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2 hours ago, mrmicbkktxl said:

Eliminated because they didn't know what consequences a Brexit will have

And we still don't "know" - we only have biased 'opinions' and biased 'forecasts'.

It's impossible to know unless it actually happens.

6 hours ago, SheungWan said:

The one big lie is the Hard Brexiteer one that the referendum result = no-deal and nothing else.

Not true at all.

I agree that EVERYONE thought that trade deals would be at the top of the negotiating agenda, and as 'no deal' would be bad for both sides - they would actually negotiate sensibly!

They didn't (for some obscure reason ???? ).  Instead, the uk side just agreed with the eu agenda whilst pontificating about "no deal better than a bad deal" etc. etc.

And we were 'fooled again' into doing our best to believe this rhetoric......

3 hours ago, Spidey said:

No. I mentioned it in the post you replied to. It was the main focus of my post.

 

So, if you don't like May's deal, I presume that you are happy with Bercow's decision to not allow any more votes on May's deal.

 

So, May's deal off the table, the EU refuses any more negotiations, what does that leave you with? A no deal Brexit, which has already been voted down and no sane person wants.

 

Nothing left on the table for Brexiteers, not looking good. The only thing that will save you from 2 more years of my posts, and I can understand that someone applying common sense to your fanciful ramblings would give you a headache, is to have a second referendum or revoke Article 50. Hobson's choice for Brexit ostriches. What is your preference?

"So, if you don't like May's deal, I presume that you are happy with Bercow's decision to not allow any more votes on May's deal."

Obviously I can't speak for Vogie - but personally yes, I am very happy with bercow's decision ????.  Both uk and eu politicians are left in a position where they will prove that they are only interested in BRINO or remain - certainly not leave!

2 hours ago, Spidey said:

Not if May get's her extension, which she will.

Sadly, I agree.

But to look on the bright side, this will prove that both brit. and eu politicians are determined that the uk will not leave.

You may think that those voting for leave in the electorate will be happy with this - but I'm not convinced!

6 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

There is no evidence that there are more anti EU people, only that millions of Brexit voters have died and millions more are now old enough to vote and are predominantly Remain supporters.  If you have some evidence that there are more anti-EU people today then present it.

Only that uk MPs who are overwhelmingly remain supporters, are not keen on another referendum 'at the moment'.

Make of that what you will ????.

And as a result of your post going on about "millions of Brexit voters have died" (????) - I've no choice other than to (belatedly) 'like' LG's post.

5 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

got your ticket booked back home then to join the Peasant's Revolt....

 

Pretty much says it all, that you consider the poorest/those with a different opinion, as peasants.....

29 minutes ago, sungod said:

Given his wife is called Sally, and either he or she owns a car with the personalised plate 'S88 LYY' my money is on the fact the 4 X 4 with the bollx to Brexit sticker is his, but as you quite rightly say, we cant be sure- it may be purely circumstantial.

It doesn't matter, as he is quite happy driving it.

Edit - obviously I can't speak for anyone else, but my previous husband and I largely shared the same political views.

If (which he never would) have put a 'I support hunting' sticker on either car, I'd have ripped it off immediately before driving the car.

Someone in bercow's position would or should, be even more 'sensitive' about driving a car with such logos - unless of course, he agreed with it.....

Whilst I've little doubt that Piers Morgan is far from a 'nice' person - blair is even less so....

With a bit of luck he'll tear blair apart.  Not that it will make any difference, as blair still thinks he's popular amongst the electorate ????.

1 hour ago, mercman24 said:

weak weak weak this Treason May has been pissing about for best part of 3 years, now she wants an extension, worst prime minister in our history,

I was about to agree - and then remembered blair.....

13 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Force revocation of A50

I doubt MPs will be stupid enough to do this, as it will prove beyond any doubt their duplicity.

I know you think the electorate have changed their mind since the referendum - but (like MPs....), I'm not at all convinced this is the case and suspect that they're not quite stupid enough to revoke article 50.

If they did so, more than a few MPs would lose their seats at the next GE IMO.

I'm obviously still missing something here ☹️.  Surely leavers should be happy at Bercow's decision?

It leaves both uk MPs and the eu in a very difficult position - where they're all going to have to make clear their intentions?

10 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Bercow had to follow the rules. There are too many eyes on this one for his usual bias. He’s saved May from a third surrender humiliation, but could have shot himself in his Remainer foot.
Much now depends on the EU unanimity for an extension vote on Thursday. That’s not guaranteed.


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It will be very interesting to see whether the eu agree to allow the uk an extension in view of this latest blow to the eu/may 'deal' - bearing in mind they've said many times that their 'deal' cannot be changed.

Leaving with no deal will hurt them as much as it hurts us IMO - so why would they allow an extension now that Bercow has ruled that it cannot be voted on (yet again....) in Parliament?

Rhetorical question obviously ????.

1 hour ago, vogie said:

John Bercow knows the rules, but he only uses them for his own agenda. He is an europhile with 'blox to brexit' on his car. The speaker should remain impartial, but he is anything but. In his defence he knows many big words, so may be better suited chairing 'The Good Old Days'

I agree, which is why I was suprised to hear that he'd put his foot down re. a third vote - especially as it appeared as if more MPs were prepared to vote for her deal next time round?

As posted by Basil B - "I suppose we will have to wait many years before a top civil servant/government advise sheds some light on this in their memoirs".