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....Got the pizza’s in... the boys probably had serious munchies !!!

With the amount of pickups that are in this country the ‘Fifth Wheel’ type travel trailers would seem to be the best way to go. It wouldn’t take much to covert the flat bed to ‘take’ the tow hitch for the fifth-wheel trailer and then people would also have mobility when at their destination. It kind of surprises me that these types have not taken off in Europe more so than the standard RV. .... and if you wanted something really fugly !!!

I suspect one would need to be less than 5ft tall to take any enjoyment out of living in that !! I’d also worry about hitting the brakes too hard and it doing a forward roll !!!!.....

Is this the infamous "guilty until proven innocent"? Liverpool Lou sometimes forgets he’s on a forum and seems to believe he’s in a courtroom and that we can only discuss proven facts and notarised statements... Opinions based on experience and interpretation of reports should not be presented because they can’t be backed up with evidence. As such we see that LL rarely discusses the actual events or topic at hand but instead seems to police the forum and tell posters that their opinion is wrong because they have no evidence or actual proof !!... Sometimes he is right of-course and he calls out posters with ridiculous and outrageous claims. Other times he’s almost deliberately obtuse and operates outside of the grey-area in which most events and discussions take place. This grey area seems completely elude him. We’ve seen a perfect example of this in this topic when to many of us it was inconceivable that the Police were not lying... but without any clear evidence LL repeatedly suggested that as our opinions could not be backed up with proven facts we were incorrect to present them. It turns out the cynicism and opinion many of us presented couldn’t have been more true - a discussion forum, not a court-room !!!

I hope the BiB don’t read this... You have just given them an excellent idea to turn this around. “after carrying out a full investigation we found our offices to have performed a search at a police checkpoint. Upon finding illegal vaping paraphernalia the subject was fined 2,700 baht - however, due to language difficulties the subject paid too much, they departed the scene before we could provide them with a receipt of their fine” !!!! (satire). The point must also be noted that the Police have announced that this check-point was not in fact a legal check-point and had been set up without the correct authorisation. I wonder how many check-points are set up around the city on a whim of the local boys in brown to try and raise revenue....

Being extorted is not the same as ‘offering a bribe’.... she was the victim not the instigator.

You forgot a point She was heavily drunk ! Have you ever seen anyone like that, being rational or capable to say or do anything? Who said she was ‘heavily drunk’ ???? It is stated that the GrabDriver reported that she was drunk and loud in the GrabCar (before they were stopped). It has since been suggested that he was ‘coerced’ in to stating that. This was one of the many of the points used by the police to muddy the waters in their smear campaign to tarnish the reputation of this lady in a very poorly executed attempt to ‘save face’ and protect themselves.

Reckon the driver recently had a new nipple ring he was trying to show off ??? ????

Its not this then (pic below).... ???? - but that camper van is pretty much all style over purpose. but, it looks great !I (I think is extortionately priced in the UK (at £60-76,000) I do agree... there’s hardly a viable market here for camper-vans... or camper vans. Its just so easy to rock up in any town or even quietest small village and find an ‘adequate’ room for the night which has AC, private bathroom etc... Yet, at the right time of year in the right area... Camping could be great fun. I’ve never tried it here, but still want to - the problem is, the camp-grounds I’ve seen pack in the tents like a music-festival.

And yes.... Add on this site... its getting worse.. having to close the ‘new letter’ pop up and then close pop up adds etc... I need a decent add blocker, but that slows Safari down..

Its horrific in the UK too... My parents do not answer their landline anymore... Its also a proper PITA in Thailand... we get a call... and some flooker has pinned us into an automatic message !!!... Its annoying enough getting an automatic message when we want something !!!... but when someone calls us and puts us straight to an automatic message is amusingly insulting !!! I also have had a couple of calls from a British man with a London accent... his voice is very animated as if he’s been on some sales training course and he believes his ‘intonation’ emphasises the amazing opportunity he’s about to give me !!!!... No idea what he’s selling, he doesn’t get that far. Usually, as soon as someone I don’t recognise calls and its not clear who they are or what they want etc in the first 10 seconds, I just cut them off... Its very impolite - but sadly, thats what has happened with so much of this cold calling.

With Thailand’s love of blaming the inanimate rather than a person for any mistakes made, i.e. brake failure made me crash, rain made me skid... etc etc... I half expected to see the police ‘arresting a few posts and wire’ for causing theft !!!!...

Erm... learn how to use the ‘expand’ function on the quotes... That said - you seem to live by a strange set of rules... some people do add further comments to an existing one thus appearing to quote themselves, perhaps for clarification... ... There’s nothing wrong with that... but you seem to think its some sort of ‘condition’... very odd.

Just the English language... but you can interpret those words and make up your own meaning for them if you like !!!... So you think its ok to call another poster total a$$hole and attack them for what you think they wrote ???

Is it such a rare event when someone gets their belongings returned to them that it makes the news each time it happens ????

What’s the news here???? … Thai teens found to be no different from teens anywhere else in the world ???

Sure???? Is the same counting methodology used in both Thailand and in the US of A???? (only those that died at the accident scene). Doubt it.... When presenting such information the excuse is usually that Thailand only those fatalities which actually occurred at the scene... But, to circumnavigate that, stats are taken from WHO estimates. The WHO estimates that 25,000 people die each year on Thailands roads. Thus: 6000 motorists (4 wheels or more) die each year on Thailands roads. Thailand’s population: 71.6 million Thus: Thailand = 8.37 deaths per 100,000 of population per year (4 wheels or more - cars, lorries, vans, busses etc). The USA figure is: 11.08 deaths per 100,000 of population per year (4 wheels or more) The aggregated road fatality rate would need to be 33,000 per year to reach the USA rate of deaths per-capital (100,000). But.... Don’t take my word for it... Run the numbers yourself and see what you come up with.

The police have admitted it.... clean your face off and give up the pathetic chase.

Would you report an extortion attempt made by the Thai Police to the Thai Police ????? As obtuse as you often can be... I think even you can understand why someone would take this to the media rather than directly to the establishment against which an accusation of corruption is being levied.... I’ll refer to my eggy comment in the post above !!!

When you look in the mirror LL... that yellow and white stuff you see on your face is egg.....

In essence, I agree with you - we should be impartial. In practice extremely difficult given the fact that this is the RTP and is widely accepted as being one of the most corrupt entities in Thailand. We have the luxury of using judgment, opinions and experience where there are no facts. This may lead to unfair or bias assumptions - however, I think most of us contributing to this thread are in agreement that where there is smoke there is most defiantly fire in this situation. IMO (and its just an opinion) the BIB surely extorted this lady - I don’t see any other explanation for her claims unless she’s some neurotic attention seeking narcissistic psycho - but this does not see to be the case. Erm.... it seems that evidence has just been made public.

Where is the CCTV that was ‘released to public’ ??? (as mentioned in the report).... any link ?

It seems there was a lot of misinformation and assumptions along with some mistranslation in the original media reports of what the lady claims. - I believe she reported that she was ‘detained for 2 hours’..... Someone may have read this and assume she meant at the police station and reported this as so, which was false - it seems her group were detained [at the roadside]. Because they don’t wear body cams in Thailand. (some may, but they have bought them themselves). Very convenient.. but not implausible. My Dash-cam footage gets overwrites when the c memory card is full.

How useful is or will the CCTV footage be ?.... is it from a distance ? Is it clear enough to show that nothing was exchanged ? Were the hands of the BiB and Taiwanese lady always in clear view? Is the footage un-broken for ‘over an hour’ (from the very start of the stop to the end when they departed). Does it clearly show that neither the ’Taiwanese girl or any of her friends’ departed outside of the field of view (of the cctv footage) at any time. The Police are claiming they have footage... but that in itself could be mislead and draw us into the impression that the footage can be conclusive - the footage itself may not be very useful at all. We don’t know until we see it. I don’t think we trust the police enough to just take their word for it.

Erm... is not clear if the amount was 27,000 baht ???..... Does that mean they accept ‘some’ money changed hands ????..... Have the RTP just dropped their ball ?? Also, IF there was a mistranslation in the amount and it was $27,000 Taiwan Dollars, thats still about 29,500 baht.