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Who is going to pull them over ? 555 Seen many times in the West, cop car pulls up to red light, on go the blue-and-red, slow drive thru the intersection, off go the lights, carry on. Who is going to pull them over ?

In Thailand they insure the vehicle, not the driver. If the car you are driving is insured, you SHOULD be covered. But the owner may have put a rider on the policy naming those who are covered by the policy. If your name is not on it, you are not covered. When renting, you usually buy first class coverage from the car rental agency. Check with them if they have a Thai license only policy. Most of the big name players, Avis, Hertz, Budget accept valid out-of-country licenses. But it is up to you to check and make sure you are covered. For example, Popcarrent in CNX has many bikes for rent. No first class insurance available. You wreck it, you pay for the repairs.

I always carry my Thai driver's license. It is an official identification document and it has my passport number on it, so they can check my status in their computer (immigration's computer that is).

I showed them both. Did not matter. Still wanted to see passport, and either 90 day report or exit/entry stamps.

And read the OP, it was a "Farang Police Auxiliary".

You might refuse/question this.

What will be the outcome?

They take you to the station or to immigration.

My Sentiments Exactly. Smile, be Polite, say Sorry, Agree to what they ask, be on your way. Can they - legally - ??? Risk of big PITA - great.

Stopped this morning at what I thought was a routine spot check. Directed to a Farang Police Auxiliary. He asked me for my passport - replied I have a copy. Gave it to him - he asked for a copy of my 90 day report. SaidI went to Laos last week so no 90 day report. He replied that Immigration is cracking down - quote "Bad Guys Out, Good Guys In" In the future, carry a copy of your 90 day report, or copies of the exit and entrance stamps in your passport so we can see if you are in the country legally or not. Said OK. FYI

Rent only from one of the large established firms - Avis, Hertz, etc. They have real first class insurance, with a deductible clearly stated. Sure, they cost more than the little guys, but pay a little now, and do not have to pay a lot later. On renting they have a handout with all the phone numbers you will need, and the procedure clearly spelled out of what to do when anything happens. Follow it to the letter, then smile, walk away, climb into your replacement rental car supplied by the same company, and drive away.

Thanks for the advice. I rented from National so think that should be okay. Hoping to stay safe on these not so safe roads.

One other thing comes to mind - here or any other place on the planet. Admit nothing. Answer simple questions from police - what direction you were travelling, you had not been drinking, leave ALL the rest to the insurance agent. Politely decline to say ANYTHING until he/she arrives, and then let them do all the talking. Their house - their rules.

24/7 365 if you have First Class insurance. If you do not know where you are - well, that I can not help you with.

Rent only from one of the large established firms - Avis, Hertz, etc. They have real first class insurance, with a deductible clearly stated. Sure, they cost more than the little guys, but pay a little now, and do not have to pay a lot later. On renting they have a handout with all the phone numbers you will need, and the procedure clearly spelled out of what to do when anything happens. Follow it to the letter, then smile, walk away, climb into your replacement rental car supplied by the same company, and drive away.

In Canada the passport does not belong to the individual, it belongs to the Canadian Government. Don't know about other countries

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Yamaha GT 125 - https://translate.google.com.sg/translate?hl=en&sl=id&u=http://www.yamaha-motor.co.id/gt125/spec.php&prev=search

The East side of the pond is different. In N. America we have 2 door hardtop- no pillar behind the door, 4 door hardtop - same, 2 door post - pillar behind the door, and 4 door sedan - same. But we have always been different. An estate is where you live if you are rich, in the Old country it is what we call a station wagon.

From Wiki - A coupé (US coupe) (from the French past participle coupé, of the infinitive couper, to cut) is a closed two-door car body style with a permanently attached fixed roof,^[1

Worked well in Cartagena circa 1982

This whole topic just illustrates how lazy people are. Double park so they do not have to walk 50 or 100 meters more. Heaven Forbid. I always park right beside a concrete post. Cuts my chances of being hit by some yokel by 25%

Quote from another Northern Thailand motorcycle Forum describing the Pai MHS road during road works - However I wouldn’t be concerned about the Versys handling it. I did that road 2 weeks ago with 9 others on a combination of Honda 500x’s, Honda NC 750’s, Versys and triumph Bonnevilles. All handled the dust and mud and deep sand and rocks easily, real dramas were the vehicles passing on the inside on the curves on the roadworks. Posted 21 Dec 2015

Okay but how come the BMW GS1200 is one of the most popular world tourers?

Just giving my opinion. I could never own a BMW boxer - the look just does not do it for me. Why are they so popular ? Beats me. Watching Long Way Round should be ample evidence of how unpractical they are off road. Good if you have 4 or 5 or 6 support vehicles behind you to carry your gear I suppose. With those aluminum garbage can-sized boxes bolted on both sides and the top - fugly. Used to travel to Alaska on the Top of the World highway with my HD. 150km of gravel road. Street tires. Never a problem. But Ride what you Like.

I rode the NC700 - very nice on the road. Smooth, quiet. These bikes like the AT confuse me. Seems all about looks not performance - style over substance. Rode dirt bikes - real ones like YZ490, Husqvarna MX models, etc. At 240kg the AT is just a road bike tarted up to look the part of going to Dakar. Very porky to be going anywhere 'Off Road' than maybe a dirt track or a gravel road. And it better be dry or you will be on your keester. Want an off road bike - fine. But these have none of the benefits. Good to go to Starbucks in BKK

"The western world" Isn't just the US. Perhaps learn that before posting?

And regardless, by any measure, the Western World consistently outperforms most of the rest of the world in the area of dealing with corruption.

Thailand remains vastly corrupt and the current regime has, at best, applied a band aid to various points of a ruptured artery. At best.

I am not American. Maybe a map will be of help to you. Thailand - by most people - is classified as being in the East. Europe, North Central South America is in the West. And The West deals with corruption better ? Please. You have been watching too much network news. It is just as corrupt, but the citizens are spoon fed - and accept it willingly. Well, most anyway

What old man line. Simple fact. If you can not handle a large bike - get a small one. Coming home from work I came around the corner and there was a bright yellow Gold Wing, trailer attached, blocking both lanes of the road. Guy was the size of the Michelin man, his wife not far behind. Road was damp but not wet. He could not pick it up, and they were both standing there staring at the bike, but their levitation skills were not working. I weigh 80-85kg. Went to the bike, used the technique described above, got it upright, started it, and parked it on the shoulder for them. Do not know what all this talk of CofG, mud, etc means. Use the proper technique and it can be done. And that Honda weighed more than the AT I think. Google says 410kg - no weight for the added trailer. So over 50% more.

Checks are worthless in Thailand. There are no protections for anything in Thai banks, money talks bull scat walks. Bought and sold many cars houses bikes here, always cash. Btw, 3 million will just fit under my bike seat.

In my previous life I found that one million dollars in 100 dollar bills just fit into a standard briefcase. Wonder how much would fit under the seat on a PCX ?

The CG on a HD is way lower than a loaded AT.

If both are laying on their sides I hazard that there is not much difference in CofG. HD way more heavy, and as said - if a 60kg girl can do it I would be ashamed to wait for help. Maybe buy a smaller bike if you can not handle a large one.

The ones in N. America had a heater powered by gasoline from the fuel tank. Here in LOS - doubtful.

Use your legs, not your back and arms. Rode with a girl - must have weighed 60kg with a pocket full of rocks. She could stand up a full dresser HD - alone - using this method. Find two strong places to grab, turn around so your back is facing the low side of the bike. Bend legs, grab hold, straighten your legs. Bike is upright.

My apologies. I thought the two lines in both charts were for both bikes. Now I see the top is the MT09 and the bottom the CRF. Both with and without Termi exhaust

Full time systems work well in slippery conditions - think snow and ice, mud. And you need to unlearn old habits when driving in such conditions. Same as FWD - if car starts to over or understeer, turn wheel in direction you want to go and floor the throttle. It will pull/push the car/truck in the direction of travel. Worse thing to do - back off the throttle or step on the brake.