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Exactly . I reckon in NZ they would not be able to rent a motor bike without a licence but in Thailand it seems you can do . Apologies , my grammar was confusing . I should have proof read it but a good spot by you .

Agree and cannot judge this event when there is just the one video , all in favour of the cop . Will the court case be a public hearing ? because the 2 NZ guys must be heard for their reasons to tackle the cop . Phuket is full of tourists . Many hire motor bikes . Thai law says that the renter must hold a licence . The licence is rarely asked for by the proprietor . Cops know this and the motor bike tourists are easy targets for fines . All part of the corruption chain . Easy money for the cops . Most Western tourists come to Thailand and assume that the laws in Thailand will be similar to those of their home country but that could not be further from the truth . There should be a health warning for tourists planning to visit Thailand . The Thai government have to answer why their laws are not enforced and the motor bike proprietor should be fined for renting a bike without viewing or asking for the renters license .

That is my take too

Wizz web home page . Even with my VPN turned off my access is denied . Strange but I can talk to them via email but not on their live chat .

Hearing probably not in a public court ?

Problem solved . All down to 3BB and their intermittent internet feed . Today a OOkla speed test on wifi showed 212 down & 210 up . Thanks to all who tried to help me . This morning 3BBtold me they were having problems . Full speed internet within 1 hour , good for 4 hours then off again for 1 hour , now on again and all programmes working

We have no video of what led up to the scuffle . However if the cop had been holding the gun and threatening to shoot them what do you expect ? Conjecture ? maybe but I would like to hear the full story . All ways two sides to a story but the NZs guys account will no doubt be ignored . What we do know is that the two NZ guys did not stop when told to and one had no licence but does that warrant a shooting ? More to this event than has been disclosed .

The renting company should be dragged into this because they also acted illegally .

I agree with your sentiments . The NZs actions of wrestling the cop must have been provoked . Let's face it , the Thai cops are not at a level to that of UK cops or indeed most European cops . Why would you tackle a Thai cop over a traffic offences ? A fine and deportation is there best hope

Not stopping for police and no licence and then being pursued by police is looking bad for the NZs . However I would like to see the final police confrontation which if has the cop pointing a loaded gun at the NZs , the altercation was caused by over the top means . I am supposing that the NZ was riding a rented motor bike ? How is that possible without a license ?

And what about the guys ?

I have the opinion that this could well be the case

Did she pay you back in kind in the bed ?

Where is that evidence shown ? Just watched the video again but could not hear the NZs talking .

My thoughts too but who the cops or NZs ? If the cops , well I can understand the resistance

No proof that the 2 NZ guys were guilty from the shown videos but knowing the way things work in Thailand , I would have paid the fine and been on my way . Even if Innocent . Life is cheap here in Thailand .

I believe there were other cops turning up , so no escape , if that was ever on their minds .

If a loaded cocked gun was held to your head , what would you do ? I agree not to argue with the Thai cops , pay the money and go but all the circumstances are not known in this case , only the wrestling at the end with the Thai cop losing the loaded gun . The entire event needs to be shown on their cop video but if not available then its their words against the cops and there is only one outcome .

Sensible opinion , given the way of life in Thailand . I am of the same opinion .

I 100% agree with your view . However here in Thailand these 2 probably innocent guys will be found guilty . As in my earlier post , where is the cop video prior to the stopping of the 2 farangs and the start of the resistance . Highway robbery has to be considered .

Router has no VPN details . Rebooted and VPN switched off before reboot . Same result , " Access Denied " please turn off your VPN

I would like to view the entire cop camera video from before the arrest and the start of the resistance . Thai traffic cops are known to extort money from innocent falangs . With a gun to your head and a cocked trigger , I would not be surprised at resistance

Wizz TV says access denied because I am using a VPN but it is turned off . Can they still detect that the VPN is installed ? rather puzzling

BTW , the headline said Two New Zealand men arrested for brutal assault on Thai cop , That is BS , they were wrestling for the gun because they were scared for their lives .

Thanks but 1 of the IPTV providers (Wizz TV ) say that their app has its own built in VPN . I do have Surfshark which I only use on my laptop .