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Flying into the new epicentre of the Coronavirus ... out of the frying pan!
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1 hour ago, rabas said:
I don't see how that can work. Patient studies so far (on groups with known outcomes) put it around 8%-14%, which is SARS like, which makes sense. Anyway you must use a fixed population all with known outcomes.
Some disturbing corroboration from Kan Chen a formal senior scientist at J&J and Harvard trained immunologist in Shanghai:
"According to the clinical experiences of a physician at the epicentre of 2019nCoV, it is the late-onset and sudden cytokine storm that kill many patients, not the infection resulted pneumonia. This is how most Spanish flu fatalities died.
Ironically it’s not the virus that kills you, it’s your own immune system going into overload that does the damage.
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The “farang” price is being paid by Thai citizens ... how’d you like them apples Somchai?
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Biologists at the Indian Institute of Technology issued a paper claiming that the virus has “HIV insertions” in it’s makeup that are unlikely to be “fortuitous”. In other words, more by design than luck. Suggesting that it is a virus made in the lab. It’s not peer reviewed and may well be consistent with Bat coronavirus ... and what they are hinting at may be wrong. There is a top level Institute of Virology based in Wuhan. They research, amongst other things, bat coronavirus.
I was puzzled as to as to why doctors would use HIV drugs?
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On 1/27/2020 at 3:50 PM, Sheryl said:
There have been no bona fide reports of anything remotely of the sort.
Rumor mill is in overdrive. Please do not feed it.
What has been proven -- and is no surprise at all as usually the case -- is that there are infected people who are asymptomatic and (less common but hardly unknown) it appears they can transmit the virus without having symptoms themselves.
Asymptomatic people are not keeling over dead nor are the overwhelming majority of symptomatic people. Case fatality rate even among the cases serious enough to be identified and hospitalized is under 5% and these are the more severe subset. The true fatality rate is likely a tenth of that since most cases don't get identified as the person has what seems like no more than a cold and does mot seek medical care.
Most deaths have been in the elderly and people with weakened immune systems as is true of any flu.
But it’s not just “any flu”, as the death rate is significantly higher than an ordinary flu.
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When the flight to the UK with British and Europeans citizens arrived in RAF Brize Norton yesterday I was surprised that none of the bus drivers picking up the passengers were wearing masks?
I think their company were very complacent and negligible in allowing them to drive to Liverpool with those passenger seat on board and no protection.
I don’t blame air crew for refusing to fly to China.
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11. If you see someone with a soft toy at the end of a pole ... run for your life!!
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4 hours ago, adammike said:
N95 is the US standard the EU equivalent is FFP3 as long as the mask meet those standards and they fit properly and you are clean shaven they will help.
I had viral conjunctivitis a few year ago and that turned out to be one of the flu viruses so it can get in via the eyes and a mask won't stop that.
Get hand sanitizer and use it and wash your hands at every opportunity with soap and don't touch your face.
I read an article today on the Guardian app and the journalist stated that N95 is the equivalent of FFP2, and that the FFP3 mask is superior to an N95. The general view was that they are not foolproof but at least stop you from touching you’re mouth and nose.
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1 hour ago, Artisi said:
Did he get this appraisal and recommendations vetted and cleared by our leader - by the way, where is he today - in hiding.
He's off sick ... and that's no joke!
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Meanwhile the foreign boiler room scammers and property fraudsters are allowed to continue with their work. The old dear didn't know where to pay the "tea money" ... if she's making 7.50 GBP per day she's obviously being exploited.
I'd be ashamed to be in a photo like that ... a bunch of sad cases.
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Come back "hansum man" ... China man "no good"!
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1 hour ago, petedk said:Just spoke t my girlfriend about this, to which she replied, "Thailand has it under full control. No new outbreaks for two days."
Why on earth have they stopped releasing official figures?
The head of the military junta has stated that he has it 100% under control, so they won't let the facts contradict that ...
Death toll in China is now reported as 212 ... it was 162 yesterday ... I wonder how many are not counted, or are dead in their homes?
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1 hour ago, Forethat said:I think your post above is despicable. It's not even worth replying to your so called arguments. Lowest I've seen on here for a long time, to be fair.
What's despicable is to understate the seriousness of a worldwide epidemic.
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22 minutes ago, zydeco said:The head of WHO is an Ethiopian politician whose country is bought and paid for by China. This guy Xi's puppet.
He certainly sounds bought and paid for.
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2 minutes ago, Forethat said:A Coronavirus is a family of viruses. There are different types. A majority of people all over the world have been infected by a Coronavirus at least once. Probably several times.
The vast majority of infected people will just have a sniffle (common cold) and 'recover' in a few days. The type in question (2019-nCov) has a tendency to cause an infection that dives a little deeper down in the respiratory tract and cause pneumonia, in particular, when the person suffers from a heart disease, is old or have a weak immune system. But most people will experience symptoms similar to a flu or a cold. A sniffle.It’s a pity you didn’t explain that to the three Chinese people covered in blankets on the floor of a Wuhan hospital ... it would have made them feel reassured just before they collapsed and died.
i don’t believe the numbers coming out of China, this virus is highly contagious and has killed more people than the CCP are letting on.
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The WHO top guy sounded like the head of the Chinese Tourism Board, waxing lyrical about the Chinese authorities. The same authorities that knew about it but allowed 5 million Wuhan residents to spread it across the world.
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Everybody knows that would be impossible, as the PM has got it 100% under control?
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BMW is sporty and in my view more exciting to drive, but I'd prefer the Mercedes as it is a front wheel drive and is more stable. I drove a BMW with low tread at the rear and aquaplaned on a rain sodden motorway ... not a great experience, but a lesson learned.
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1 hour ago, topt said:
Agree
PS - easier to just say calendar year.
As a UK citizen our tax year is 6 April to 5 April, so I thought it better just to spell it out.
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I looked at this a while back. My understanding is that you are not taxed on that dividend as long as it was not transferred to your Thai bank account (or brought into Thailand) on the same Thai tax year it was paid. So if it was paid on a previous tax year you are in the clear.
i believe that the Thai tax year is 1 Jan to 31 Dec. Best check as I am not 100% on that.
To be clear, a dividend paid into a foreign brokerage account on 12 November 2019 is not taxable if transferred to Thai bank account on or after 1 Jan 2020.
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The public might perceive a greater threat due to the greater number of Chang vested foreigners escaping the draconian immigration rules of Thailand. I never felt threatened in PP, but the night life area felt a bit sinister, with a need to keep your wits about you. I recall a nice upmarket street with a few decent cafes, and lots of high end cars, a half decent shopping mall, and people pissing on the street.
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I’d avoid the Far East currently, and certainly wouldn’t wish to be queuing at an airport alongside Chinese passengers. I would imagine that you see a similar scenario at Heathrow, Schipol and JFK .... you won’t see much better until the WHO declares it an international pandemic.
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They’d be better off disinfecting the passengers, and quarantine them until they’ve been checked for infection.
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I’d give Chinese people a wide berth, not be out in the street with them celebrating.
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Two charged for spreading fake coronavirus news
in Thailand News
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The Spanish flu killed around 50 million between 1918 and 1919. The death rate of coronavirus is estimated to be 2-3%, which is slightly higher than Spanish flu. With small numbers infected in Thailand it’s hard to imagine that many could die. But bear in mind that sometime in late November 2019 only one Chinese person had this. This particular virus is highly contagious, and unlike Ebola and SARS it appear s to be transmittable by people who are not showing any symptoms.
In early February 2020 your comment appears sensible, but if this contagion spreads we’ll be in a completely different world.