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Always shied away from that option, not for any holier than thou reasons, mainly because I worry about it coming home to roost. The Immigration officers would be moved for a week to inactive posts, but the unfortunate retiree would be left in a world of $hit

But there was this:- The same hadith is also quoted by Ibn Kathir (died 1373 CE ) in his Koranic commentary (Tafsir) of Surah Al-Rahman (55), verse 72: "The Prophet Muhammad was heard saying: 'The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with The number of 72 virgins in paradise is not mentioned in the Quran, but is instead found in Islamic Traditions. These traditions include the Hadith, which are sayings and actions attributed to the Prophet, and the Book of Sunan, which describes the features of paradise Just pointing this out, personally I believe it as much as I believe in the Archangel Gabriel, Noah's Ark and all the rest of the junk.

I can't see them asking tax returns as not their domain, and from what I can gather the 500K shown, is there to prove you can support yourself, but unlike the 800K method of retirees and ensuring 400K is left in at all times, there is no mention of this money being left in the bank all the time. Besides, you can have the money in another country and currency!!! Even the 800K method is stupid, the two months before and three months after leaving funds untouched was, they reckoned, designed to stop agents putting up the money to obtain extensions then pulling it out again. However, if a retiree is supposed to be using these funds to live in Thailand, why must they permanently lock 800K for five months, (two months before and three months after), and lock the remaining 400K permanently in the bank. Back on track to your other point, I believe you are spot on in waiting, as we need more information to filter through regarding the 500K, Bank statements etc and is the 180 days renewable every year, or just once, and will there be all of a sudden, a policy change leaving people high and dry. I too, was considering soft power option on catering, which I have experience or concerts and music, similarly, I have experience. My Non O retirement extension is next July, so I have time.

OK, split hairs all you want if you think it boosts your presence here. I'll correct it. The overall vast majority of international terrorist attacks are the direct work of Radical Muslims, Muslim fundamentalists, ISIS, ISAL,HAMAS, Hezbollah, and many more, and these vile acts are committed by those who profess allegiance to these organizations. The reasons we undergo such strict security at airports and in our daily lives is a direct result of the actions taken by these people.

Ah well, Oh, no I'm not, has pantomime season started already.

Last 25 years or so ago since anything from the IRA!! And that was a domestic dispute, that is hopefully getting resolved slowly. You may as well talk about Kashmir! ISLAMIC EXTREMISM IS ONGOING AND SNOWBALLING.

Anybody on AN forum trying to pick holes and state that Islam isn't a violent religion, often repeated in their texts against so called infidels, is in denial, living under a rock or just plain dumb. If only 10% are extremists, that's 200 million out of an estimated 2 Billion followers. Every time we seem to have a terrorist attack, you can virtually guarantee it is Muslim extremists. It's not Buddhists, Christians, Hindus or Sikhs, or bloody Hari Krishna, it's Muslims!

No, I am not wrong. There was quoted slightly over 48,000 terrorist attacks, NOT DEATHS, which I stated in my post.

@Foxx it just seems less hassle and lower requirements, 500K which once shown can be used as cashflow, plus a visa that lasts 5 years and no need for a multi entry permit when leaving the country. A woman has just been granted a 5 year visa for DTV and she is only going on a two week cookery course!!!!....😁 Many of us, have the 800K stuck in the bank, then the multi entry permit, and it's a yearly exercise. I am never in the country more than six months without a break anyway.

Then why are all terrorist attacks related in one form or another, misguided or otherwise, linked to Islam?

Notice you chose the dress with face coverings, popular with male conservatives, which previously wasn't very fashionable and Algerians preferred other forms of national dress. Either way, it will do the government of Algeria no good with their tourism efforts, this recent attack by a fanatic in broad daylight in front of the Swiss woman's children.

Youi are simply using an excuse that is not valid. Apples and Oranges. American gun violence has nothing to do with sponsored terrorism, they are completely different.

I thought you could extend which took you up to one year, and then do the same the next year and so on making it a yearly visa? And there were soft power DTV visas for those studying catering and/or music and Arts etc.

And that's just the women!!

I fancy going to Algeria for a holiday about as much as I would going to Afghanistan.

The quote said 48,000 separate terrorist attacks between those years, not numbers dead. 48,000 isn't many? How many more Twin towers, London and Manchester bombings, Bali bombings, etc, do we have to see? Were these military targets or just people that got up that day going to work! Let's remember who kicked all this off in Israel recently, HAMAS and the murder of innocent Israeli civilians, hoping to develop it into a wider conflict and draw in other middle eastern nations.

And don't forget hardline Islamists accept every word as law in the Quran. They don't care when it was written and the period of time people lived in. They are misguided fanatics, however, they spark fear in the wider Muslim community, hence nobody is willing, or very few, to speak out against their atrocities. We don't need to visit the ' old chestnut ' look at the Old Testament, Christians don't follow it in 2024, Muslim fanatics' do!

I've responded to him and copied some of your post.

You are saying? VERSES TELL THE TALE The Quran is replete with Surahs directing its followers to violence. Some examples follow: Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …" Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)." Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …"

I don't care what Islamists or Muslims describe me as. I find their intolerant, violent religion simply vile.

And Islamaphobia is also a made up word.

yeeha, But we are not allowed to quote facts or point these things out, because if we do, we are racists!

I have been reading today on Asean Now about the new DTV visas, as up to now with having a long term O visa followed by extension of stays, I have not paid much attention. It does seem , once you are in possession of one, to be a much better visa deal than those we are on with extensions of stay. There is no Re entry permit, it is for five years and the money in the bank option seems to be 500K, 300K better than my extension of stay, not that I ever use the 800K,nor would I use the 500K it stays there permanently With five years, I would not be at immigration every year begging extensions of stay, and the costs for such a DTV visa are negligible.(10,000 baht) Now, I would hardly be applying at 62 for a Muay Thai visa, but surely a soft power visa based on cooking classes and skills could be acceptable, couldn't it? Are there such places to enrol for cooking classes in Isaarn? The only downside I see, is applying in country of origin, unless it can be done and applied for over here in Asia? To retirees, is there something I am not seeing here in this package? What are the downsides? Have any retirees moved or are considering this option in the near future?

Pakistani MUSLIMS!

Absolutely spot on, and it's been going on for an age of time. Many of them have second homes in villages over there, as escape pods and bolt holes.