Airalee

1. You’re not a football player. 2. Using professional athletes as a basis does not represent the general public.

You should back your claims with verifiable facts. You haven’t.

I’m not their mom, Doctor or keeper. It’s not my place to make suggestions nor recommendations. Nor is it yours.

Well, then all those people should consult with their individual doctors and not worry about what a bunch of impatient anonymous forum members (or anybody else) thinks.

1 in 10 is a pretty sad statistic. Why hasn’t the MSM and governments around the world been pushing healthy living over the last couple years? But nope. Under the guise of diversity, now the mantra is “Health at every size”. I suppose that’s why people in the US gained an average of 29 lbs during the pandemic. I suspect the next crisis will be knee replacements and a shortage of mobility scooters. https://haescommunity.com

I don’t know. But they should both probably lose some weight.

It’s acceptable enough to be able to comment that people (in general) don’t take good enough care of their health.

A second opinion should be obtained from another qualified physician, not from myself. I would however suggest that they try to eat a healthy diet, exercise and abstain from drinking and smoking. But they probably wouldn’t listen anyways and would quite possibly say “who do you think you are? My doctor?”

I have never once made a recommendation either for nor against vaccination. I also believe in doctor/patient confidentiality so their discussion is between themselves. I do not assume to know what their doctor will advise based upon the content of their conversation.

I agree that someone with a chronic disease should have a discussion with their doctor and not take any advice (either for nor against vaccines) from any poster here on this forum.

You should be more explicit when you make sweeping statements.

But that’s not what we are talking about. We are discussing YOUR claim that “It was only ever said they would reduce transmission.” please refrain from posting misinformation. It only hinders your cause.

No. Overweight and Obese people are. 2.8 million deaths annually. https://www.who.int/news-room/facts-in-pictures/detail/6-facts-on-obesity Of the 5.5 million global Covid 19 deaths, how many were overweight or obese? Perhaps there should be mandates on peoples weights? Forced dietary restrictions if over a 24 BMI?

But the facts (numbers) are saying something different. Let’s look at New South Wales (population 8.166 million) “2,030 COVID-19 patients were hospitalized in New South Wales. Of those patients, 28.8% were unvaccinated and 68.9% were fully vaccinated.” https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/14/blog-posting/australia-vaccination-status-hospitalized-covid-19/ 2030 in the hospital out of 8,166,000. That’s one out of every (over) 4,000 people. Insignificant. Feel free to pull up the statistics for the other states. And next time, please refrain from posting misinformation.

Wrong. "You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations," "If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in the ICU unit, and you’re not going to die." -Joe Biden

Ageism? LOL. Get real. If you want to complain about ageism, take it up with the virus. Ask it about sexism while you’re at it. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1245896/australia-number-of-coronavirus-deaths-by-age-group-and-gender/

92.8% of Covid deaths were with people with comorbidities. “The risk of mortality associated with at least one comorbidity combined was 1113 times higher than that with no comorbidity. The comparative analysis identified nine comorbidities with odds ratios of up to 35 times higher than no comorbidities. Of them, the top four comorbidities were: hypertension (odds ratio 34.73; 95% CI 3.63-331.91; p = 0.002), diabetes (odds ratio 20.16; 95% CI 5.55-73.18; p < 0.00001), cardiovascular disease (odds ratio 18.91; 95% CI 2.88-124.38; p = 0.002), and chronic kidney disease (odds ratio 12.34; 95% CI 9.90-15.39; p < 0.00001).” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34449622/ 1113 times higher. That is far more concerning than the increase in deaths (and most likely long Covid also) due to being unvaccinated. Better to be healthy than vaccinated?

I’m just pointing out what he said. Try to stay on topic please. Now let’s return to the original topic. Long Covid. “June 8, 2021 – Obesity -- an established major risk factor in the development of severe infection or death from COVID-19 infection -- also appears to significantly increase the risk of developing long-term complications from the disease, a syndrome often referred to as long-haul COVID-19, according to a new study.” https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210608/obesity-increases-risk-of-long-covid-study-finds

He didn’t say that exactly. What he did say was… “It’s unthinkable to vaccinate during a pandemic. They’re silent. It is the antibodies produced by the virus that enable the infection to become stronger. It is what we call antibody-dependent enhancement, which means antibodies favour a certain infection. It is clear that the new variants are created by antibody-mediated selection due to the vaccination,” -Luc Montagnier French virologist and joint recipient, with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen, of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). https://www.indiatoday.in/fact-check/story/fact-check-nobel-laureate-luc-montagnier-didn-t-say-covid-vaccine-recipients-will-die-in-two-years-1807023-2021-05-26

The Impact of Obesity on SARS-CoV-2 Pandemic Mortality Risk https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/nutrients/nutrients-13-03446/article_deploy/nutrients-13-03446-v2.pdf I never implied that any type of death was unimportant. Death is just a fact of life. Nobody lives forever. Stop with your nonsense please.

I mentioned them originally. And you told me I was wrong. I wasn’t. You were. Pointing out facts with links from the CDC and NIH is hardly sociopathy. People should be encouraged to be healthy. If they took better care of themselves then Covid and “Long haul Covid” wouldn’t pose nearly the problem that it potentially does.

Oh nonsense. Comorbidity and its Impact on Patients with COVID-19 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7314621/ And yes. Obesity and heart disease are mostly lifestyle related and risks can be mitigated by making the hard choices….what you put in your mouth. https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/risk_factors.htm Embarrassing that you don’t understand these things. And old people? Old people die. Ones with comorbidities (based on poor lifestyle choices) die easier.

It hasn’t been PC for a long time. Big is beautiful, fat can be healthy and all that other nonsense. Moobs on a man are no more attractive than a muffin top on a woman. One would have thought that during the pandemic, that people might have reflected on their individual health status. But nope. The modern way is “I like muh food” and give me a pill to fix whatever ails me. Don’t tell me what to eat! My body my choice! “Forty-two percent of U.S. adults said they gained more weight than they intended, and of those, the amount they reported gaining averaged 29 pounds. Ten percent said they gained more than 50 pounds. Weight gain that leads to obesity can put people at higher risk for serious illness from coronavirus.” https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-weight-gain-30-pounds-pandemic/ Gained more weight than intended? Who in the heck intends on gaining weight?

Type 1 diabetes, otherwise known as juvenile onset diabetes isn’t age related. Type 2 diabetes is definitely lifestyle (diet) related. Cancer. Yeah…many cancers are lifestyle related. Especially lung cancer from smoking which I would assume would cause issues both before and after Covid. Advanced age….well…old people would most likely suffer ill effects after most serious conditions. Breaking a hip or other bones comes to mind. Heart disease….diet and lifestyle related. Obesity…lifestyle and diet related. So, if you think that lifestyle related issues aren’t major contributing factors, you would be wrong.

One wonders what the health conditions and comorbidities were/are of those that suffer long term effects after Covid. I know a few people who got Covid. A couple are doing just fine afterwards (both were fit before contracting it and the effects both during and after were minimal. One even ran a marathon shortly afterwards. Even got a personal best if I remember correctly. Another was obese. He had a tough time both during and for a while after his infection. He has now decided to embark on a pretty serious fitness regimen and is doing much better now. Could “long Covid” just be an extension of a persons general poor health. Kind of a “straw that broke the camels back”?