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1 minute ago, JeffersLos said:
Nothing, it's always been this way.
Just with less cameras, internet, and social media to highlight it. ????
And yet they can make such a song and dance about a British woman being photographed on a wall by a temple in Chiang Mai properly dressed but totally ignore this story in the main news.
Incredible.
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I usually read the Cambodian news as I am a regular visitor there and have spent extended time in Siem Reap. It was extremely disturbing yesterday to read and see a video of a Thai man aged 22 years old go to a petrol station on a motorbike with his fathers revolver. His father is a Thai policeman, and he allegedly stole it from the house.
He shot a Cambodian gas station worker, aged 30 years old, who was slumbering on a desk next to the pumps, whilst business was slow.
The Cambodian worker was doing the graveyard shift in Korat,He murdered the man and stole the sum of 3,000 baht from the man's bag which was for customers change, because he ' had a gambling habit '
The video shows he sat behind him for a while before cold bloodedly shooting him through the head.
What is this country coming to??
https://cnewtf/2019/07/29/cambodian-gas-station-worker-shot-in-thailand/
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12 hours ago, Genmai said:
I wonder what Buddha would have said about the people with their panties in a twist over a beautiful photo?
Oh, I forgot - the prevalent religion here is a total perversion of the principal teachings of Buddha and is such a far cry from the original guidance that it shouldn't even bear his name. He even specifically told people not to build temples and to just walk the path instead. Now """monks""" deal dope, rape kids, get in fights on public transport, get drunk at parties and storm schools to molest underage students and punch teachers during exams, and basically sit around getting fat all day playing on their phone. Every time I go to Central I can spot at least one waddling about looking for a new phone. Meanwhile they get subsidized by overcharged dopey farangs on some enlightenment trip and Thais who think throwing a bit of money about will absolve them of any repercussions from stupid behavior. How is anyone with a brain supposed to respect any of this?
Ask any Thai what their "training" consists of and you realize there is 0 incentive or enforcement in their "practice". If you want to see real Buddhism in this supposedly Buddhist country you have to go to a Vipassana meditation center.
One of the few good things about the wats is free parking. I pay my taxes so feel freely entitled to use their parking and toilets. The other good thing is photoshoot locations. I sincerely hope the Brit doesn't cave in to this hypocritical hoity toity holier-than-thou BS we see so much from Thai people.
Best post I have read on Thais and Buddhism!
Absolutely spot on!
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1 hour ago, randy723 said:
If America can let over 12 million illegal stay in Amsrica then the UK who also has many illegals in its country, surely they can let one honest lady stay and take care of her husband if not then Thailand should kick all the people from the UK out of Thailand
Oh well said,
Did you sit up all night thinking of that Gem of an idea?
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23 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:
I think the bigger part is what people define as a bad situation.
I.e. I don't care about the TM forms which have to be filled out from time to time. For me it's a little work and no problem. But some people here make a huge problem out of it. And then they complain about that huge problem.
90% is in our own mind how many problems we want to have.
I think you are missing some important points. I try to run my life efficiently and within the system and the law. There are many here that are similar to me in this way.
You are also oversimplifying the TM forms. The frustration arrives is because a lot of us do not know where we stand at all after years of obeying the rules they continuously invent more not fit for purpose and the means by following them as in online reporting, are not working.
The latest one is TM30, with all offices making contradictory statemen5ts and each one differing in their interpretation of the said form. Since renewing retirement extension, we were told to register online, we did it...TWICE! over 2.5 months ago. We rang the helpline, nobody picks up. We rang our Immigration office, ' I will call you back ' He never did. We rang again, ' I am very busy ' was the response.
So this is not a case of sitting at home whinging about a system. It's a case of now being provided with the tools to do what they require as in a username and password and not knowing which ' rule ' our local immigration have decided they are going to follow with the TM30.
We leave next week for the UK, good because I need a break from here. On return we will head within the 24 hours to our immigration office and try to report and get a bloody username and password.
Nothing wrong with my mind, and I don't mind doing the work, give me the bloody tools to accomplish it. It is frustrating.
Footnote: And none of this reduces criminality because criminals don't file TM28 or TM30, they don't report every 90 days, Many don't even have passports and others haven't even come through the front door to enter the Kingdom, so their lives remain unaffected and they continue without stress as normal. It is the law abiding that this nonsense affects.
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15 minutes ago, Stanaris said:
In my opinion they knew that he needed Dialysis and that is the reason for the visit this time because it is free here. Stage 5 CKD does not suddenly appear, I have stage 4 and have known for 3 years and have regular check ups.
What I think they should have done is apply for Discretionary Leave to Remain which is often granted in similar circumstances.
You are right. They could have also had an appointment in the UK and explained their circumstances to an Immigration lawyer.
Once furnishing the lawyer with the correct documentation, the lady would have been given leave to stay and it would have been kicked around the system for two or three years, whilst they sorted their affairs out. It isn't even overly time consuming to do this.
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8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:I think perhaps a few decades from now, they will have tourism classes at university, where they will discuss how Thailand lost the golden egg of Western tourism. They will escort students through abandoned hotels, and tell them these places used to have an occupancy rate of 70%! Now, we are converting them into schools. Those tourists, unlike most Chinese tourists, spent anywhere from $100 a day, to over $2,000 a day. They brought real money into the country, and in exchange, were treated with utter and complete disregard, scammed, disrespected, and abused. Eventually, most said no more.
Thailand thought the country was something very special, that it was the center of the universe, that a kind of magic emanated from the sacred land, and that nobody would ever say no, or find alternative places to visit. Once they came, why would they ever go anywhere else? The nation was perfection, no? How do you improve on perfection?
The fact is that there are countless other spots, many in this region, that offer better service, more expertise in food and beverage (especially wine service and selection at fair prices, which rich tourists demand), reasonable import duties to sustain a luxury goods market (which in turn sustains and encourages a wealthier tourism market - DUH!) better training, and far better english skills. Thailand simply lost sight of the big picture, and had zero vision, with regard to big spending tourists, who need to be catered to, offered quality, public safety, real law enforcement, smart policy, effective immigration services, and responsiveness, instead of scorn, surliness, and denial.
Add on the big expat and regular visitor such as the offshore workers problems with TM30 nonsense, 90 day reports, 37 baht to the GBP, and many other western currencies affected as well, horrendous airport immigration problems, new 800,000 baht rules before and after, the latest idea that 65,000 baht may not be legally acceptable soon, forced insurance, and you have the makings of a perfect storm.
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9 hours ago, mike787 said:I learned early on coming here. Avoid, keep exposure minimal, and don't argue with Thais. The consequences are lethal
And you think that is the way forward for tourists visiting? To be afraid of their own shadow when they see wrongdoing? It's more about the Thai authorities taking control of their country and stop taking backhanders and handing out silly fines for thugs who intimidate tourists, and take law and order seriously.
11 hours ago, Kenneth OSHEA said:Hope they stay away from Koh Chang????
Koh Chang is in the national park and patrolled by the military and Navy. I think this is one area safe from the Jet ski mafias. I hope so anyway, I like it down there.
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And so it goes on and on and on,
They only thing all these TM30 threads have achieved is to prove the the Immigration offices are consistently inconsistent.
Those petitioning can forget the TM30 being revoked, it can't be, because it is used by all the hotels and guesthouses as a means of monitoring guests to the country.
The very best they can hope for is a clear directive from the top of how it is to be applied by ALL IMMIGRATION OFFICES across the country.
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1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Or that for accomplishing any given task at Immigration, there are probably a dozen or more different procedures/documents required among all the various different offices, with many setting their own local rules/requirements that don't match with what others are doing elsewhere.
It's getting to the point where it's pretty hard to actually hand out any accurate Immigration advice here, because it's always with the caveat... "but that rule/requirement/documents may well be handled/enforced entirely differently at your local Immigration office."
I actually did all my documents perfectly and triple checked them before going to Immigration for my yearly retirement. The documents were crisp, clean and in good order.
They nearly totally re did them all on scruffy pieces of poorly copied papers and just said to me sign! No way was I getting ' into it with them ' as I purely wanted what I went for and so just played along and got what I wanted.
You are spot on though, the orders come down from the top, it then seems to be up to the interpretation of the individual boss of each immigration office how these are enforced.
Interesting and completely off topic is this now, but this type of ' left hand not knowing what the right is doing ' is exactly what was said during the days of Pol Pot and the crisis of events between 1975-79 and how the genocide started.
They said that orders were issued by highly educated people at the top of the regime. It was then passed through different hands and to people of different educational backgrounds right down to those enforcing the rules, laws and regulations.
They say by the time it reached those in the field as in the Khmer Rouge soldiers or footmen, most of whom had no education at all, it had no resemblance to what was initially ordered, hence the genocide. By the time it had got back to the top, it was all underway and too late to stop the speeding train.
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2 hours ago, Dcheech said:
Good job Mr Biggs. Suck it up, get humble and do some Public Relations, 'shill' work for Immigration. That has to help with your VISA status. And no more of those unscripted outbursts ok. Heh.
Well said.
2 hours ago, Orton Rd said:More like a grovelling back tracker than having any 'power'. That TM30 petition will probably never even get an answer.
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Absolutely, but we knew this would happen.
2 hours ago, champers said:Interesting to see TV copyright an article they have cut and pasted from yesterday's Bangkok Post. How does that work?
Shame that Andrew Biggs didn't cover TM30s or 90 day reporting during his meeting with Immigration. I suspect the meeting was more a case of attitude adjustment for him after describing Thailand as Hell.
Andrew Biggs is on eggshells, he has not done the required amount of kissing ass as yet.
No chance he is going to further rock the boat and mention either TM30 or 90 day reports and don't even mention that phones go unanswered, or their website sucks and isn't working!
Next time he is in the queue, he can eat some of that humble pie stored in his hand luggage, while he is awaiting admittance to the Kingdom.
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As a regular in Cambodia I can say my other half would NOT move there. Been there, seen the temples, done it. Also, food choices as well as the selections of fruit and veg is not popular with her.
Doesn't mind the Cambodians but thinks they are a bit ' sneaky ' which is pretty ' rich ' coming from her!
Laos of course, a different story but wouldn't leave her mother anyway. Fits in well with them all.
Going to the UK next week, which she enjoys, especially the shopping and Thai people in our city, but is always happy to come back after three weeks to mother, the dogs and the farm.
Me, I like Cambodia by myself for maximum five days then I want back to Thailand. The expat scene there is very ' eclectic ' and I have friends living and working there.
On a footnote, I do know somebody who has done this.
They run the Crocodile Bistro in Siem Reap and the gentleman I believe is Belgian, his name is Werner, with a Thai wife-who does the cooking of Thai food but oversees Cambodian cooks as well.
They have a successful business, or it was last time I was in. It is on the river but slightly out of town.
From what I have seen on Facebook and speaking to them directly, they seem reasonably happy.
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17 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:
She has a doctorate in physics.
The title of Angela Merkel's dissertation was: "Investigation of the mechanism of decay reactions with simple bond breaking and calculation of their rate constants on the basis of quantum chemical and statistical methods". In her doctoral thesis, Merkel examined the influence of spatial correlation in bimolecular elementary reactions in dense media and received the rating "very good". With her doctor thesis, Merkel contributed to research in the field of statistical and physical chemistry at the Central Institute for Isotope and Radiation Research.
Pleased to hear that she has such a Doctorate because she didn't get one based on common sense in the real world.
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Why would you transfer 117,000 baht to clear customs for an i phone and unspecified USD?
One would think the clown would do his due diligence and relevant checks.
It sounds like a gay scam by the reporting of it, no females are mentioned.
It's greed that wins every time with these people who lose their shirt! Must be plenty of idiots if they have amassed 10 million baht.
Amazingly, Nigerians involved....yet again!
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30 minutes ago, apophyss said:
Why priority isn't for arrest terrorist (in south to) ?
Because more hard ?
Because that would be REAL policing and REAL work for the Army, not soft targets like illegals and migrant workers. If they were out tracking terrorists they wouldn't have all this time for all these press conferences which achieve nothing except feed their over inflated egos.
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1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:
OK, so I am a pretty daft person, but a portable biometric scanner would do the job if Thailand insisted all passports had to be biometric
Thailand,.m like and other state, cannot impose its wishes on other countries.
What you are saying could have been said by Malaysia to Thailand 14 years ago, when they were the only ones to have biometric passports in the region. It has taken Thailand long enough to get the systems.
What about countries that simply don't want or are not in a position to afford biometric systems. Do all their nationals have to be penalized as a result?
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2 hours ago, Chivas said:
Wrong.....there you are I've made it simple for you. Domestic lol
OK, I will leave it at that but you have offered no proof to back up your theory.
I don't believe it is legally possible or ethical for the UK to give Thailand details of a persons domestic criminal record in the UK.Nope, I have no worries about it personally and it does not affect me whatsoever. I think it infringes human rights and civil liberties.
Also, who decides the criteria as to what is a serious charge and what is not. I mean you can get flogged and jailed in Saudi for drinking beer, you can get a long prison sentence in Thailand for certain offenses that you would get a caution or a fine in the UK, or nothing at all. And herein lies the problem with different countries rules, laws and regulations! What is serious crime in one country is not in another.
At the end of the day 99.9% of visitors are here fore genuine tourist or business reasons and must be respected and treated as such.
Some countries have, and rightly so, discussed ways of stopping sex offenders traveling. The USA floated the idea of putting something in their passport identifying them, and Australia I believe and the UK have floated not allowing them to travel at all and refusing to give them passports. But these things have been instigated in their country of origin by their own governments.
Just to make myself clear, I am all for security checks at airports, I am happy Boris Johnson, the new PM in the U.K., in the UK is allowing the police more powers with stop and search, I do not want to live in a police state, but if these powers at airports and in country keep us safe from spiraling knife crime, all well and good.
However, I don't like the state giving themselves these powers for the sake of it. They try to call Thailand ' Land of the Free ' I don't think it is free at all. I think the police, Army and government have far too much power and go about their business completely without checks and balances.
Without veering too much off course, it is our own governments policies that have made the world unsafe.
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3 hours ago, Chivas said:
I didnt say "wanted" whatsoever.....there is a massive difference between being on a "watch list" as opposed to having crimininal record and having your fingerprints on a database.....Concerned perhaps are you lol
I have zero doubt that the finger printing will kick in live pre Christmas another natural step with the Thais wanting to bring in quality tourists only
Expect an announcement October/November 2019 because airlines have to be forewarned as well
Yes, but I am unsure as what you are saying it is going to do?
As I said previously, it is live already and will now be forming a loading a database on an hourly basis as people arrive and depart the country.
A ' watch list ' is usually those suspected of criminal activity although not proven or convicted. A persons domestic convictions in their own country is none of Thailand's business.
No western country is going to stick their neck out and give Thailand too much information as it would involve International laws, Human rights and privacy issues, unless they are suspected terrorists.
Thailand is in cuckoo land with their dreams about ' quality tourists ' because it just isn't of the five star standard it purports itself to be.
Thailand will never compare with the likes of Monte Carlo, Saint Moritz, Saint Tropez, Norwegian countries, Italian Riviera, and many such places.
It just can't compete with its military government, filthy beaches, highly publicized and unsolved rapes and murders, public unrest with yellow and red shirts closing down airport, dual pricing, prostitution and so forth.
The beaches of Europe blow Thailand's away in cleanliness, air quality and now prices these days!
Thailand needs to get a grip of itself and it is getting carried away turning people away at airports for the flimsiest of reasons, or one day you go to work and the plane arrivals just will not be there in great numbers.
Having said all that, I think Thailand has now reached its peak and the only was is down, unless they adopt more tourist friendly policies and spend big on infrastructure.
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On 7/25/2019 at 2:32 PM, Chivas said:
Just another perfect example of Thai immigration degrading the experience for intended longer stayers.
Its all completely deliberate. 30 day maximim no sweat spend our dosh and get out. Wait until the finger printing database goes "live" with foreign Police databases and watch the denials soar and pax sent back
I am confused by your post. What are you meaning about database ' going live ' ?
I have been reading up on this and to my knowledge the database is ' live ' albeit at the moment it is gathering fingerprints and facial recognition into its database via its biometrics system. Previously, it did not have this technology.
What it did have was the advance passenger lists from airlines in the countries of departure. It also had and still has records from Interpol of red notices, stop notices and persons of interests from other governments.
The biometrics system picks up and identifies those traveling on false and fake passports as well as those whose identity page differs to that stored in the chip including the face/photo.
Now having a system to collect fingerprints and in effect ' link ' that information to the passport holders chip and facial recognition to the chip photo, this will stop those who seek to ' cheat the system ' and are blacklisted from returning to their countries of origin and getting new passports under a different name and gaining access to the country.
What else are you expecting it to do? I should imagine it is already connected to other countries criminal databases for people who are wanted.
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Thais are the only people I know that get scammed due to their own uncontrollable greed and manage to try and turn it into themselves being the victims.
They actually believe they deserve sympathy. I class it as they are getting a taste of their own medicine from ' Hansum man '
Any other people in the world, largely, would be too embarrassed to admit they had been taken in by it, let alone report it so they can be laughed at by all and sundry.
In recent months, a friend of my other half, came to the house. She had befriended somebody online and he had fallen in love with her and wanted to send her Gucci bags, 20 baht worth of Gold, perfumes, and a host of luxuries etc. She was so excited and is married to a mid level policeman. This woman is not a silly teenager, she is mid 40s, with her own business.
The only thing she had to do was send the money, 20,000 baht, to get it released from customs.
This brought up two flashing warning lights.
1. She was trying to rope me in as to how she should go about getting all this new found wealth.
2. She didn't want her husband to know.
She did not believe me that it was a SCAM.
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23 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said:
The choke hold was less painful than reading that.
Yeah,
He seems right up his own ass! I wanted to puke. I bet he's great fun on a night out flexing and telling all about his martial arts skills!
He then puts it up on social media, what a pillock!
Also, we don't need him telling us what happens if you don't behave in Thailand, he is a foreigner the same as we are.
The thief wasn't a foreigner at all , but a Thai. so why the nonsensical rant about behaving when one comes to Thailand?
Tell the bloody natives because they didn't get the memo.
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We, like many others, have waited nearly 2 months for password and username. We have applied twice for it. I have just got new retirement extension and I am leaving the country in less than two weeks heading for UK.
I think we will just wait until We return then head to Kalasin then to report with a TM30, within 24 hours then.
We cannot get them to pick up on the helpline and when we contact the officer in Kalasin, he keeps saying he is too busy too deal with it and call back later.
It makes you think are we deliberately being sidestepped and given confusing answers, judging by all the different interpretations from differing immigration offices I read on here, so than can just hit us with a fine?
Forgive my cynicism, but it looks like they have found a way, temporarily at least, to generate between 1600 and 2000 baht a foreigner for as long as they can keep this confusion up.
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1 hour ago, peterb17 said:
No it does not give you fast track anymore- the rules have changed ( due to selling fast track passes scam)
If you arrange the meet and greet service you MUST be traveling business to get fast track.
Nope,
I have just done it. Well, booked, paid and got confirmation
. 2100 baht for meet and greet and taxi from Swampy to Don Muang.
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22 minutes ago, Docno said:Agree that "scum" is too strong a word and is uncalled for. But I also suspect that many of the people here who defend overstayers don't extend that generosity (or benefit of the doubt) to overstayers from Africa, China, etc. And I'm sure some rail against illegal immigrants in their own countries (how about that wall along the Rio Grande?).
And yes, you can say that over-staying farangs here don't expect hand-outs, but they are "consuming" government expenditures on infrastructure (roads, schools, etc). So unless you believe in "no borders" and open migration (as some on the far left do), you must agree that a nation has the right to enforce its immigration laws and that individuals should respect those laws.
BTW - I hope you sort things out with your stay … sounds like a tough situation
Nobody here saying they don't have the right to enforce their immigration laws, and by hell don't they like to tell us about it.
Regards your comments on overstaying Africans. You are aware there is limited sympathy from the Thai police, who by nature, are racist themselves. Mind you, Black Africans are over represented in drug crimes in Thailand, as well as marriage scams, Ponzi schemes, etc, fake passports,
Also, the biggest single group of Aliens in the Thai prisons are Black Africans usually from Nigeria, and certainly not in there for overstay, by and large.
You are stretching it quite a bit saying he is consuming resources by what? using a road? come off it! what a weak argument.
Clutching at straws springs to mind.
You mention using schools? Are these really the best examples you can come up with before we take him out in the square and crucify him?
I am taking a ' stab in the dark here ' but I think is is above the age of going to school.
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TM30 Online Android Application User Name & Password
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
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2.5 months waiting already and I logged on today and it says ' Waiting for approval ' and still no username or password.
And Still nobody picks up the dedicated phone from the website.
No joy or advice from the Immigration office as to what we are supposed to do to report other than take the 3 hour round trip to Kalasin every time we venture anywhere.
Leaving for the U.K. this coming week but will complete a TM30 and take it to Kalasin personally on our return at the end of the month. What else is there to do.
Pathetic state of affairs.