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5 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

Because the vaccines were specifically made  to cause the body to defend agaisnt the Covid virus  AND their variants. That's why the vaccine works against the delta variant  as well as the original strain. Not quite as effective but still protects against all the variants so far.

Firstly when the vaccines where made they did not know about the variants, yes they knew it could/would mutate but not how it would mutate  so they can't have been

"specifically made  to cause the body to defend agaisnt the Covid virus  AND their variants"  ( well unless they did know how it would mutate but that would be a whole another story  )

Also  ( except for the Chinese one) as far as I understand the MRNA  vaccines  mimic only a small part of the real virus for the body to prepare defences to.

( only to that small portion)

but when the body encounters the real virus  it can  recognise that small part and all the other parts that constitute the whole virus and prepare multiple defences for next time it encounters the virus..while at the same time actively fighting the virus...yes it's good for the body to have a "heads up"  and a vaccine can give that "heads up"  unless/until the virus mutates in the small specific area that the vaccines where made to mimic...then it's time for another jab and/or newer vaccine.

3 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

A recent study found that 36% of COVID-19 cases didn't result in development of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies.

If those cases didn't develop antibodies to the real thing  then why would they develop antibodies to the  the vaccine ?

3 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Also, scientifically it's not at all clear that a previous infection confers immunity. It depends on a number of different factors, including the severity of the illness you experienced.

 

As the article below states:

Here is a very interesting study

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w?fbclid=IwAR0-RMOGRpCv6f6PLAxTjnw8-hNCLqmilbUFxMi2iSZEAefZem4PVBD_mK4

"

The citywide nucleic acid screening of SARS-CoV-2 infection in Wuhan recruited nearly 10 million people, and found no newly confirmed cases with COVID-19. The detection rate of asymptomatic positive cases was very low, and there was no evidence of transmission from asymptomatic positive persons to traced close contacts. There were no asymptomatic positive cases in 96.4% of the residential communities.

Previous studies have shown that asymptomatic individuals infected with SARS-CoV-2 virus were infectious³, and might subsequently become symptomatic⁴. Compared with symptomatic patients, asymptomatic infected persons generally have low quantity of viral loads and a short duration of viral shedding, which decrease the transmission risk of SARS-CoV-2⁵. In the present study, virus culture was carried out on samples from asymptomatic positive cases, and found no viable SARS-CoV-2 virus. All close contacts of the asymptomatic positive cases tested negative, indicating that the asymptomatic positive cases detected in this study were unlikely to be infectious.

There was a low repositive rate in recovered COVID-19 patients in Wuhan. Results of virus culturing and contract tracing found no evidence that repositive cases in recovered COVID-19 patients were infectious, which is consistent with evidence from other sources. A study in Korea found no confirmed COVID-19 cases by monitoring 790 contacts of 285 repositive cases⁶. The official surveillance of recovered COVID-19 patients in China also revealed no evidence on the infectiousness of repositive cases⁷. "

Last time

This time (what's going on ????? )

19 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

does this mean a booze ban?

Yes from 6PM this evening   just confirmed at my local BigC     so you have about  one minute untill 2 pm   and then  from 5pm to 6pm this evening to stock up !!!!

Absolutely no vans or posters in my area (Jomtien Chonburi)   usually they are out in full force  I better go buy some booze before the ban kicks in ????

11 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

Just an update.  I bought the water heater / pump that I described in detail. 

Which one was it that you finally bought ?

1 hour ago, mahtin said:

Stop refining it and the problem is solved.

How will they lockdown the oceans  ?

2 hours ago, superal said:

Property prices will soar in the next few years in Pattaya's new Riviera  .

I'm not upto date on the latest terminology  but if CBT is  a "provisional" licence ie:  you use L plates  then I think technically you  can't rent a bike...however T.I.T  so the person renting you the bike  will most likely not care if you have a licence or not   and  plod will except a UK licence as long as it has a picture of a bike on it...the problems will come if you are involved in an accident..so as they say  "up to you"  if you want to take the risk..depending where you ride in Thailand the risk can be low  (out in the countryside)  or quite high Bangkok,Pattaya,Chaingmai,Phuket .

Just now, rott said:

Very likely but my point was that it has been picking up for a few weeks. 

Well last weekend there was  the jetski event in Jomtien and the weekends before that was the Music festival   but yes  since the beaches where opened again there has been a revival in the  Bangkokians  clogging up the roads and parking spaces.

4 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

After all, Switzerland still has good chocolate and nice mountains.  ????

What about the cuckoo clocks and cheese ? ????

1 minute ago, rott said:

walking to my recently reopened Beach Rd venue I passed at least 3 new openings and the place is awash with people and traffic. 

Maybe something to do with the Fireworks display this weekend ?

On 11/26/2021 at 10:26 AM, hotandsticky said:

You do understand, don't you, that this is only YOUR version of reality?

It's close to my take on things too  so @paul1804  is not quite alone.

Did you see this interesting report/study from Wuhan ?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w?fbclid=IwAR0-RMOGRpCv6f6PLAxTjnw8-hNCLqmilbUFxMi2iSZEAefZem4PVBD_mK4

"The citywide nucleic acid screening of SARS-CoV-2 infection in Wuhan recruited nearly 10 million people, and found no newly confirmed cases with COVID-19. The detection rate of asymptomatic positive cases was very low, and there was no evidence of transmission from asymptomatic positive persons to traced close contacts. There were no asymptomatic positive cases in 96.4% of the residential communities.

Previous studies have shown that asymptomatic individuals infected with SARS-CoV-2 virus were infectious³, and might subsequently become symptomatic⁴. Compared with symptomatic patients, asymptomatic infected persons generally have low quantity of viral loads and a short duration of viral shedding, which decrease the transmission risk of SARS-CoV-2⁵.

I only had  a couple of dealings with tempered glass in the UK,  at a local glassier

they cut "bog standard"  3mm glass to size and diamond drilled a 25mm hole in it

I tried it in the place it was going to slide into  (make sure it fits first)  then he told me to come back in a couple of days  because they had to  heat treat it in their oven

( I think they dip it in salt water too)  anyway  there where no markings on the glass indicating it was "tempered"   but I have seen markings on consumer products from IKEA and such.

I can't say I have ever read or heard a story in Thailand of any sort of "tempered" glass crackdowns,inspections,regulation,prosecutions or anything !

If you don't like the markings then tell the supplier you dont want them  and as @Gsxrnz  said already  T.I.T  "up to you"

9 minutes ago, japanese said:

Do regulations here require the glass to have the manufacturer logo?

This is furniture for your own home ?  I highly doubt there are any regulations and if so who would enforce them ?

I'm glad you are using tempered glass  the amount of extremely dangerous  broken coffee table tops ( not tempered huge shards of dagger glass)

I've seen dumped by the rubbish bins is pretty horrific.

Can you let us know  where you are buying your glass from,location and cost would be great too.

3 minutes ago, bbko said:

there's no mention of joint vs single bank account and no mention of the photos needing to be one photo per each 8x11/A4 sheet of paper.  So a word of warning for those wishing to apply for a family visa through the Pattaya IO, their own checklist does not give out complete information.

The joint account has been a thing for  as long as I know..but the photos are a new one on me..last time I handed her  a stack of  printed at the photo shop photos and said  you choose I'm not sure which ones you would like..she chose 4 and told me to stick them on 2  A4 sheets of paper and then go make copies at the machine, there is one near the entrance but that had a long queue so I went outside to the shop right there in the car park to make the copies..I did notice that there was a new I/O at the desk 6 last time I was in there for 90 day report...and just as I thought it was safe I saw the "old/usual"  I/O  walk down from the upstairs department  

@ExpatOilWorker

Haha I saw the "no bra" girl on TV news yesterday..unfortunately the TV camera had a fault and the no bra area was extremely blurry   so thanks for the clear picture ????

8 minutes ago, sametdo said:

What's the situation in the hotels/accommodation?  Do you have to wear a mask when sat/lying by the pool? In the pool?

 

Are masks required on the beach? when swimming?

Technically yes,  maybe the "Gestapo" will catch you maybe they won't   most likely they would just tell you to put a mask on but it's possible there could be much worse consequences...just something to think about.

P.S lots almost all  pubs,bars,discos,clubs etc are closed and restaurants

(except in few special areas) cannot serve alcohol..also at music festivals  you are not allowed to dance (covid risk) ????