AlexRich

1 hour ago, robblok said:

That sucks, like you i am not an OAP and been here 15 years came here in my 30ies. I am lucky my business is good might even get better. 

 

I find your comments about blaming others for the lockdown because they are old not really nice. Its not as if they asked for a lockdown. Its just the sensible thing to do don't want people dying as flies. Still something has to be done to open up stuff in future. But so far all the times they opened up stuff it got worse again. 

I do wonder about the logic of worldwide shutdowns that no economy can sustain for more than a few months? When we open up the virus will still be circulating in populations without herd immunity. You inflict enormous economic damage only to open up and start the whole routine once again. 

I think it would have been more sensible to focus on prevention by isolating key risk groups but essentially allowing life and commerce to go on. After a while the virus will have less impact and over time we’ll  have medical solutions that limit it’s impact. 

The world’s approach simply destroys economic life whilst increasing the death numbers, which are spread over a longer time stretch and worsened by the devastating economic impact. 

I’m on an island in the eastern Mediterranean, in lockdown like everyone else. I’m spending much less than usual and I budget twelve months in advance, with contingency, so I’m okay to ride this out. I feel bad for people who own businesses and those that have jobs that are vulnerable ... we are heading for a very difficult year or two. 

Cock spice?

2 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I have not often aired this childhood confession. A boy, Christopher Smith, a grade or so above me, lived on my street growing up. He got some sort of cancer, his leg was amputated so he had a prosthesis. We went down a stream, deep inside some woods, and he couldn't keep up with me.

 

I left him behind to find his own way home. I regret it to this day, some 60 years later. He died when we were in high school. Miss you, Chris.

Yeah, the found him dead at a stream, you heartless bar steward!

He attacked a smaller kid with no arms and no means to defend himself. And he did it without a few mates to help him out?
 

i think you are all being a bit hard on the lad ... he’s one of the brave and fearless ones.

Is he simply meaning don’t invite anyone to your home during lockdown? But if you are at home it’s okay to have a beer?

33 minutes ago, moose7117 said:

HUH ?

me no unerstan ?

That’s because you never got a “post 16 education”?

I hope you are not the original “Captain Save-A-Ho”, Captain Monday? 

The internet is the only "free ride" you'll get in Thailand. 

Many women collude in the activities of monsters like Weinstein, for their own benefit, and to the detriment of other females who they call to arrange “meetings” in his hotel room. And some who attend such meetings do so complicitly, a quid pro quo, so to speak. There are genuine victims of course, but some of his victims were complicit. A harsh statement to make, but no less true for that.

The problem for the leadership is the lack of support for ordinary Thais, and if people begin starving they will take to the streets ... I can’t see a lockdown lasting long in Thailand.

I’m not in any particular camp, I just don’t want to get it, although I suspect that the vast majority will as this will circulate for years to come. 

I wonder how long Carrie will last? Johnson has a poor track record on infidelity ... Mia Noi Ahoy!

2 hours ago, Yme said:

Except there is absolutely no evidence at all that immunity is acquired following exposure. The "herd immunity" theory is a load of <deleted> when it comes to coronaviruses. There is increasing evidence though that reemergence can occur. Open up and within a year the whole workforce will be dead and the medical system collapsed. The state needs to directly give cash to people and organise for food kitchens everywhere until it reorganises its economy. That realisation will increasingly occur. But open the economy? Only when *you* are going to go and stand on the assembly line or process line with the rest of the workers.

 

And the "wait until there is a vaccine" theory is pretty dumb, given that we do not have a vaccine for any coronavirus that has ever transmitted to humans. The fact that people have had the virus before will strengthen defences against any re-infection.

The 1918 pandemic affected younger adults between 18-35 years the most. The theory was that the first flu that a person experiences in their life provides a strengthened immunity to a re-infection ... the 1918 flu was similar (but not exact) to a flu that circulated around when older people were young, so when the pandemic hit in 1918 their bodies were more capable of dealing with it. The younger people below 18 had weaker, less developed immune responses that prevented a cytokine storm (where the immune system attacks the body). So the main victims were 18-35 year olds. 

My point is that even if people are re-infected they are likely more able to deal with it.

2 hours ago, renz said:

if it is true from WHO person infected does not have immunity from coronavirus so it is better to have restrictions than whole country infected as there is so much we don't know about this disease

 

During the 1918 pandemic there where three waves, the second one being the most deadliest. But interestingly what they found is that those who had it before either didn't get it again or dealt with it much better ... so even if you don't have full immunity you are more likely to get over it without too much trouble.

The problem is that we do not have vaccines for any of the existing known coronaviruses, so I think its foolish to expect that we'll find one soon for SARS-COV-2. The "isolate until a vaccine is ready" approach may fail badly and leave the world in economic poverty.

I very much doubt they’ll be seeing too many tourists after this is all done, with higher flight costs and anxiety with crowding I suspect many will be seeking vacations nearer to home.