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Prayut has everything under control.
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Look on the bright side ... no bar fines!
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44 minutes ago, Proboscis said:
But if you don't test, you will end up like any of the countries currently in lockdown, with hospitals over-run and not enough respiratory support to go around, with people dying in their thousands or, if things continue to go bad, into their hundreds of thousands.
There is a severe economic problem with not testing - it is that many key employees, including doctors and nurses, will be in quarantine when they should be deployed. A test would release this resource.
Where did I say you shouldn’t test? If I were Donny I’d call you out on fake news.
Trump was boasting that the US had this under control, with low numbers. The testing rollout is going to blow that lie out of the water. That was my point.
But the problem now is that if this is widespread in the community, testing is far too late. Think of the Human Resources you will need to trace contacts.
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Beware of what you wish for. The numbers infected will be horrendous, and Trump’s incompetence will not be disguised by cries of “fake news”. Shut just got real Donny.
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I agree with the good doctor. If you are in Thailand it is time to avoid cafes, bars, and nightclubs. Go out for essentials, and wear a mask if you have one. Most people recover from this virus, but many people will die, and those that get through it via intensive care might do so with life changing injuries.
Even if you are a sceptic, there’s no harm done in following guidelines.
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It looks more like a “suckers rally”.
America is rolling out a high volume of testing. Unfortunately that is going to highlight the real number of infections. Trump was boasting yesterday about how low the numbers of infected is. The fool doesn’t quite grasp that those numbers are going to sky rocket a week or two after roll out. That’s the next shoe to drop. People will be getting laid off, businesses will not have the cash or credit to survive ... and President Biden will have to pick up the pieces.
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I’ll be shorting the school on Monday ... disease ridden hole.
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I wonder if that was the only dirty hole he’d been down that night?
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5 hours ago, UbonThani said:1918 little to no healthcare.
Try reading up on modern times.
1918 55555
Like comparing ww1 with the internet.
Sars
Swine flu
Bird flu
Yearly flu
You know like common sense and modern times and that
You’re ignorance knows no limits. Imagine the best equipped hospital in Lombardy, with 20 icu beds with ventilators. 100 patients arrive this week with viral pneumonia, all requiring a ventilator. Antibiotics have no effect on a virus. That’s what is going on in Italy, and went on in Wuhan. Iran is worse because it has even less facilities.
The problem with common sense I see that it isn’t that common.
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11 minutes ago, UbonThani said:They said tens of millions would die from sars and swine flu too.
Common sense says otherwise. After 25 years of scare campaigns it would be about time people realised what's going on. Who funds these people?
I’m reading a book about the 1918 flu pandemic. A US army colonel was in charge of a camp and he was advised by senior medics not to overcrowd the quarters with men or accept new men due to the severe flu outbreak in other camps. He ignored their advice. Then had to watch as thousands of his men died. He cared about his men, he had their best interests at heart. He didn’t take the medical advice because it was only flu and he’d seen men get over that with the help of medics. He shot himself in the head with a revolver.
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5 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:Covid-19 has been around since December. Immunity to other corona viruses doesn't give you immunity to Covid-19.
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Thank you previous posters ... the “it’s only the flu” gang.
Except it’s not only the flu, it’s a new virus and no one has immunity from it. The death rate in Italy is currently running over 6% of cases. In the USA the regular flu kills 0.1%, and a little more in a bad season.
The problem is that although 80% get through it okay, it appears that 20% require hospitalisation, and around 6% need to be attached to ventilators. So Lombardy had to deal with more patients requiring ventilation in a day, than they would normally in a month. So people who need to be ventilated, don’t get it, and the death rate soars.
There are no virologists, epidemiologists, or recognised experts in this field who are calling this a hoax or “only the flu”.
They obviously didn’t study at the University of Thai Visa?
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My fear about this is that it follows a similar path to the 1918 pandemic, which came in three waves, before disappearing. The first wave was like a heavy flu, with some deaths. But it was the second wave that caused the most deaths. The virus mutated and became more efficient and aggressive. It killed many in the 20-35 age range, and some died within a few hours. The third wave was milder, and didn’t cause the same level of damage. At least 50 million died.
Let’s hope that we knock it on the head by the end of the Summer.
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7 hours ago, ThaiBunny said:
Reports where?
I read it on Zero Hedge blog then on the Daily Mail website. A team of Chinese scientists used a bus with cameras on board to identify everyone, where they were seated, etc. The guy with the virus passed it on to several passengers who were in his own airspace, he never touched them. The conclusion is that the virus is transmitted airborne. So the poster wasn’t posting an urban myth.
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8 minutes ago, Skallywag said:
70 people infected out of a population of 69 million people. Pandemic has not reached Thailand yet IMO
Grocery stores, malls, restaurants would be more of a concern to me.
Good advice on cleanliness, washing hands
Peace
How do you know the number is really 70? And if accurate, remember that Northern Italy and South Korea had much less cases a month ago.
An American specialist in infectious diseases has reportedly said that the virus is being breathed in, rather than being transmitted from hand to face, on most occasions. He was interviewed on the Joe Rogan experience. He reportedly said that N95 masks can be effective but the others don’t offer much protection.
For older people the key is to avoid getting it, because if you do and it causes pneumonia, you will not be cared for. In Italy they are so overwhelmed that they are not intubating people over 60, and people with a poor health history. So take this seriously, it is not just a flu.
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19 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:Yet the Australian F1 this weekend is going ahead !! 100,000 fans in attendance....
Is the rest of the world over reacting or are F1 just trying to limit financial losses by running this race ??
I’m reading a book called The Great Influenza, about the so-called Spanish flu of 1918. In Philadelphia the medical head, a Mr Kruson, gave the go ahead for a Liberty Bonds Parade, to help the war effort, despite being told by expert medics not to. The infection rate soon sky rocketed and thousands died. The same mistakes are being made 100 years later.
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I used the dentist in Central Mall a few years back. It wasn’t cheap but the lady knew what she was doing and did a very good job.
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3 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:A zero payroll tax is hardly a good thing for billionaires.
But even that far left Governor of California is praising Trump's methods to contain the Wuhan Flu.
MAGA
Sure, Democrats are loving Trump’s slow moving train crash ... as the number of infections and deaths rises, Trump approval ratings and markets fall.
He’s going to be a one term President.
MASA ... Make America Sick Again. Just like 1918.
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I’m amazed that we haven’t seen more cases in Thailand? Perhaps amulets and making merit do work after all?
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It’s impossible to know the real numbers, even if the government were trying to be honest about it and making every effort to keep an accurate record.
Id work on the basis that you are surrounded by the virus and take every precaution ... frequent hand washing, avoiding crowds, not allowing visitors to your home, etc. Soon even the Thai authorities will be unable to hide the impact.
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A number of people committed suicide following Bernie’s mammoth fraud ... leave him where he is.
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8 hours ago, ivor bigun said:
So did i ,but it took hours of searching to find them amongst the 99% of males that were there,then they had the photo shoot.
You didn’t look very hard ... I recall the two news programmes that were aired interviewing an Afghan with his family and an Iranian with his wife and sick baby. Not to mention the crying young girl having her eyes washed by her mother due the tear gas from Greece.
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To be fair to Thailand (and sometimes I am), this issue arises in every country in the world. No country has enough of anything needed to keep this virus at bay. The heads of the CDC today in the US admitted that they only have 10% of the masks needed by medical staff should COVID-19 be widespread in the US.
I do wonder whether this is the every 100 year epidemic that the scientists were anticipating? The last and worst one was in 1918-19, so this is bang on time.
We are all living in interesting times ... stay safe TV patrons ... if you all die I won't have anyone to digitally take the <deleted> out of!!!
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7 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said:Even the state run German TV had to confess that they painted a wrong picture in 2015 when they showed mostly crying kids and women while more than 70% of the "refugees" were young, strong men.
I don't doubt it. There are plenty of children on the news with their families. My main point was about young men fighting pointless wars ... sent by people who don't put themselves in harms way. The guy I replied to seemed to think that's what they should be doing instead of seeking a better life abroad. I'm not sure I blame young people for wanting to get away from all that ... being used by tyrants.
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German institute: Two years for pandemic to run its course
in World News
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The Spanish flu of 1918/19, thought to have originated in Kansas, came in three waves, with the mutated second wave being the most aggressive and deadly.
if you are fit and healthy better to get it and join the herd. Older and at risk people need to severely alter their lifestyles for a couple of years, avoiding crowds, for example.
A vaccine will be problematic if this thing mutates, although if you get it it’s likely any further contraction will be less severe.