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Well you are wrong on a number of counts, so firstly, I'm not necessarily a Biden supporter, although from all of the bona fide information/statistics I've seen, the country is in a good shape now that he is in charge. Sure he may be a bit doddery from time to time, but the alternative really doesn't appeal, nor should it to any sane, sensible person. I would never vote for the orange fool, because I don't like habitual liars, nor do I like crooks who have ripped off charities, nor do I like grifters and so-called "successful" businessmen who have had so many bankruptcies as to make one think that there is something wrong with him as regards what little grey matter he has. Oh, and on the matter of bankruptcies, just think of all the everyday American tradesmen that he has shafted when doing this. Then of course you've got the current state of the GOP, which would fit quite nicely into a Disney Donald Duck/loony tunes production. Reasons enough not to change my point of view.

That is something I have done for most of my life and I wouldn't have it any other way. I did live with a lovely Thai lady and her young daughter here, and after five years we parted company, however I've unofficially adopted her daughter and have put her through high school and now University, so no regrets and benefiting from now having a lovely daughter. I was always a bit of a loner, but was also considered the "life and soul of the party" although it may seem contradictory, because I can come to life in company if I want to. Catching up with friends here occasionally is something I look forward to, but for no other reason than discussing sport, folks we know or the situation back in our home countries. After that I may not catch up with them for weeks on end, and that's fine by me. Alone is good for me, and I'm never lonely. That's the way it is and that's the way I am.

Thanks for that info placeholder, as I had no idea about this RFK jr, so had to look it up online and I can see how he fits in with some of the conspiracy theorists on this thread, and others for that matter............ Robert Francis Kennedy Jr., also known by his initials RFK Jr., is an American environmental lawyer and writer who promotes anti-vaccine misinformation and public health-related conspiracy theories.

One can only but hope...................

I have to agree with you on the Dengue vs Covid comparison, having had both of them and the Dengue was far worse by a huge margin, and I was bedridden for about two weeks, with an awful headache and terribly aching back, and even after it eased off a bit, I was still a little fragile for some time afterwards.

Have seen this and it is very good IMO, one of the best I have seen in ages.

You make some good points in your post and this one in particular above has prompted me to book an appointment next week to get the flu vaccination, a freebie, courtesy of my health insurance policy. I don't remember having a flu vaccination in the past, but I have been checking on my vaccinations over my lifetime and they include: – polio, measles, mumps, rubella, TB, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, many tetanus jabs, immunoglobulin (for yellow fever) and three Covid vaccinations here in Thailand, and I got no side-effects from any of these, so I don't suppose another flu jab would go amiss! Thanks for the reminder.

Well, because so many of the anti-vax/conspiracy theory posters have been posting their similar nonsense on another thread which has just been closed because of this, it's no surprise that some folks thought it was kosher. I'm surprised that someone hasn't come up with the idea of drinking sodium hypochlorite to kill the flu virus, because this was mentioned in the previously closed thread.

Suits me because I'd rather not engage with someone who has a mind like a sewer. Okay, Byee

So you are now a psychologist or a mindreader, as I said previously very sad, especially when it is taken out of context. My only politics are that I support people who try to do the best for their country, and the GOP certainly don't fit into that category, whereas Biden and the Democrats are doing a good job in that regard.

Well said!!

It wasn't a nice try it was merely pointing out that irrespective of what was on video, people with minds like yours put a derogatory spin on it, whereas normal people don't. So sad for you and the way your mind works Bro ????.

So is your mind, IMO.Very sad.

Unapproved........as in having no factual basis?? "Considerable damage"? Not much point really when none of this can be proven and millions of lives were saved, AND your support of America's Frontline Doctors says more about you than any of your posts ever could.................and also believing the conspiracy theory about the election puts you firmly in the camp I mentioned above. Take another course of Ivermectin.

That works both ways, because as long as you don't break free of that mindset which leads you to question and denigrate proven science, and the positive results thereof, with millions of lives saved, you leave yourself open for people to attack your mental abilities, and therefore your relevance will be extremely limited, as indeed we have seen here. Touche.

Ah, I see you are in the same camp as the "owl", and as for your comment about "most people wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole any more", well many millions have, and many millions will continue to do so, more so when the mRNA technology leads to treatments and cures for cancer and other incurable diseases. Are you also a supporter of the "America's Frontline Doctors", the discredited anti-vax mob, or perhaps believe in ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine "treatments", or perhaps you believe the 2020 USA election was stolen?? Whichever one, you fit nicely into the conspiracy theory numb nuts, and I for one am so pleased that this breakthrough has been made, which will surely benefit all the human race in years to come – – even you perhaps!

With respect, you don't need to have a "balanced view" on the opinions of this poster (I have him on ignore, so I can't see his posts), and the fact that he believes and supports "America's Frontline Doctors", a totally discredited anti-vax organisation, which promotes ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for treating Covid, should tell you all you need to know about him and his knowledge/beliefs.

Dont forget Bkk Brian that the "owl" poster is one who believes and supports the totally discredited "America's Frontline Doctors", so you don't have a chance in hell in discussing anything sensible with him. Of course he believes that nature will cure all, just as it did (not) with smallpox epidemics, leprosy, polio, diphtheria and many others both viral and bacterial. Wasting your time Brian, as there's none so blind as those who will not see.

As an adjunct to my previous post, it just so happens that I played in three Sussex Senior Cup finals on Brighton's ground in the late 60s, in front of an average crowd of about 8000 supporters, and again, never saw any of that type of behaviour. I think you're right about going to the game to "exteriorize their behaviour", and I recall something similar a few decades ago with a gang of Chelsea fans who would go to the games to cause mayhem and to injure/stab people, rather than for the football.

Don't forget that you are "talking" to a rabid anti-vaxxer, so nothing you post, even from the most reliable of sources, will sink in...........they are on the same wavelength as "the election was stolen" mob.

You "cherry-picked" the above from an article thereby taking it out of context. mRNA was being worked on by other companies and the technology was known in the 1960s. There were other companies working with this technology, albeit much later on, such as: Moderna (who had a development pipeline of 21 programs), BioNTech, Sanofi, Translate Bio and Curevac. The saving of millions of lives with the potential to wipe out many other diseases means this was a breakthrough of epic proportions.

I hope you do get your health back from whatever caused it. However the virus itself does cause some health problems and a mild form of it can still be caught despite the vaccine, but this is very rare. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are strongly recommended as safe and effective at preventing serious illness or death from COVID-19. From December 2020 to December 2021, about 470 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been given in the U.S. Roughly 12 months of data, including data from tens of thousands of participants in clinical trials, show that the vaccines are safe and effective at preventing serious disease or death due to COVID-19. mRNA technology used in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines has been in development for over 15 years.

Although I am a supporter, I am not a fanatic and would like to see them do well.........but if they don't then c'est la vie and my life goes on!! Mentioning fanatics, ofttimes when I am looking at Match of the Day on BBC iPlayer, I see people gesticulating rudely at the opposition players, and/or screaming and shouting as if they are going to have a breakdown. When I used to watch Brighton and Hove Albion as a boy, going there with a family friend who was a supporter, I never saw any of this behaviour, everyone was well behaved and there was none of that rubbish. How times have changed.

More like get a banana in return!!

Well, the mRNA aspect of the vaccine has been worked on and studied since the 1960s, but there was a problem in finding a way to get it delivered into the cells, however this was overcome when a method was found in the 1970s when nanotechnology advances were made. More tests were carried out in the 1990s so when Covid hit, scientists and the medical profession were prepared. Huge increases in funding for this research was spurred by the Covid 19 pandemic and allowed a huge increase in research into the area. So it's hardly an exploratory drug (the research into it was being carried out over 60 years ago) and the same could be said for many other drugs and vaccines in use today (did the medical establishment know the potential long-term effects of the polio vaccine, for example, and the same goes for many others) so scaremongering is high on the list of the anti-brigade. I put my trust in the medical profession rather than social media websites and the rubbish that gets posted on them. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines