Hanaguma

So, good for Zelensky, he won the battle of memes, eh? The only problem is, he 'won' at the expense of his country and his people. He values his pride over his duty. And, you really think Europe can step up to the plate without the backing of Uncle Sugar? They are great at talking and sending memos, but not so good at paying the bills.

First, Churchill was entitled to wear a uniform. He was a veteran. Second, Zelensky is not wearing a uniform. He is not a veteran. Third, Zelensky is just cosplaying at being a soldier. Fourth, Zelensky is the supplicant in the situation. He needs to walk small and talk smaller.

Uh, yeah, I know. That has been discussed. It merely proves that Z can, IF he wants to, dress appropriately to meet important people. Especially people that he is begging from.

To repeat... yes, Churchill wore a siren suit at times during the war. But he didnt wear it when meeting Stalin or Roosevelt in formal settings, did he? He was couth enough to dress for the occasion.

...and if the price of straightening out Trump and Vance is more war and more Ukranians dying, so what. At least Zelensky could look tough for his fanboys in Europe. NOT a great attitude for the leader of a country desperate for assistance.

Nice deflection attempt. Arabs wearing traditional, cultural garb is nothing like the faux warrior chic affectation that Zelensky presents. Next you will be bringing up PM Mohdi of India when he wears a Modi Kurta... And Trump to my knowledge never wears a ball cap when meeting world leaders in formal settings.

...so to you, the appropriate response by Zelensky was to fight with his host in front of the media, in his host's office? In what universe would that have any positive effect? Might be good for the feels, and make him look like a tough guy in front of his Euro friends, but would be a disaster for his country. Good to see at least that Zelensky has made his priorities so apparent.

That old chestnut.

Wow, it's been a long time since I saw "b-b-but Trump!" here. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

I know enough about international negotiations that you do NOT ever negotiate in front of the press. An agreement he could have signed in Munich more than a week ago. Grandstanding in front of the press while trying to get money from your donor is foolish. Zelensky is not the man in charge. He wants something from the US. Fine. Act like it. Say, "we have an agreement, thank you for your generosity, we will have a strong partnership going forward, what's for lunch?". He is far too cocky for someone in his desperate position.

1. dressing disrespectfully 2. not referring to the VP by his title 3. raising his voice in the Oval Office 4. refusing to sign the mining agreement without a trip to Washington 5. talking over the President 6. possibly costing his country a great agreement 7. letting his ego get in the way of doing business Basically, Zelensky cannot both go hat in hand to beg the USA for support and also be arrogant.

Churchill when sitting with the President at an important meeting.

Really? I am honestly a bit stunned at your oversimplification. Churchill dressed as the situation demanded. Zelinsky does not. Constantly uploading a picture of Churchill wearing something other than a formal suit is actually rather funny. Not to mention the constant harping on Putin, who is not the subject of the discussion at all. Yet he, like Trump, seems to occupy a large part of the space between your ears.

Ah yes, the ad hom attack yet again, in the absence of substance. Comparing Z to Churchill is wonderfully ridiculous. Unlike Churchill, who actually dressed suitably for important meetings.

'Leadership in crisis' would involve signing the damn deal that would help his country. NOT getting into public arguments with his most important benefactor. Shows he values pride and image over substance.

Why? Because the media narrative as usual got the situation wrong. And I am tiring of his arrogance and sense of entitlement. It would have taken so little for Zelensky, as the supplicant, to win the day for his country. But his pride got in the way. And his cosplay act is getting tiring. As for the tired old 'bone spurs' dig, we can rehash all the previous politicians who dodged service in Vietnam if you wish. But to what purpose? The only actual military veteran in the conversation was JD Vance.

Ah yes. The ad hom attack in place of any useful reply. Not surprising.

Really, that the best you got?

Probably the best the little comedian could come up with is a weak pimp slap.

Nice try. First, Churchill was a military veteran, Zelensky is not. Second, this unknown photo was NOT taken at a formal meeting between heads of state. For those, Churchill dressed appropriately. Third, this was NOT Churchill's dailly attire. Zelensky seems enamored with appearing like a tough guy.

I would like to know what is false about it. Other than the false notion that Zelensky is always too busy to dress appropriately.

No, but he DID go through recruit training (which includes hand to hand combat and weapons skills) before moving on to his particular specialty. More than could be said for the cosplay guy. I'm not the one posting pathetic fantasy memes.

You seriously comparing Zelensky to.... Churchill? Must be in the same yoga class as BKKevin. Churchill, as I recall, wore suits to his meetings with Stalin and Roosevelt. Also, as I recall, Churchill was an actual military veteran.

You must do a lot of yoga to streeeeeeetch like that.

Well, you have to decide which Zelensky is. According to Mama Beeb, he is still willing to sign the mining deal with the US. I have a feeling that some of Zelensky's more clever advisors got in his ear during the trans-Atlantic flight and basically told him that he screwed the pooch. Meeting Starmer was lovely, but our Piers only promised him 1% of the aid that the US could give.