Fort Lauderdale Airport to Miami airport, $ 70.00

With the prior anlysis, if accurate, this all seems pretty damn reasonable

The REAL secret IMHO is never to think you actually "know" the "reality" of what's going on.

Because even if they "really are" one way one day, everything may quite well genuinely change the next.

And maybe they were that way all along or maybe not, maybe it was your fault just as much as hers who knows?

My point is who cares, nothing to be gained by over-analyzing things once they go pear-shaped.

Just structure your arrangements in such a way that it doesn't in fact matter, at any given time you can walk away or she can walk away with no hard feelings either side.

Going into business together, owning property together, all these types of complications just cause all kinds of unintended consequences. Sometimes the worse of which is the fact that people stick together long after they should have split up making each other and themselves miserable in the process.

Keep it simple. . .

Again,

the best advice; and they way I operate, mostly.

the reason I started the thread is because,

there is a missing component, and that is one of expressed affection,

sometimes, some girls, especially the very pretty one's; aren;t very affectionate.

My last wife was gorgeous, but also, old school,

the culture here, has them also, well into the old school, and it just may be the deal killer here

I have already told her, she is with a western, modern man,

she cannot expect me to accept her mother's daughter,

and, as with my last with, this is who they "think" they are

it's like their mothers live inside their head, or worse, are whispering in their ear, while we are whispering in their other ear,

there was a comedian in the States who died, who had a shoe that spoke to that

so, I will continue to rent,

she will continue to hope,

I will not be satisfied,

she will stay in her sad life.

the other night she confessed, she is willing to sacrifice her life and her body for her mother and her brother and nephew.

her older brother was murdered for his scooter years ago,

I cannot fight this,

nor,

will I,

but, I won't leave a good thing either

as I would not pay the sinsod... It's a great filter to find out if she really wants to go for a long time or is just interested in big money of sinsod (for the family) and then find another buffalo farang...

I prefer filters that don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

In fact I'd say doing it with your attitude makes it all the more likely you end up with the long-con scammers, they'll go along with your weird farang "no sin sot" rule, but only because they're aware of ways to make sure they get a LOT more out of you.

Yes her parents told him it was Thai Custom:)

None of my Thai friends have paid it

Then you don't have many Thai friends, or at least not normal ones; in fact I'm calling BS.

Thai-on-Thai marriages without sin sot would be well under 1% across the board, personally out of hundreds I've attended never even heard of ONE.

Maybe there are some sub-cultures, hill-tribes or different religions that don't do it, but I haven't come across any within the Kingdom.

My girlfriends mother, is VERY old school,

She will want it,

Assuming I was interested.

I am not, at the moment.

Her friends are all old school too, and they all do it

The OP asked;

"how do they express their love?"

You didn't contribute to the thread with your alcoholic styled rant is all

In the US it is pretty common to buy an engagement ring and give it to woman when she aggress to marry you.

The value of the ring generally depends on the financial situation of the groom, but a general rule of thumb is three month's salery.

Isn't that like paying a woman to marry you?

Maybe in the US. Do you also buy a ring for her parents ?

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I asked my last mother in law if she was going to make a wedding for us,

She said no,

We got married, and didnt invite them.

My g/f here, does not expect me to marry her,

I am just happy to be here

The vast majority of lawyers entering the field nowadays,. unless they are in Washington DC, working for a lobbyist group.

will never repay their student loans, and never live happy lives

The medical field, is all that is left as dar as the need for a degree,

everything else is a 4-7 year waste of time that those smarter will already have 4-7 years experience over you, so no,

it is not the same USA,

Sales fields, aside, as a good salesman, will never starve,

the US doesnt need more Finance or Law degrees, but medicine and nursing, nurse practictioner, you have my vote

In the US it is pretty common to buy an engagement ring and give it to woman when she aggress to marry you.

The value of the ring generally depends on the financial situation of the groom, but a general rule of thumb is three month's salery.

Isn't that like paying a woman to marry you?

Very good example,

And those rings are generally starting at $3,000 to $5,000 US, or 100,000 to 150,000 baht.

Sin Sot suddenly seems very very cheap to the white man

Black and Asian Americans don't get divorced?

from what I can see in this country, blacks dont stand a chance with thai girls, so, no.

it cuts two ways, and sometimes brings unexpected benefits,

example:

took Thai girlfriend to Asiatique this weekend, specifically to go on the ferris wheel,

got there, walked around until she had the courage, and bought two tickets, clealy stated Adults 250 baht.

private car, 1000 baht.

my g/f objected to the private car price and told me, not to pay it, we can go w others.

I gave the older female cashier 1,000 baht and asked for two non private tickets, she gave ne back 550 baht. I didnt understand why, but took it,

got to the line, chatted it up w a canadien couple, and then looked at the tickets, my girlfriends ticket was 200 baht, so, I savd 50 baht!,

but, it wasnt over, after fully expecting to have to share the car now,

I decided to test the system, and gave the two tickets to my g/f to hand to the young thai kid working the isle,

to my delight, he waved just me up, and gave up a private car, for free.....why?

benefits are abounding when looking at the glass as half full,

my g/f is a staunch negotiator, she always bargains for everything, and what I do is simpy watch her,

occiasionally if I am in a store, or at one of the thousands of night bazaars in the country, I always ask for the "thai price"

some laugh, others smile, some say no, almost all say yes, and no one says no, to her

I always wonder why people cannot see the large grey part in between black and white. Sinsod yes or no. Is there nothing in between? Of course there is. Why not let your grey cells work and come up with a plan that nullifies any greedy desires from a Thai family?

Here a few things to think over:

1. In most countries it is against the law to buy a woman (Law for the protection of women). Tell the family that you respect Thai traditions but you cannot do unlawful things, as you are farang.

2. Show them that you know what sinsod used to be: a financial cushion for the bride, in case her hubby dies or runs away, kind of savings for bad times.

3. In case the groom would live on the family's premises it is usual that he contributes to the living needs of the family, originally by buying a buffalo (can now be translated into a tractor, car or whatever).

4. The blabla about he shows that he can take care of her can be easily wiped away: if he pays the family he has less money to take care of the bride.

5. The big deal that leaves greedy mouths silent: You promise to take care of the woman, you will even get her money for herself, but you do that in monthly/quarterly/annual payments. It means if you pay 10K per month on a fixed account she will have 120K each year she stays with you, in 8 years nearly a million. For the man it is a ncie protection against quick-divorce and lost money, as soon as she leaves, the payments stop.

6. Talk to educated women, friends of your gf, and tell them repeatedly that you will NOT buy a woman, you are too much a gentleman to do so, you want to make your gf happy with a good life, shared together. Joke that you want her to share your life, not your wallet....

It works, we know that Thai families are greedy, surely Isan families, but going back to the original meaning of sinsod, offering to take very good care of their daughter and eventually coming in their direction with a display of money and gold, that will ALL be returned after the wedding.

I live in Isan since 7+ years, was married (no sinsod) but divorced, and I decided (until further notice) to stay single and just have a couple of nice female friends who sometimes stay for breakfast but not for lunch, if you know what I mean. Quite some local women admire my standpoint re sinsod and not buying a woman, they have been suppressed all their lives in favour of their lazy empty-headed brothers, who are considered a personal gift of Buddha.

The main message is: talk to them, understand them but let them also understand you. Their daughter wants to marry a farang, that means that all have also to listen what farang can do and what not, farang also has a tradition, culture, maybe religion, and there is no need to throw that overboard for a greedy Thai family.

Spend your money, but don't throw it away!

1. Why would I pay my wife 1 million if she stay with me 8 years ???

If I have to pay her, she is not a real wife.

2. How fun is it to live with a wife that does not like to stay if she doesn't get a monthly salary??

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You simply don't get the point, not at all.

It's not paying your wife to stay, it is a security for later and on top a good alternative to pay her family.

If you die (and we all do) she would not get a widow pension, at least not in the case of staying in Thailand. So she would be without income.

By supplying a security for her you show that you care.

You could also pay for a life insurance, put your house or condo on her name, whatever.

The meaning of my post is that you, instead of supplying money to the greedy family (which is lost money, for you and for your wife), you use the money for security in the event that you pass away.

That is actually, kind of a touchy subject:

my soon to be ex wife, used to always tell me that the money she came into the marriage with $20,000 that was used on a custody battle that she lost, (she blamed me) not her past which was displayed in the court for her,

and one day, it was suggested to me, by a psychologist that, when asked why she didn't leave me, her answer was, because she didnt have any money, (not, because she loved me), so, I was advised to give her the money.

Within weeks, she started telling me, that was only a start, and that I should consider helping her build a "safety net" she liked to call it, not to go to work mind you, to build it herself,

I told her, I wanted to see how she utilized the first 20k, which, a few months later, she spent on moving her things to storage, and hiring a lawyer.

Sin Sot suddenly seems very very cheap to the white man

Well, when I'm with someone that I care about,I want to find out what they like what makes them tick etc

And I would expect the same,

Have been told that Thai girls generally don't really care what you like, don't like, hobbies, what preferences you have etc etc

One night, while still living in a condo, I mentioned to her that I was going to play with another guitar player at a restaurant and when she said she was going to hang out with her friends, initially, I thought, she "should have" said, ok, I will see you there,

now, who was being selfish, me for wanting her to watch, and perhaps be bored, or her, using it as a great nite to see her best friends?

at the time, I didnt like it, because, I wanted to be with her that night, and every night,

but in retrospect, it was smart of her,

now, we live together so those opportunities are less available to her, as, she isnt intereted in drinking and driving, and now she is in a relationship and needs the comraderie and their alcoholism, a lot less.

we both gain,

and, I will never know what she, or anyone else "really thinks"

no one ever does,

last night I said to her after she took a few pictures that I was reviewing, that I didnt like that I looked so old because my hair is very grey,

she stated without skipping a breath,

"why would you care, you have a young girlfriend"

that put it all in perspective for me, right there, which by the way.

does anyone know where I can buy a Wahl or ConAir hair clipper, or, a way for my to find who sells a converter that will allow my US buzzer to operate?

do they even sell those here?

Well, when I'm with someone that I care about,I want to find out what they like what makes them tick etc

And I would expect the same,

Have been told that Thai girls generally don't really care what you like, don't like, hobbies, what preferences you have etc etc

I question that too...

I am a guitar player,

my girlfriend wants me to practice as much as I like, but prefers I do it in the spare bedroom, which is fine, when she is awake,

when she goes to sleep, I usually come back down and play for a while...

when we have been in hotel rooms whilel traveling, she has watched me play, and applauded at times,

I think they just have more respect for our personal interests, and allow us to have them'whereas my western wife gave me a hard time every time I went to play golf, as, because as i was approaching 80 on the course, I started playing more, to get there, and I did.

selfishness is open to interpretation.

this girl asks me for nothing, but reminds me of any and all promises I make,

that is neither manuevering or manipulation, unless, I was manuevered into it beforehand, in which case, I will start drinking less!

I guess it all depends on how they define "selfish?"

Looking after thier own best interests, cannot be considered selfish,

They are at least as weary of us, as we are of them, and with good reason,

We need to be mindful of what we are doing, for the very same reasons.

No one wants to get taken, and for girls, they are the receivers of far more lying and cheating and mistreatment, than we are,

so, let's all remember,

its hard for a man to be "taken" without his permission

lastly,

girls, by their design, are the weaker sex physically, but by far, the stronger sex, emotionally,

because of their size disparity, they have to become better manuever-ers, which is not the same as manipulators,

nice girls manuever,

bad girls manuever too, but, they are more obvious........

I like the bad girls, always have,

but only the one's who admit it

This greediness is farang's fault, they have taken this sinsod supposed traditional too serious at the begining they were so happy to see the smiles of the in-laws and now this is falling on others head. Never start something that you cannot stop.

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I must be one of the "luckier" ones

Her mother, did not smile at me, and,

didn't even say goodbye as she exited the car from the dinner I paid for, but didn't eat because it was horrible

I am also, older than the mother, but not the father,

They know not to expect anything from me, and the rest of the family doesn't even know we are "involved"

Sounds almost too perfect for what everyone else reports here

I guess I have it better than I realized,

Thai Visa saves the day, again!

I don't think so. Yes you have your , but you don't know what is really being thought about you. BUT, if your OK with your set up, thats cool.......

The set up is perfect.

What would be considered average spending in the US, is considered generous here....and still she is ashamed to order the sirloin in favor of the lesser cut

I pay for everything, as I did for my ladt two "actual" wives,

The difference here, is all attitude, her's is excellent, positive and grateful to not be sitting on a dias with 30 other girls with a number on her blouse

I am good, with all of it

I would be interested to know if the op scarpolo is american,as to them how much is so important,how much do you make at work,how much this ,how much that,in the Uk /australia we consider this very vulgar and it is rarely if ever a subject to be discussed.

Yes, I am American,

I have also sat in bars in Beverly Hills, where farm girls, ie., Kansas, Kentucky, Iowa, all gorgeous blondes, would within minutes, as a man, what his net worth was.

This is straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.

yes, they were gorgeous, and very interested in money; only