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Jesus, if you were on the Oxford or Cambridge debating team, then it must have been a pretty poor bunch! First of all I stated that I had Streptococcus sanguinius in my urinary system and that was confirmed by a culture test, yet you dismissed that as not being the case??? I also presented case histories/medical publications of the same and also regarding this particular bacteria being found in the prostate, again you dismissed it, obviously because you didn't read them, and my point about this particular bacteria was that if it gets into the bloodstream it can be dangerous, which you have now stated can be the case. And as for your assertion that the dentist I had which fractured my lower jaw was a "poor operator" then that's another own goal for you, because my normal and highly regarded dentist in New Zealand recommended a well-known oral surgeon to do the extraction because the root of the tooth was somewhat crooked in the jaw, and it was he who fractured my jaw. And just for the record no, I wasn't stressed or run down or immunocompromised when the Streptococcus sanguinis found its way into my urinary system. As for your last question regarding advocating antibiotics for all dental patients, that is not something I've advocated, and I will go with what the experts know (not you of course) and what is widely recommended by these experts.

Yes, and I have offered my expertise and research on streptococcus sanguinis, which has been found in the prostate, and indeed in my UTI. We may differ on this, but I've been through this actual experience and there are medical journals which backup my research. No doubt about it you are the expert on dentistry, and although your posts would suggest that antibiotics are not necessary, again there are many, many medical articles which are in favour of issuing antibiotics, and many which warn of the problems with streptococcus sanguinis finding its way into the bloodstream and colonising the heart valves (which you scoffed at in one of my earlier posts) especially in cases of difficult extractions (wisdom teeth?). So I guess we will have to agree to differ. However if you are unfortunate enough to get that particular bacteria in your urinary system/prostate, then you may be in for many years or even decades of prostatitis, which is extremely unpleasant. PS. I hope the checkup and x-rays on your hip replacement show that everything is well.

Sorry I didn't see that, but it was "spot on"!!!

Really pleased to hear that Rick, as after my experience, I wouldn't wish it on anybody, however you have come through with flying colours and all's well that ends well.

I totally agree with your comment about having four wisdom teeth out in one sitting as being "too traumatic". The one I had removed, lower jaw, took an age to remove (well over an hour as I recall) and was very bloody and messy and eventuated in me having a broken jaw! God only knows what having four out at one time would entail!

With respect you seem to be missing the salient point in a couple of the links/research I have posted, whereby streptococcus sanguinis has been found in the prostate, and can be the cause of prostatitis – – and for anyone who has had this condition, that would indeed be a "salient point". So these bacteria DO NOT ONLY CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH COMPROMISED HEART VALVES!!!!! It's all there, out in the open in published and peer-reviewed papers/research if you care to look

I downloaded and watched, "NOPE" which seems to have crept surreptitiously into the movies I am able to download, so I was hoping for a nice surprise. My feedback is: – – IMO, is it a good movie – NOPE – Does it have characters which develop and draw you into the movie – NOPE – Is the storyline good – NOPE, and what on earth the chimpanzee beginning has to do with the movie, I'm not quite sure. – Were the special effects good? – NOPE. And the spaceship/entity/thingy would have been more at home in an Ed Wood movie. – Was it original – NOPE as the spaceship/entity/thingy repeated similar scenes which were seen in another war of the worlds movie. Altogether a NOPE!!

I think that the thinking has changed over the years, however in this particular person's case he was having four wisdom teeth removed, and that can be quite a dreadful procedure, which I have first-hand knowledge of because the dental specialist actually broke my jaw in trying to extract my wisdom tooth! It is an interesting topic and in my case, I strongly advocate antibiotics for the removal of four wisdom teeth, which can be very complicated and "messy"!

The quotes I used were from carefully controlled studies and not just any old "quotes from Google", and furthermore there is more information available on it, the deeper you wish to look; and I have been doing this research for decades now, and I have enough information and links in this research to prove my point. I don't follow the media and "shallow social media blogs" when doing my research on prostatitis, but I do follow published papers and peer reviewed studies. I'm not doubting your qualifications, however I am saying that you are mistaken on this particular point and my next point below further backs this up. Again, further research will show that streptococcus sanguinis has been found in the prostate and in my case it was found in the urinary tract, which was verified by culture tests done at Bangkok Phuket Hospital. The article below will explain this and hopefully put paid to any doubts you may have about this particular bacteria........... According to the classification criteria established by the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH), prostatitis is divided into the following four categories: acute bacterial prostatitis, chronic bacterial prostatitis, chronic prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndrome (CP/CPPS), and asymptomatic prostatitis. CP/CPPS reportedly has a significant negative impact on the quality of life.1, 2 CP/CPPS accounts for 80% to 90% of prostatitis cases,3 but its etiology and pathogenesis remain poorly understood. The pathogens isolated from global cases of acute and CP primarily include Escherichia coli, Staphylococcus aureus, Staphylococcus epidermidis, Klebsiella, Proteus spp., Enterococcus spp., Pseudomonas aeruginosa, and Corynebacterium.4, 5 Chronic bacterial prostatitis may also be caused by anaerobic bacteria, the most common of which are Streptococcus sanguis and Bacteroides. Studies have also shown that sexually transmitted microorganisms, such as mycoplasma, Chlamydia trachomatis, Neisseria gonorrhoeae, human papillomavirus, and Trichomonas vaginalis, are among the most common pathogens of CP.3, 6 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/pros.23971 AND from another publtshed article: Blood and urine cultures resulted positive for S. sanguinis. In this case, we report S. sanguinis causing urinary sepsis as a primary inciting event. Although S. sanguinis is an unusual cause of urinary tract pathology, treatment should be considered if the clinical picture is consistent with infection. Given the concern of dissemination, we recommend at least two weeks of antibiotics against S. sanguinis with repeated negative blood cultures prior to ureteral procedures. For the record, my son is a medical professional in London and specialises in infectious diseases, and has published many papers. Perhaps the need to gain knowledge in this area is genetic!!!!!!!

Dumb is as dumb does!!

Well I was only quoting from published papers and from Wikipedia, and what I have also been told by a dentist friend of mine, and much to my dismay this particular bacteria found its way into my urinary system (it was cultured so was definitely this bacteria) and I had to have 14 days of intravenous carbapenem to get rid of it, which was extremely expensive. See below................... Streptococcus sanguinis (S. sanguinis) is an abundant oral commensal which can cause disseminated human infection if it gains access to the bloodstream. The most important among these diseases is infective endocarditis (IE). https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2020.00010/full S. sanguinis is a normal inhabitant of the healthy human mouth where it is particularly found in dental plaque, where it modifies the environment to make it less hospitable for other strains of Streptococcus that cause cavities, such as Streptococcus mutans. S. sanguinis may gain entrance to the bloodstream when opportunity presents (dental cleanings and surgeries) and colonize the heart valves, particularly the mitral and aortic valves, where it is the most common cause of subacute bacterial endocarditis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streptococcus_sanguinis

I'm not sure about the Holep procedure here in Phuket, although I do know that they do normal Turp procedures. I have looked on the Bangkok Phuket Hospital website and and it does give the name of a urologist, but I have not had a good experience with this person, so I can't recommend him, not sure that he is familiar with the Holep procedure anyway (send me a PM if you want his name). This procedure is done in Bangkok and I have attached a link for your perusal: – https://www.lyfboat.com/hospitals/holmium-laser-enucleation-of-the-prostate-holep-hospitals-and-costs-in-thailand/

Was the house built on a landfill by any chance, because landfill land which has been reclaimed, can cause this effect, even after many years?

Following my decision to seek out and download a few older movies, last night I watched, "The Kingdom of Heaven" and although I could remember just a few parts of it, I thoroughly enjoyed it, so much so that I decided to do some research after watching it, and it was a surprise. In the movie there was a king of Jerusalem, who was a leper, which I thought was made up for the movie, and there were other aspects of it which prompted me to do a bit more research after the movie finished, and I was very surprised at what I found – – for example, the Knights Templar, who I'd always thought of as being "the good guys" weren't anything like that and were catholic soldiers (best thing I could call them) who were very bloodthirsty. Anyway still a very good watch for anybody willing to download it, which took me a long time because there were very few seeders!

Where can I find that please Vinci?

A key question, but one to which you didn't know the answer, but which a 15 year old would know! Strange, unless you had an ulterior motive? Darwinism is not wrong, and I quote "Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution is one of the most solid theories in science" although some aspects of it are being debated, in the main it still seems the seminal work. I have no idea what you are talking about with regards to "20-year-olds do that on Twitter" because I have never visited Twitter, nor do I have access to it, nor do I want to. As for your statement about "one-upmanship" only you know the meaning of that in this context, because I have no idea to what you are referring. Anyway, I can't waste my time debating nonsense with people like you, who seem to dream up all sorts of strange retorts, and at the age of 75, I choose to interchange with other learned folk like myself, not Twitter guys like you! So onto "ignore" you go. PS. You obviously spend time on Twitter because you seem to know a lot about it!

Yes, and I see Attitude sickness sometimes on this thread!! Sorry couldn't resist it Aj! Good on you for going trekking in Nepal, and stay safe.

On the contrary, your question was the tactic you used to try and elicit the response you wanted, and not a "genuine" question, and it is a very simple argumentative technique. And as for not being able to answer your question, well I did, this after enquiring as to whether you were serious or not with the question, to which a child would know the answer, so why ask it? As for natural selection, well I will follow the experts on this........... Coyne concludes his introduction with the bold statement that “all the evidence — both old and new — leads ineluctably to the conclusion that evolution is true. In this succinct and accessible summary of the facts supporting the theory of natural selection, Jerry A. Coyne dispels common misunderstandings and fears about evolution and clearly confirms the scientific truth that supports this amazing process of change.

You may wish to stop your "mind boggling" and do some research........... S. sanguinis may gain entrance to the bloodstream when opportunity presents (dental cleanings and surgeries) and colonize the heart valves, particularly the mitral and aortic valves, where it is the most common cause of subacute bacterial endocarditis. For this reason, oral surgeons often prescribe a short course of antibiotics to be taken a few days before to a few days after oral surgery. Once an infection has occurred, treatment is much more complicated and generally involves the administration of several weeks of penicillin and aminoglycoside antibiotics.

Your question was, "where did humans come from?" And my answer was well, if you have ask a question like that, I feel sorry for you, and that still applies. So, intelligent folk and those who don't believe in fairy stories, believe humans didn't come from God, which is what I think you are angling at, and I would be wasting my time if I tried to explain to somebody who believes that the first man was created by an ethereal entity, who then created a woman from his rib, and the story from thereon in involves a talking serpent and an apple, and many years later a virgin birth, the resurrection and someone floating up to the skies. Not to mention an old man building an ark which housed pairs of every creature on earth....and more fairy stories. You could, however, read "Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution which is one of the most solid theories in science. And especially for you, evolution is the process of change in all forms of life over generations, and evolutionary biology is the study of how evolution occurs. Biological populations evolve through genetic changes that correspond to changes in the organisms' observable traits.

Well if you have to ask that question here, I feel sorry for you.

Now children, no more fairy stories for today, so go outside and play for a while!

Is there no end to the lies and hero worship given to the orange clown, and it made me smile to read this post about the supposed writer of, "The Art of the Deal", trump, because he didn't actually write it. Not only that, he has a whole swathe of failed and bankrupt businesses behind him, making a complete mockery of any "art of the deal" that he thinks he had! Trumpies, read and learn: Last June, as dusk fell outside Tony Schwartz’s sprawling house, on a leafy back road in Riverdale, New York, he pulled out his laptop and caught up with the day’s big news: Donald J. Trump had declared his candidacy for President. As Schwartz watched a video of the speech, he began to feel personally implicated. Trump, facing a crowd that had gathered in the lobby of Trump Tower, on Fifth Avenue, laid out his qualifications, saying, “We need a leader that wrote ‘The Art of the Deal.’ ” If that was so, Schwartz thought, then he, not Trump, should be running. Schwartz dashed off a tweet: “Many thanks Donald Trump for suggesting I run for President, based on the fact that I wrote ‘The Art of the Deal.’ ” And indeed Tony Schwartz did write the book with very little, if minuscule input from the orange clown. Why let the truth get in the way of a trump fallacy/lie?

Judging by the posts we have seen on these and similar threads, there is no limit as to how dumb they can be. Seems like 'trumpies" have cornered the market on stupidity!!!

Was it supposed to be a comedy??